Scamp I would take each girl at her individual Merit...

Some girls are mature beyond their years others not so. I have dated some 18 year olds who are well educated, open-minded and have a sense of self and humour but also others who are insecure and image-conscious.

I guess personally for me I would assume a girl in a bar or club is over 18, if they are not it will become apparent within the first few minutes of conversation.

Then if you are attracted to the girl go for it...

Some 18 year olds are more mature & grown up than others.

Some 18 year olds look the part, but act like a child (not literaly)

ALL of them dress up so they look older (nothing wrong with this of course, if they are over 18)

Unfortunately in my town, the bouncers must be demented sex pests who like to ogle young girls all night & then go home & wank over thier fat sleeping wifes.

I'll give an example of how a certain conversation between me & a sexy little brunnette on a night out in my town went:

(We had already been talking & flirting for ages & then)

Her: what age are you?

Me: 24, what about you?

Her: 14

Me: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....i need to go see my mate, i'll be back in 5 minutes (or something like that)


I was fucking shocked to the core that this girl was in front of me looking so good & i wouldnt have known any different if she hadnt told me her age!

Obviously i disappeared & looked elsewhere but, if me or anyone else had got off with a chick so young without knowing her age, when she SHOULDENT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED in the place by the bouncers, who the fuck is to blame?

Obviously courts would annialate you & you would probably end up registered, but in the cold light of day....if the bouncers wouldnt let little girls in who smile & wink & flash thier legs at them, lads wouldnt find themselves in these situations.

I notice this everywhere, i believe it happens in EVERY town, doormen let young girls in cos they smell sweet & have pink sparkly hotpants on.


I dont care im fucking leaving this town anyway

Dan you can tell if a girl is under 18 when you talk to her, you dont need to ID them.

Yeah there is the odd exception but as you can tell it comes out within conversation.

Why get upset yourself for walking over there, she obviously dressed to deceive people. People are offended with magic tricks, that are designed to deceive so you shouldn't worry about talking to her.

lol...
I was out the weekend just gone with 18 year old girls who looked older than 18 and got ID'd in certain clubs.. so not everywhere is like it.. the more up market places are more strict

I personally don't even bother asking their age, if I think their over 18 and they look and act over 18 it'll do for me.. guess my viewpoint would change if I woke up next to a 14 year old though.. but I don't think I'm idiot enough to make that mistake

Yeah but we're allowed to make a "mistake" every now and then...

I agree Alpha, it definitely depends on the standard of girl you are looking for and opening, I know I don't just judge quality on looks, if their personality is rats then I'll eject regardless

What bothers me is the sleazy bouncers in some places, who will ask for ID off lads who are clearly around the 25 mark, but will nod the little kids in cos they are all dolled up & wearing skimpy outfits.

But sometimes bouncers ask for ID simply to suss you out & get your name etc.

Don't let it bother you mate
Its irrelevant
Just go for the ones who look abit older if your unsure on the age thresholds

Yeah, your right i shouldnt be bothered about it.

& from now on i wont be.

Yep, as long as you fancy her and she's over 16, its all fine. I'm 38 and my girlfiends 21. Makes no difference.

Divide your age by 2 then add 7.
23 should be your minimum