I am thinking of trying a pua bootcamp. I was wondering if any of you guys have been to any bootcamps in the London area and if so did you find them useful for your game or just a waste of money and time?

Yea, me too

Dj.fugi said that u should take the training as it knocks 6 to 12 months off ur learning curve

Im thinking of doing it too, nothing to lose (exept the money)

How much do the weekends cost?

How much does the platinum residential cost??

dan. you got a girl pregnant. you hardly need a bootcamp to defeat a fear of approaching women no?

afcsarger.. why waste your money? Talk to the guys on this forum, read some books, watch some free online videos, and go out and experience it for yourself, for free.
Change job if you must..

Ur right, but i just thought that bootcamps mite give u a further push in the right direction to being able to eventually declare urself a proper PUA??

Makes sense, altough i wouldnt have just jumped into it without really knowing where i stand, im just toying with the idea

If i had money to burn id probably do it anyway

Ok ok hold up..

Bootcamps are for newbies, if you've read anything other than The Game you do not need one.

Speak from experience of having taught a few, you get all the basic level knowledge crammed into you in the first 5 hours alongside up to 20 other people by 1 or (if you're lucky) 2 instructors, admittedly some companies have got better at the ratio now, limiting course numbers.

You're then taken out for the evening, where you'll be told to approach x girl, made to sweat a lot and, if you're lucky, see an instructor pull. To answer the obvious question here, there are companies that use actors here, though not all the time.

Day 2, debrief during morning, discuss problems. Afternoon, repeat in shopping centre. Debrief afterwards. Repeat Day 1 evening.

Day 3. Debrief. Inner game. Goodbye.

During the amount of time you have there is zero chance of taking on board information, you're under extreme stress and pressure during the nights/days out. You gain nothing overall.

If you don't already have a sound understanding of the very basic things out there then they might help you. Do not however expect any changes as a result of it. 3 days is not enough to enact change within a person, that takes weeks and months. This is why my courses cover 10 weeks.

So, if you're new and have £400-500 in disposable income and want those basics fast then sure thing. Personally I'd recommend just meeting up with other guys here though. There's less stress involved and you get it for free, not to mention you make some new friends.

Alternatively, if you're the kind of person that wants the security of knowing you're paying someone for their help and the support you get from that then find a company that offers long term courses. I'm not the only one doing this now.

Just don't throw away your money before you fully understand what you're getting. Always.

A waste of money then.

I was thinking so too, 3 days is hardly gunna magically make u into a superstud & have women falling at ur feet.

I personally will have greater satisfaction knowing i did it from scratch & by myself.....although i mite tell a close mate or someone that i can trust cos im gunna need a wingman at some stage.

See if you can find some experienced chaps in your area too, don't just go out with a friend. With someone that's been into things for a while you get far better feedback on what you're doing and your confidence is higher. With people that have no experience it's far too easy to stand in the corner of a room looking around together, making excuses and doing nothing.

None of my friends know about pick up though, & i have came very close to telling one or two of them when i had a bit too much to drink, but thankfully i held it back, not because i dont trust them, but because i like the fact that its only me who knows about it around here,& i just dont want it getting avout & every dickhead jumping on this really cool wagon.

They all know im up to something, & i have told people im learning something really cool, some of them are just DYING to find out what it is.

I wont be bringing just anyone in on this, & will think very carefully about them before i do.