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Refl3x · 01-07-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RLAJay

If you are aware that, by withholding the information, you are deliberately fostering a misconception in the other person's mind, then it is just as bad as a lie. It is a form of deception, designed to hide, or manipulate, or circumvent the truth.

It performs the same function as a lie and is therefore equally as bad.

Jay

firstly with this i would have not told a lie in any way shape or form - it is in fact the truth.
secondly girls are NOT stupid often they will still put the facts together and think if you say 'i am out with a pal' you are with a girl but they will LIE to themselves and accept it.

I was out with a hot blonde last night in Leeds, my *new* rules are with girls--exactly what i told her - i do not have sex on a first date as it ruins potential relationships.
she totally agreed with me and said Nooo we are definately not having sex
30 minutes later we are in a busy bar and she is fucking all over me like a rash, porno eyes, kissing my neck, hand half down my pants and other hand playing with my nipples

im stood there purposely hardly touching her, taking deep breaths trying to control myself.

guess what? -- we nailed each other back at hers later on. (a few times)

we both told ourselves lies and it facilitated us actually fucking.

there is a point somwhere to this...

Zed · 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Refl3x

we both told ourselves lies and it facilitated us actually fucking.

there is a point somwhere to this...

This kind of lying, I think they call flirting

You can lie verbally.

Your sub-communications will say what you are really saying.

Its about WHY you are saying what you are saying, not WHAT you are saying.

Think about this:

She asked: Hey, what are you up to x
She sub-communicated: I'm curious about you, I'm interested, I want to talk to you

You said: ARRRITE! I'm at skeggy wid my mate Katrina, we iz havin it LARGE x
You sub-communicated: I'm seeing another girl

01-07-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zed

This kind of lying, I think they call flirting

You can lie verbally.

Your sub-communications will say what you are really saying.

Its about WHY you are saying what you are saying, not WHAT you are saying.

Think about this:

She asked: Hey, what are you up to x
She sub-communicated: I'm curious about you, I'm interested, I want to talk to you

You said: ARRRITE! I'm at skeggy wid my mate Katrina, we iz havin it LARGE x
You sub-communicated: I'm seeing another girl

Thankyou Zed.. I see where I went wrong now..

Refl3x · 01-07-2011, 10:18 AM

ive learned through Hypnotherapy that we are driven by our subconscious mind, whenever there is a conflict between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, the subconscious wins
subconcisouly we wanted to nail the shit out of each other-- consciously we were not going to do it that night.

02-07-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by camarda

the way i see it, you didn't feel much for this bird who has blown you out anyway.

so why are you bothered? the fact that you are worried she has blown you out is not the fact of not seeing the girl, but a self-preservation act, is this the real reason why you posted this thread?

I don't feel much for her.. its funny cos I was out with friends last night and Jess was there, and she was with another lad she's fucking.. funny how the world works..

I'm not bothered or worried about being blown out, I just didn't understand WHY she lost interest, but I think I do now..

sapphire · 02-07-2011, 11:10 AM

I think a few of you need a good slapping to snap you out of this "always tell the full truth".

Here's the thing girls minds inhabit a universe of hints, indirect meanings, beneficial self delusions, and white lies.

If your too directly and fully truthful then you not communicating with her in way she can relate to.

Take a lesson from reflex. He played in masterfully. Did he say "i'm going to pretend that I'm not bothered about sex tonight in order to present you with a challenge and make you chase me, which paradoxically increases my chances of getting it", no, he played a role and she went along with it. Ditto for his line about being with a "mate" when he was shagging someone else. And then there was that guys field report recently where she called him to say "can I come to you place to call a cab" even though they both knew it was for a shag.

She wants you to lie to her, she want you tell her your not shagging other people even though you both know you are, she needs you to tell her shes comming over to your place to "watch a movie" even though you both know its for a shag etc etc ... get the fuck over this truth thing

sapphire · 02-07-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

But men are different.

Peace,

kowalski

Your point being .... ?

Phil · 02-07-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sapphire

she needs you to tell her shes comming over to your place to "watch a movie" even though you both know its for a shag etc etc ... get the fuck over this truth thing

no she doesnt.

AJay · 02-07-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by al_phaD

Heres my situation:

I fucked Jess couple years ago.. Then I got a girlfriend, we didn't talk much, and now I'm single and so is Jess, we've been out for lunch a couple times and had a good chat. I made Jess aware I want to be single, and this did not seem to be an issue, she was all up for meeting me again (And I don't think she means just as friends cos we flirt as well etc).

All seemed to be going well, she was guna come "watch a movie" at mine one night, until THIS WEEKEND JUST GONE. I was at Skegness with another girl katrina. Jess asked what I'm doing, so I told her who I was with. She was asking me stuff if "me and katrina are seeing each other" and stuff like that, to which I replied, no, we're just friends and fancied a drive to Skeg. Which is true.

Since telling her I was with another girl, Jess has backed off and backed off. Her texts are shorter, she's not flirty, and when she tells me her free days, she always comes up with an excuse not to see me. Todays was "I'm going to the gym".

Now, I don't care about not seeing her, I'll just meet someone else. But I just don't understand WHY she has backed off just cos I was with another girl. Why is she no longer interested, Why is she not responding to flirting, why is she making excuses not to see me? I want to know if I've done something wrong so I don't push other girls away too.

You did something she didnt like and now she's punishing you to show how intrested she is. Its more than likely this pissed her off and now shes affraid to get closer to you incase she doesnt get whatt she wants. Not that she logically thought "oh im going to distance myself from him now", but just acted on her emotion. This behavouir shows she obviously felt a stronger connection than you did. SHE LOVES YOU!

AJay