And would the world stop turning if he was? would it matter if he was and he did?, would he go home and cry about it?
would a starving orphan in Africa die because of this?

Its not for you or i to Judge, its his life and he will judge himself

Perhaps if Phil wants to f*ck girls that aren't 'horrible', he might consider means testing them a little more past the she's fit and she know's it stage.

It's for you and I to judge all we want actually. I'm perfectly within my right to decide whether someone else is a dick or not. As of yet I haven't judged either way and have left it open because nothing is conclusive and things change when they give their own interpretations. To say that it's not for anyone to judge is wrong though.

We can all judge however we want and in fact we SHOULD. Without the social pressure of moral rights and wrongs we'd all still be killing each other for whatever we wanted or needed.

yeah but without truly knowing somone its easy to make fly comments about people and once you get to know them realise there is a good person in there and a completely different base reason for how they acted --that statments nothing to do with phil btw

we all do stuff that im sure seems just now but in 10 years and somtimes even in a week down the line we think OMG what a tit i was-- i do anyway, im sure you will look back in 10 years at some of your ideals and think what a douche

why am i assed about a girls personality if i just wanna fuck her???

i think some of the guys here (you included) pretend to make all these moral tick boxes in order to justify why ur not gettin as much fit pussy as you would like

coz lets get it right, uber fit women are cunts to bad lookin men unless they are in their social circle

I think that's just you trying to find reasoning for a mindset that you don't have and don't want to believe people have.

Immoral people tend to try and believe that everyone around them is just like them but pretending not to be. It helps them justify their actions as socially acceptable. Everyone would be dicks if they just stopped pretending.

Another sweeping generalisation. Not true.

i know people dont have this mindset, i believe people buy into their own shit... but EVERYONE has their price!!


who is the judge of morality??? you??? dont think so... i dont think my actions wer justified, i probably should have not shagged her, but then again she probably shouldnt have come back...

people are out for themsleves.. and unless it in some way or form benfits them

they wont do it.

No Phil. Everyone doesn't have their price. If this were the case it would be possible for somebody to get anyone. It's not.

Right and wrong are right and wrong. Morality is objective.

Pointing out that she did something wrong doesn't justify doing something wrong yourself, it's just deferring from the point. She's a stupid horrible person, I agree. I would have thought you'd have better standards than to be sleeping with people who you think are horrible though Phil.

Not going to argue this, that doesn't mean that what they do is also immoral or doesn't benefit others though so I'm not sure why you're saying it as a part of your argument.

Is it just me or has anyone else wanted to fuck somone that annoys them but is sexually attractive from a lustful point of view-- maybe cum and them slapped them across the face.
Probably coming from a power dominerring point of view

I think you lot from the moralistic argument side have forgotten that phil decided to fuck her and she told him in the cab. Now forgive me if I'm wrong but that means that to change his original decision would be very difficult because once a decision is made the brain avoids changing that decision to save energy and time. hence why even when shown proof of being wrong peeps remain in cults.

It's kind of funny cos it seems me and jay are like exact opposites. I became less moralistic and judgemental over time and he's became more.