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Mystery came up with a good one.

Stoke her up with some txt/chat flirting (mucho importanto) and then tell her what you're doing i.e going town to buy some sports gear or whatever (calibrate to her) and ask if she wants to come along. If she's stoked, it's fun and interesting just to be with you.

Yes? Aw yeah girl, do your thing together and take her some place after.

No? S'aight, you're doing something anyways.

Just means you're not left holding the invite if she's making excuses.

Game On.

LOL golden. In my opinion making sure you’re comfortable where ever the meet is important so choose a place you accustomed to.

Adam , i really hope you mean you already met her in a club , she gave you her name , you facebooked her and THEN got her number . Obviously you didn't just add her on facebook and get her number over the internet ryte , nah you wouldn't do that especially from all the times you've posted and the posts you've read . If it is a facebook over the net pull , your going to have to build more comfort than usual before arranging a date and make the place public and something in the open as this will make her more likely to accept

I do not agree with K on this one.

IMO, I think that the guy needs to spend some time with her to build that connection and attraction. If he makes it obvious what he is after then it could frighten his prey away.

By luring the chick in he has the opportunity to control her emotions right into the bedroom. by taking her onto an emotional roller coaster she will WANT to f -close and he will be in driving seat.

If the attraction is not yet there then ending this by no making a "date" or seeing her again, kills a potential opportunity.

What do others think of this?

Personally, I don't think there is right or wrong on this issue. I must admit that the last two girls I slept this month are girls I communicate via texts and emails over a period of two months, this allowed the attractions to be built and for the girls to be comfortable with me. They are what I call a back burner. But from the very beginning, I make my Statements of Intentions (SOIs) clear. And on both occassions, it was evening Day-1 dates and I made it clear that they could stay at mine after. I think they got the message ;-)

I have quite a few back burners to fill my needs until I achieve an f-close in one night. I like to be in the same shoes like some of the guys in this forum but my journey is progressing slowly. Small baby steps!!

And Im reading loads at the moment. Gunwitch method caught my attention. That guy is awesome. And I heard a lot about "The Power of Now - Eckhart Tolle". Just downloaded the audio and pdf book this morning. Cant wait to start reading it tonight. Doing sessions with an Alexander Technique Instructor (Thanks K) to improve with my posture, body language and subsequently build my confidence. So onwards and upwards...!

Much Success!!

Interesting thoughts K. I think that we are broadly in agreement.

I would also like to play the game that you play but I must admit that I am no good at it.

Like most AFCs I played the nice guy game and got a few crumbs.

Recently, I have upped my game a bit but I still play a different game from you. A conversion rate of numbers to lays of 80% is impressive, very impressive. However, as you say yourself you are probably allowing some opportunities to slip away. That is not necessarily a bad thing, after all there are only 24 hours in the day and 7 days a week and we have a lot of other stuff to do in this time as well as getting lays. So if a few fish get away then as long as you are not going hungry then it really is their loss not yours.

I think your advice is spot on for night game in the environment you mentioned. Day game has some common elements to night game but it is a very different game. For one there is the issue of logistics.

I tend to start with day game and then move on into the night time situation for the f -close.

I would still stick by my earlier advice to the OP.

btw what are booty calls?

booty call - cool.

I forgot to mention in my last post that I actually love all this structure and strategy to gaming. I mean, for me, it is not just about the lays. I love the strategy, the theory, the analysis etc etc. It really gets my pulse racing learning about all this stuff and the pot of gold at the end are the lays which do happen.

I love being able to control myself when there are such juicy carrots dangled in front of me. One of the things I wanted to conquer with game was my own emotions. I want to be able to control the excitement and the thrill of getting laid and be able to switch it on and off at MY will and not be at the whim of HB 9s & HB 10s.

Ok whilst the end result is an f-close I love everything that leads up to the f-close from opening onwards. Football is about scoring goals but a game with just penalties is boring!

There are times though I wish I had a harem and had it on tap....

Hey guys,

I have a Nice problem now, so i'm in a completly new world which i havent done any reading about at all, actually have a number and we've texted just a couple of times, just playful shit. Is there any good books / video's to help break down what's a good progression for texting and then onto phone call for a meet up???

cheers

Retro

I can already tell you're a hero