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Undercat · **How to teach? -** 09-10-2010, 11:51 AM

My new housemate thinks I can teach him how to do it. Can it be taught? If so, how?

Phenom · 09-10-2010, 11:59 AM

Teach what?? Im guessing you mean PU

In that case, how did you learn it? Im sure however you learnt will be fairly transferrable to how your friend can learn.

Just remember that field experience is worth more than any ebook, cd, video ever will be. Also PU (for me at least) isnt about WHAT to do but more about WHAT NOT to do. Educate him on the behaviours and mindsets that have prevented him getting laid and the rest should take care of itself.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 12:06 PM

Hoping for answers from people who have done this. I know there are professional teachers out there, wondering if there are any on this site.

I don't really remember how I 'learned'. I think it was when I was 'just friends' with girls as a teenager. Very hard to seperate te value of practical intuition from the technical jargon I've been exposed to since. I'm usually of the school that experience and mindset is everything, but you can't experience things for someone else or change their mindset for them.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 01:00 PM

He does approach girls, it's just so pathetically doomed to failiure. Example: hello ladies, may I just say you have amazing legs. I'm sure some of you could pull this off; he can't. I'm thinking he needs to fix his inner game first. I don't think you can effectively include women in your life unless you're content without them. I know what works for me in that case, but that is working to my strengths, and he needs to work to his.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

in his own eyes, he will have a view of his own value. this will indicate whether or not he will find the interaction easy or not. and also it co-incides with what he feels the other persons value is. the other person is doing the same. so we have 4 mind made entities operating in a communication.

it is always easier if the other person views you as a person with value. and it is always helpful if you view yourself as a person with value.

you arent going to get a guy who thinks he has no value, pulling a girl who knows she has high value, and knows that you have no value.

This is exactly the issue. How do you teach a person to value themselves? There is a danger of taking it too far here as well. Some people get addicted to their own imaginary high value and become, for want of a better word, dicks.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 01:12 PM

Completely agree. And it is easy for guys like us who get women to say that. I do remember how lonely I got though, and to someone who doesn't understand, it can be confusing to be told that they have to care less.

Hrmm.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

with me, my whole 'imrpovement life' came from a massive sense of lack. it may still do, as i still go to the gym, play sports what not, am i doing it for the right reasons? dunno, i do love it

if someone doesn't mind lacking, being out of shape or what not, i dunno. i need more time thinking really, but i dont have much experience in this specific topic.

Yeah. I think Taking him to the gym with me will be part of it. He just sees me succeeding and wonders why it is that he can't do it. He needs to understand that it to a lot of work to get where I am, and it takes a lot of work to keep moving forward.

Undercat · 09-10-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

change us to you then that statement is more correct. my women situation could be classed as lacking to any aspiring 'womanizer'.

has he said hes lonely?

All the time. He has every issue in the book.

He is my new housemate so his behaviour is an issue for me as well. Not that there's anything wrong with not being a pick up master, but I have to hear him tell me all about his frustrations with women. Seems to me that it would be best to try and help somehow.