Evening all,

I am pretty new to this PUA community scene and just found this website tonight. I am currently half way through reading "the game". Just a few general qustions i though i might throw your way. Im very intrigued about "the game" and interested in learning "PUA Meterial" etc, and although the book makes a brilliant read (hey im not doubting this stuff as im sure these guys are masters) but I feel very skeptical about how a lot of these "openers" and "negs" and quite frankly how a lot of the verbal material used works in modern day england so to speak? Im sure in America this stuff works and maybe not so cheesy to use, but being in a bar in london imagine , and negging a woman or approcahing a mixed 3 or 4 set, i could just imagine there being different results? To be honest im thinking violence or maybe not as bad, but where I am from this material would seem not very effective on many "arrogant" women. If anyone has or knows any good books / dvds / etc on the best openers and material used in this country and culture, please advise

Thanks ;-)

Ill wait untill u finished reading until i slate style .... mystery method good start point... dont get suckered into the whole I GET EVERY GIRL I APPROACH DEAL coz they dont... they say it to sound good... TRUST ME NOBODY ON THE PLANET SCORES 100% except me it dont happen mate so dont worry about rejection

its not a majic wand it just helps ALOT... but its not about the MAGIC WORDS AND ROUTINES that ur made to beleive thats for sales... Keep a level head...

know that its not magic and dont get sold products

U need help u can most likely find NON SALES info from the guys on here FREE OF CHARGE

Have fun newbie

Download magic bullets, explains the whole thing alot better.

MM is good to learn, but your better off creating your own openers, and using the less cheesy material.

Opinion opener i created and used
Would you dump a guy that got very tight with his money, then i followed it up with a funny example.

Using good body language,being none threatening when cold approaching is golden,

Approaching groups of people and teasing attractive girls is not going to get you into too much trouble in a bar really.

Depends how you approach.

And i wouldnt bother with mixed sets, just no need.

I realise it all seems very strange to be even considering stepping outside your reality now, after all you have been doing what you've been doing all your life. It's time to start thinking about experimenting a bit however, that's if u want to change things in your life? Start taking risks and not ruling out stuff until you have tried it. Like phil says, stick around here and hear what people have to say. It's free, unlike the products!

Alot of the products are free, if you no where to look.

Sure, but our advice is better :-)

Learn from both, and see what gets results.

taking risks and experimenting is good advice but abit vague.

I'm telling him to do just that. Experiment with it all. It is vague, but that's the nature of the beast when you're starting out. If you want me to be specific then quit messing about and get on with Tyler Durden's Blueprint instead of endless reels of openers that 'work' or 'don't work'.