Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

That can be done by anyone. Confidence is the key. The more you step out of your initial comfort zone, the more experience you will have and more confident you'll become.

You dont need to be 'that guy' - that guy who dictates the night club, that guy who has an abundance of girls, etc.. The first point of call is to be realistic; you haven't got a genie friend who can change you to be exactly 'that guy' so theres no point in setting an unobtainable bench mark. Everyone has the potential to do and be better, some of the time they even exceed their own expectations. I believe that comes from within; self improvement. Work on a varied amount of characteristics/traits/etc.. and change them to what you believe is the very best that you want to achieve. The knock on effect from doing this is far greater than just working solely in 1 area.

For example, Im not into walking upto a girl and being like "you're rad youu". I could, easily but this is not really something I want to persue. However, me simply working on other areas of my life has had a knock on effect that has actually helped me to become better at day game/yad stops.

No point in working on only 1 area; picking up girls (or whatever) if you haven't already got your shit together.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

Im doing bootcamps. £60 per hour.

Originally Posted by XSpacedX

I get where you are coming from what are Yad Stops though?

you are right I need to work on a number of things not just one there are many things I need to do I think clubs would be the best place to start though just being able to start up a conversation would be good though also being able to continue this after I get a date with them one thing I tend to do is let them know Im interested way too fast which always fucks it up for me and never know how to cut it off when I get in too deep lol

Originally Posted by top-hat

If you think you're bad at texting download Tinder swipe right to everyone and practise on there and don't worry about the outcome.

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

Yad stop - Seeing a girl you like. Go upto her and say something on the lines of "your hot etc..".

As a control measure I used to use for myself, whenever I thought that I was getting in too deep when I wasn't interested in doing so I'd simply stop talking to her for a few days and spend more time with the lads.

Actually, theres 1 girl I'm getting kinda deep with and I got a text the other day off her saying she expects an essay style text at least once a week, preferably more. Theres a decision I need to make about this girl, sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by kowalski

Nah, pretty sure a Yad stop is running after girls in the street and leaping out in front of them. I think what you are describing is just talking to a girl in a street.


Peace,

kowalski

Originally Posted by kowalski

First off: I'm definitely not endorsing running after girls and jumping in front of them, by the way. Not saying you should never do that, I could easy think of a situation where that might be a good thing to do, but definitely don't think of it as a skill or tactic or rely upon it or build an ego around doing it or any of that shit.


That wasn't banter, I was just clarifying the definition of a Yad stop. If you look it up (which I did), the official definition of a Yad stop is running after girls and jumping in front of them. The point of the Yad stop is to impress boys. The point of many things in PUA is to impress boys.

When come to PUA they often haven't got a clue about how to talk to girls, maybe a virgin or have had one girl who wasn't even fit and dumped them hard. The goal of a PU company is to extract money from these people. So they need to impress the boys. As a result all the tactics they have developed are about impressing the boys and not about making yourself a more attractive male who people are naturally interested in and are comfortable to follow. All the tactics designed to go 'under the radar' and 'prevent blowouts', for example, are so that the PUA can 'stay in set' longer which is impressive to the noobies. the whole industry is like that and should be avoided... as you should avoid anyone who self-identifies with the term PUA.

This forum is different because the general vibe of the members is that we are actually interested in becoming better men for ourselves individually and not interested in impressing people.

U get me?


Peace,

kowalski

Originally Posted by kowalski

First off: I'm definitely not endorsing running after girls and jumping in front of them, by the way. Not saying you should never do that, I could easy think of a situation where that might be a good thing to do, but definitely don't think of it as a skill or tactic or rely upon it or build an ego around doing it or any of that shit.


That wasn't banter, I was just clarifying the definition of a Yad stop. If you look it up (which I did), the official definition of a Yad stop is running after girls and jumping in front of them. The point of the Yad stop is to impress boys. The point of many things in PUA is to impress boys.

When people come to PUA they often haven't got a clue about how to talk to girls, maybe a virgin or have had one girl who wasn't even fit and dumped them hard. The goal of a PU company is to extract money from these people. So they need to impress the boys. As a result all the tactics they have developed are about impressing the boys and not about making yourself a more attractive male who people are naturally interested in and are comfortable to follow. All the tactics designed to go 'under the radar' and 'prevent blowouts', for example, are so that the PUA can 'stay in set' longer which is impressive to the noobies. the whole industry is like that and should be avoided... as you should avoid anyone who self-identifies with the term PUA.

This forum is different because the general vibe of the members is that we are actually interested in becoming better men for ourselves individually and not interested in impressing boys nor women neither.

U get me?


Peace,

kowalski

Originally Posted by kowalski

Nah, pretty sure a Yad stop is running after girls in the street and leaping out in front of them. I think what you are describing is just talking to a girl in a street.


Peace,

kowalski