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Default 13-01-2014, 08:12 AM

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That must be a very old email as Adam Lyons got married over six years ago and he now lives in Austin Texas with his American wife who I think he met in London. I met him a few times in London back in 2007 when he was one of the top pick up gurus in the UK at the time. His style of game at the time was indirect like most pick up gurus back then were teaching.
I don't even think his marriage is real, wouldn't surprise me if its for marketing purposes. They're wedding video looks fake and cringy, also his "wife" hasn't adopted his surname either.

No idea if its true or not, but apparently the reason he moved to the State is that he was declared bankrupt in the UK as a result of failed stock trading and this affects his status of being a Managing Director or starting his own company for x period of time; he had to move there to continue his PUA business.
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Default 13-01-2014, 10:31 AM

By the way Adam Lyons was one of the very few PUAs who after a few months into the PUA scene never got blown out, see this: AFC Adam Girl in the street LIVE PICK UP on TV - YouTube By being blown out I mean doesn't get strongly rejected. He did used to get blown out a lot when he was starting out though back in 2006 and early 2007. I think very few other PUA gurus have mastered the art of avoiding strong rejections.
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Default 13-01-2014, 10:37 AM

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By the way Adam Lyons was one of the very few PUAs who after a few months into the PUA scene never got blown out, see this: AFC Adam Girl in the street LIVE PICK UP on TV - YouTube By being blown out I mean doesn't get strongly rejected. He did used to get blown out a lot when he was starting out though back in 2006 and early 2007. I think very few other PUA gurus have mastered the art of avoiding strong rejections.
Yeah, what you don't see is how many approaches he did where he was blown out before that successful video. For all you know that girl was paid to be in the video.

Everyone gets blown out & rejected, no exceptions.
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Default 13-01-2014, 10:58 AM

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Yeah, what you don't see is how many approaches he did where he was blown out before that successful video. For all you know that girl was paid to be in the video. Everyone gets blown out & rejected, no exceptions.
No I have met the guy and also read his field reports on the London seduction society forums. He used to get blown out a lot during night game but he really did master game totally within about a year. He does have a degree in psychology which must help him a lot but he was voted the best PUA in the world a few years ago so he must be the real deal. Also I am talking about strong rejections not minor ones when a woman will politely decline your advances. It happens to me a lot, I think I have mastered game and get woman after woman to reacting well then for no reason a woman will react extremely angrily towards me.
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Default 13-01-2014, 11:41 AM

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He was voted the best PUA in the world a few years ago so he must be the real deal.
Yeah, totally, if he was voted number one then he MUST be the real deal.

That means nothing at all. I've met Richard "Gambler" La Ruina and thought he was awful, "Master PUA" indeed, his trainers had more game than him!

Like most of them Adam is in this for one main thing: he's a business man - to make money.
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Default 27-01-2014, 02:34 PM

But I have met the guy and know what he is really like. I know he is very good with women. He also knows a lot about things like social proof and uses social proof a lot in his game. i.e. he will talk to several other women first before he approaches his target. He also knows a lot about other areas of attraction like having good fashion and good body language etc. He was also on the LSS forum for about two years and loads of people from that forum have met him and know he is the real deal.
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Default 27-01-2014, 03:20 PM

You mean he's like many regular members on here but decided to exploit guys who think "they havent got it" for their money and his own satisfaction...


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Default 27-01-2014, 06:01 PM

Stonecastle is the new Sapmi


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Default 27-01-2014, 10:58 PM

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But I have met the guy and know what he is really like. I know he is very good with women. He also knows a lot about things like social proof and uses social proof a lot in his game. i.e. he will talk to several other women first before he approaches his target. He also knows a lot about other areas of attraction like having good fashion and good body language etc. He was also on the LSS forum for about two years and loads of people from that forum have met him and know he is the real deal.
I could sign up to a site and go on about how I'm great with woman and spout loads of theories about xyz. Market it the right way & anyone will believe you. He has got some patter, I'll give you that. Maybe my bitterness toward PUA but I just do not believe this guy is drowning in pussy, sorry. Same goes for Gambler. Actually read domewhere that PUA Training are beginning to struggle, as is Kezia Nobles business as the "PUA boom" is beginning to burst. Of course, could be absolute horse shit and he's a millionaire shagging woman left, right & centre, who knows.
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Default 28-01-2014, 06:25 AM

I'm quite sceptical about the PUA industry. When I was in my mid-twenties I started getting really worried about the fact I hadn't started dating girls. I looked for help but there weren't any resources available at that time. I spent money on a dating agency. £500 I think it was, which was a lot of money to me at that time. It was a con. I got one date out of that which only lasted 5 mins before she left. It only served to knock the little confidence I had.

I'm sceptical because some unscrupulous people will prey on people who are vulnerable. But at the same time at least there are more resources available now that could help some people. Even if it's just pushing them to realise they can do something that they never thought they could do, like cold approaching.

Several years after the dating agency fiasco I still hadn't started dating but I tried cold approaching a few times in bars when I was drunk. Out of that I got a ONS with one girl and another one became my girlfriend for a while, I even moved in with her for a few weeks. I don't know why I didn't continue with the approaching. It might have helped if I had known someone at that time who would say "yes it's okay to do this, and keep doing it".

Some of the characters involved are a bit weird. I don't think we should be encouraging them by giving them money. If the bubble bursts it's probably a good thing. But I think there should be help for guys who are struggling. Even just being able to find like-minded people and a wing.


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