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Default Adam Lyons Words of Wisdom - 14-11-2013, 10:58 PM

I got this yesterday in an email:


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Originally Posted by Adam Lyons
"I'm walking down the street this morning in Santa Monica heading to the American Film Market to meet with a film company I'm talking to about a show I'm pitching. When all of a sudden I notice a cute girl walking in the same direction.

She's got short black hair with dark red highlights, long legs that are covered by her patterned tights and a short mini-skirt.

And I'm wondering to myself, "should I talk to this girl?" I mean. It's not like I'm single.

Heck, I get laid a few times a day. I don't need to bother talking to this girl. It would be a lot easier to just walk by, keep listening to my Pandora station and head on to my meeting.

But I remember something.

I've got balls.

And I like them.

I approach her, not because I want to get laid, not because I want a girlfriend. I approach her because that's where my balls come from, and I don't want them to go away.

The more you practice the better you get at approaching and talking to girls. Once I started talking to her, the conversation flowed easily, we walked for about 5 minutes before we "realized" we were both going to the same place. (She "realized." I knew it for a fact, as she was too cute to just be randomly walking in the same direction as an international film market.)

The three things I wanted to make you aware of are:

1) It turns out this girl works at the exact company I had scheduled a meeting with. Coincidence or not, it wouldn't have happened if I didn't approach. My 10 minute meeting became a two hour one with the CEO as a result of the girl talking me up.

2) I approach because I want to maintain my skill of approaching, not to get a girl. In this way I'm completely outcome independent. I approach for the sake of approaching.

3) By repeatedly doing that which scares others, I maintain my confidence (testicles) and ensure I'll never be afraid to meet a girl (or potential business client) again.

Start approaching. And if you are afraid of approaching due to wondering how to keep the conversation going once you start, watch this video

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Adam
I replied:

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Originally Posted by broadswordsjw
Just 2 things I wonder about this:

1.Aren't you married?

2. Being outcome independent & approaching for the sake if approaching. Aren't these 2 awful mindsets to have? Being outcome independent forces you to act in a way you wouldn't & puts unnecessary pressure on you surely, and approaching for the sake of approaching is stupid isn't it? That's like applying for a job or going for a job interview your not really bothered about, or buying a car your not overly keen on?

Surely a better idea idea would be to approach because you think she's hot, you want to get laid or because you want to talk to her & that the only outcome you should have to start with is to strike up a conversation & see where it goes from there?
To which "Amanda Torres" alledgedly if its her wrote:

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Originally Posted by Amanda Torres
Hey BroadswordWSJ, thanks for the message to Adam!

1. Yes.

2. Worrying about the outcome of something usually makes your behavior change. ie. You get nervous, anxiety kicks in, get flustered, forget what to say, makes you self conscious, etc. We find its better to not think about where you want it to go and instead just enjoy the process.

Hope this helps!
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Thanks,

Amanda Torres
Erm, is the response I got not just contradicting the content of the original email? Does whoever writes actually think about what their writing, care about the content or the responses, or is all they say is a plug for their product and £££?

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Default 14-11-2013, 11:36 PM

I'm going to show my absolute neglect for everything I deem pointless and useless by saying, who is Adam Lyons?

Also, who is Amanda Torres?

In his email where he says
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I approach because I want to maintain my skill of approaching, not to get a girl. In this way I'm completely outcome independent. I approach for the sake of approaching.
I can understand there that he's in a relationship but doesn't want to become rusty in his skills or what ever he does to interact with people so that's why he states 'I approach for the sake of approaching'.

I have to say though, I don't approach people all the time because they're hot, I've found that I approach just for the fun and entertainment, when I go direct it's more of because their hot but a lot of the time it's for entertainment. Maybe that's a reason to why I have a recent tenancy of not escalating or closing.


You've gotta think, he's sent the email to perspective clients, his followers, his sheep. Every company needs money.


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Default 15-11-2013, 01:52 PM

Are you this wasnt dice. He has skewed meanings on the word cheat


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Default 15-11-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson View Post
I'm going to show my absolute neglect for everything I deem pointless and useless by saying, who is Adam Lyons?

Also, who is Amanda Torres?

In his email where he says


I can understand there that he's in a relationship but doesn't want to become rusty in his skills or what ever he does to interact with people so that's why he states 'I approach for the sake of approaching'.

I have to say though, I don't approach people all the time because they're hot, I've found that I approach just for the fun and entertainment, when I go direct it's more of because their hot but a lot of the time it's for entertainment. Maybe that's a reason to why I have a recent tenancy of not escalating or closing.


You've gotta think, he's sent the email to perspective clients, his followers, his sheep. Every company needs money.
Adam Lyons is an English PUA based in the US famed for his work on social dynamics......he was voted 'Worlds number 1 PUA' multiple times a few years back. Amanda is his 'wife'.

I obviously have my own negative views on PUA gurus but I don't believe he goes out and does all this approaching; its alleged he's openly admitted he has a poor success rate and is not amazing with women. He is however a very confident social converser from what I see in his videos and probably very business smart.

Just thought it was quite funny, it was almost as if I got an automated response to my email from a robot.
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Default 15-11-2013, 04:35 PM

Approaching just because you enjoy doing it is fine. Approaching because you'd be concerned about your confidence dropping if you didn't isn't fine, and it's definitely not the same thing. You're born with balls, you don't get them from approaching. If you're worried about them disappearing just reach down and have a feel now and then.


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Default 19-11-2013, 09:11 AM

Immerse yourself in the deep end and you can end up growing a pair.


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Default 19-11-2013, 11:01 AM



Y'all think it's bougie, I'm like, it's fine
But I'm tryin' to give you a million dollars worth of game for $9.99
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Default 10-01-2014, 03:31 PM

That must be a very old email as Adam Lyons got married over six years ago and he now lives in Austin Texas with his American wife who I think he met in London. I met him a few times in London back in 2007 when he was one of the top pick up gurus in the UK at the time. His style of game at the time was indirect like most pick up gurus back then were teaching.
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Default 11-01-2014, 03:52 AM

I tried indirect in the day and it made me feel a bit creepy. I think direct hits more times than it misses. But I realise this is a debate that will go on forever.


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Default 11-01-2014, 03:53 AM

you can be indirect but give a slight compliment which crosses into direct. I think that works well.


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