hey guys,

Does anyone ever feel that girls are completely irrational? and no logical can be put on there actions and attitudes?

To cut a very long story story short,

• I moved back into halls in second year
• I came good friends with my neighbour that is greek
• and through him I meet a girl called alice (not her real name)
• at that time I was an AFC and did everything I shouldnt, like telling her I liked her and that I wanted a relationship
• she said she like me but didnt want a relationship
• we enjoyed each others company for the rest of second year and I was 'the man' due to having the car and knowing everywhere alot better than others. However in second year this has changed due to her mate having a car
• Now this girl is very different from other girls, for example she will kiss alot of her mates on the lips, flirt alot with them, enjoys playing around and is always seen giggling
• she also has the ability to make any guys she likes want her, she will never chase a guy or make much effort
• we have kissed loads time on the lips (however i just think its the 'norm' for her)
• anyway a week ago I asked for her to stay in my bed, she agreed and we fell asleep together, she did move my hand from her waist to her ass and said I prefer it there, I gave her a back massage but nothing further happened as I wanted to take things slowly and build things
• anyway a few days ago, I came back after having an awesome night with a few girl and went into her room and stayed the night, however I progressed things, ended up putting my hand down her knickers and having a very good feel, she didnt flinch or resist
• Now I dont understand her, she wont come into my room or ask me to do anything with her, text me, however she will let me feel and touch anything I want?
• She knows I have another girl that I like, and has seen the text that I have been sent

The thing is she has some other guys, that I know she has had feeling for but havent been able to go any further (the two guys were best friends), she texts and asks to do things with them and are always seen in the same group, however they have only kissed her. I however have other mates, so I think they believe I dont really wanna hang out with them. Now I am not sure if they are satellites and the people that amuse her and drive her everywhere (I will drive her but she has to give me a back massage in return, the other guys will just drive her wherever she wants, I aint a taxi service)

I cant find any logic or reason for what she is doing? The only thing I can think of is, she obviously likes me and maybe these other guys are just people that she uses for a taxi service and enjoyment. Maybe she sees me as a lover not a friend? I am playing everything cool, not being too clingy or seeing her that much as I know she hates clingy guys that she likes. But it pisses me off she never asks to do anything with me etc

But how can I get her to chase me? Coz i am always going into her room and initiating talks etc? Any help would be awesome!

Cheers Tom

p.s. I sort have a smidge of oneiotis, but have other options which I have made clear to her and am pursuing

Dude - uni chicks are a completely different kettle of fish.

But to answer your question - essentially all women are the same.

This chick sounds like she wants to explore her youth, has lots of options, is attractive, has a strong sense of her own value.

Cant blame you for liking her. Different time and place and she could have been yours.

thanks for advice so far guys! I am also coming to the realisation that uni girls are completely weird and not an accurate reflection of what girls are really like. However with this girls, I dont want her as a gf, for the very reasons that you have outlined jaz. I am only wanting a bit of fun with her, and tbh that is what I believe she wants from me, a very casual relationship. However in this casual relationship, I want her to do some of the chasing and also wont it. Maybe I should tell her my that I dont want anything from this and its just a casual relationship?

or is what you guys are suggesting....to ditch her and cut all strings?

Peace

Why do you want her chasing you no.fx? You need to get yourself out there and get more options. You don;t have to cut all ties with this girl as such, sureenjoy the sexual moments if you like. Just don't let it fill your head up with just her. Like Jaz says she's having her cake and eating the validation in spades. It's kind of value sapping and does you NO favours.

Your options are not limited to one girl no.fx... or at least make sure they are not from here on in! There's thousands of amazing girls out there waiting for you! Just step out and start talking to some.

Sound advice people! A big part of this I think is the challenge, I have liked this girl for so long! And i can be a very sour loser at times! Tbh she does seem to have alot of value and does have people running round after her! However its hard to not, she is a very attractive and fun girl. I think due to this attention she doesn't have to chase guys as she gets enough without chasing, so why would she chase?

I do have other girls that I am interested in and are interested in me, however I would say she was further up the list than the others, due to me living next to her and knowing her so well. I was getting beaten up about the whole thing, but now I realise, that was just giving my value away and adding another satellite! I am just going to see where things go! And not attact too much feelings to the outcome!

deffo move on mate, explore the other options you have....

perhaps she'll come back later once she starts to miss you a bit, then BOOM theres your original option!!

Picard!

Hear hear. You only think so much of her as she is playing you in such a way that you get annoyed when she doesn't ask to see you. This is completely distorting reality. Your reality needs to be one of REAL choice. This means stretching the boundaries of your social circles and people you know at uni. It's time to get out there and meet some new girls, ones that you think are hot and cool. There won't just be one... there'll be shed loads!!

Check this out: 'Alice' texts me, whilst I am ill and says:

Can you do me a favour baby? Can u call the gym coz I dont have the number and ask them if they have tramboline today? and what time? xx Luv uuu feeling better?

I think this girl thinks everyone will do everything for her! So i sent back:

Awwww! Are u missing me that much that you want me to book your trampoline for you? You dont have to make up excuses if you wanna talk to me : P x

She sent:

Stupid = ) ye i miss u but thats not the point : P can you call and ask? x

Tbh I am know ones lap dog, so sent:

0******** is the number, prob best you call and sort it out! I am abit busy atm! x x

The thing is she never normally texts me, so this was abit outta the blue! I am also ill! Think I played it right..?

Any comments?

Haha, what a horrible girl! I personally wouldn't be able to stand hanging around with people who treated me this way.

Your response was good. Better still if you'd just said 'no' without saying you were busy - No because I can't be bothered love. Not my problem.

Agreed.

Like your first reply, altho I would have just ignored her second text, shows more value and the mystery would have driven her crazy.