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nova · 28-01-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jynx-Manchester

my issue now is that when we do chat its boring shit becuase im just waiting to take her out. i dont want her to loose interest but i cba texting for the sake of it. i feel like im going to ruin things because i have this time to fill until we eventually meet up.

I would just remind her of your presence every now and again. Maybe text something funny or related to what you chatted about in a week or so. Like you say, you don't want to text her for the sake of it, but of course you do want to stay on her radar.

-SUPERSTAR- · 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Xylo

Well..this looks like it's died on me. Momentum has just slowed right down, and it's funny cause she definitely seemed into me. I'm going to try a double text tomorrow (that is, I was the last one who text without reciprocation), if it pans out then great..

Can you expand on this? What was being said? Has she flaked on you're arranged date, how did she flake?

Xylo · 28-01-2013, 03:43 PM

Well..we were texting daily, (2-3 texts top - long texts), then I forgot to text her back, only for one day, but text her the following day. Today is the 3rd day without hearing from her.

I asked her out wed (for thur night), she said she was really busy with uni work, but we would arrange something this week. So a date wasn't set in stone, no.

I've asked friends for advice, some say don't ever text multiple times and maintain pride. Others say some girls just require a bit of persistence, approached tactfully of course.

Like I say even I feel less interested in her now as it's lost all momentum, so I imagine she's feeling the same..probably amplified due to the fact she's a girl (and in uni).

What's the coolest, most attractive way I can initiate contact again if she doesn't text today? Or should I save face, play it cool..maybe she'll get in touch, maybe she won't.

nova · 28-01-2013, 03:49 PM

Try and phone her

Framejacker · 28-01-2013, 06:00 PM

This is a repost from another forum which I found very helpful for text game

Stylelife Academy Public Forums written by a guy called severedblue

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I was chatting with FREDSTER and was thinking about texting and the game that goes around it. He put up an article on nutrition, so in exchange I will put up an article on my ideas when it comes to texting.

Before we start, let's establish the aim of texting in this article.

The aim of texting is to convince the receiver to meet you in person.

*Unless you intend to have a friendship / relationship over text only... which is kind of silly... and pointless...

Stemming from the above focus, here are six ideas / rules for effective texting that are not dependant on the gender of the receiver.

1# NEVER expect a reply from a text. It’s a fire-and-forget weapon. So instead structure texts so that, if they do not reply, they lose e.g. they don’t get to go on a dinner date. (I have an article as well on “always winning!”)

2# WHEN IN DOUBT, DO NOT SEND THAT TEXT. Better to offer silence than send a text that you regret.... the receiver will fill in the silence appropriately either with a compliant or ambivalent answer, rather than a diplomatically compromising one. If in doubt over whether a text can be horribly misinterpreted, or if your text is weak and insipid, do not send.
“Better to let them think you a fool, rather than to open your mouth and remove any doubt!”

Another good idea that springs from this. If you are emotionally compromised or drunk, turn off your phone immediately. It stops you sending stuff that you will regret when you return to your senses.

3# Arbritrary time limits on when to send texts are stupid. Some AFCs say, “oh I’ll wait a week so as not to sound needy.” WAITING THE TIME LIMIT IS NOT THE POINT, NOT SOUNDING NEEDY IS THE POINT.... so often they are treated as equivalent, when the two ideas are actually independent of each other. Perhaps it's because of a "cargo-cult" mentality on Idea #4... AFCs blindly copying the waiting period of the experienced without realising why the waiting period is there...
So what I usually do is, reply IMMEDIATELY with one text, but avoid barraging a receiver with multiple texts. If I feel needy and am about to break Rule 1, I organise another meet-and-greet / D2 with a few other people before sending the next text, so that you still always win and your tone is not needy. If I don't see the text because the phone is in my gym bag, no biggie. The message reply is on MY time, not on the receiver's timeline... so I will reply when it suits me if it was really urgent, they should call / leave a missed call.

4# In parallel to point number 3, TAKE YOUR TIME WHEN CRAFTING TEXTS. Make sure you get the message and wording just right before sending it. There is no perogative to send it immediately, rushing a text is, 9/10 times, more damaging than taking your time to word it properly.

5# You cannot hear tone over text. So use smiley faces / phrases that CANNOT be misconstrued by the doubt of the receiver. This is particularly with sarcasm to make sure they realise you are joking.
Example, a bad text to send is, “you need an honest voice” the implication being – “you are dishonest”. Women particularly tend to see these reverse implications with their tendency to doubt, so will often read in “he’s saying I’m fat” or “he’s saying I’m a slut” as the message... be careful!

In this case it is better to simply send, "hey we'll chat about it when we next meet up over coffee." Intrigue is currency here!

6# There are safe times to send texts. Generally a “pleased to meet you” text, a “thank you” text and a “Happy Birthday” text are safe texts to send without raising the hackles of the receiver. If you are going to send one of these, it is better to personalise it rather than sending a mass text
(As an aside, it’s amasing how many AFCs copy and paste texts as if they were magic bullets!)

Another great article on texting that got me started by Whiz Kid:
http://www.stylelife.com/vbulletin/s...ight=text+call

There is one more rule (the seventh, hidden-but-obvious rule). Be prepared to break any rule- you have authority to, as long as you accept the consequence of deviating from any particular rule. By your personality, your circumstance, your relationship with the receiver, YMMV. Stuff that works for me may not work for you and vice versa.

As with everything in pickup, the only way to find out is to try it out, and that means trying it more than once.

Final point: Texts aren't always a substitute for calling. Be brave and call when you feel it is appropriate, rather than cowardly hiding behind texts because you don't have the balls to call. A journeyman PUA knows how and when to do both. It is about choosing the most effective ordinance for the job at hand... if you're not proficient at both, work towards becoming more confident at both.

For further reading, my old article, which still holds true:
http://www.stylelife.com/vbulletin/s...ad.php?t=77331

Framejacker · 28-01-2013, 07:35 PM

Also this one was a good one as well

The Aim of SMS and MSN is TO GET A DAY2 - Stylelife Academy Public Forums

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I see a lot of newcomers and our younger players talking about "facebook chat" or "sms game" or "msn".

I've read three "help! urgent! there's this girl" scenarios.

They proceed then to tell me how they run "tight (??) game over msn/sms/fb chat" and they neg them... and neg them... and neg them until the girl stops responding. Then they wonder why they messed up.

STOP MSNING GIRLS TO DEATH KIDS!!!

Call her and set up a day2. THE AIM IS TO GET THE GIRL ON A DATE. Being clever is stupid if you don't get the girl!

Don't be a wuss. Call the girl.

At least we have one unlikely hero. He secured a day2 and kissed the girl. That's because he grew some balls, called the girl, and set up a day2. So always review your objectives and make sure you're aiming to get them to meet you in person.

SMSs are fine to build up interest. But you gotta spend the interest on something!

I used to be terrified of phone calls - only practice made perfect. Boy did I say some awkward things, and make some awkward calls... even now some of my jokes suck. But they're getting better and I get Day2s.

As a BONUS I'll even throw in the phone call pro-forma that works for me.
hello, and your name clearly
is this 'girls name'
Ask "do you have time to chat?" If she says she's busy, say "that's cool, call back later"
Mention something exciting in your week. I love to eat stuff so I say, "I went to a french restaurant and ate the veiled quail. It was sooo yummy."
If the girl starts talking stfu. Listen carefully and feed into the conversation. every second she talks you gain more and more rapport.
Finish by asking for a day2 by saying "I was calling to see how you've been because we haven't caught up for a while. Are you free to chat over a meal?" Give her two days to choose from "Next Tuesday or Thursday is good for me." Take the lead
If she's busy on those days then I ask her, "okay then, if those days don't work, which day suits you?" and let her rattle off times. I don't say this one first because it can come out awkward...the chick expects the guy to take the lead.
If you have one last interesting quip, say it now to make it look less like you called her just to set up the date.

If she doesn't pick up then I leave an SMS saying, "I called, please all me back at your convenience." If she doesn't call back, NEXT>>. If she flakes, NEXT>>.

Okay guys. Stop MSNing chicks to death.

Meet them in person. You can't kiss them when they're online. No really.

Game on
- Blue

Misc Tips:
I learnt from my slamming hot oneitis that it's perfectly legal to call to confirm the day2 the day before. It may give an anxious girl a way out, but it's better than her flaking on you. The key is to be like "oh, you can't make it? I generally don't like it when people pike but *your reason sounds genuine* so cool, we'll chat soon."
ALWAYS have a reason to call a girl, get well soon, happy birthday, sorry for your loss, organise a date... don't call because you're bored and want to know what she's doing. Checking up on a girl is needy.

SmileyK · 28-01-2013, 08:01 PM

Better advice in the 2nd re-post

nova · 28-01-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Xylo

Well..we were texting daily, (2-3 texts top - long texts), then I forgot to text her back, only for one day, but text her the following day. Today is the 3rd day without hearing from her.

I don't get this loss of momentum thing. Is this purely because she didn't respond to one single text? I get the feeling you are placing too much value on her responses to your texts. I used to do the very same.

One thing I learnt was to stop making the mistake of asking questions constantly merely to get her to reply. You yourself should demonstrate enough value that she will want to reply regardless.

Bottom line, you need to experiment. The posts you pasted have some good advice. Try practicing ringing the girls as well as texting.

Phil · 28-01-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nova

I don't get this loss of momentum thing. Is this purely because she didn't respond to one single text?

if im texting a girl i like, i will always respond to a text, just like i would text if someone asked me if i want £1000 for free.

you know yourself if somone texts and you think "they are not going anywhere" then they have less value.

if a girl doesnt text me back, and i recently got her number. i will probably not bother texing them back.

if its a girl ive been shaggin and she doesnt, i forget about it and will probly text them again after a period of time. dont really get hung up on it.

nova · 28-01-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

if im texting a girl i like, i will always respond to a text, just like i would text if someone asked me if i want £1000 for free...

...if a girl doesnt text me back, and i recently got her number. i will probably not bother texing them back.

I sometimes don't reply to texts. If there's no reason to reply, then why would I? At what point is the interaction supposed to end? The biggest mistake I used to make was texting for texting's sake.