The only reason you even think of this situation as a problem is because you don't have other chicks on the go and thus are too dependent on the outcome of this particular situation.

If she likes you, she'll be giving signals by the time the 2nd date is over...you'll just know. The fact you're still going on dates is enough.
3rd date should really be a Fri/Sat night with some drinks so you can loosen up a bit and then easy snog by the end with possibility of more depending on situations...

Indeed, by 3rd date at the latest, the logistics must be spontaneous shag friendly.

OMFG!!! i thought u was like 19??

look mate, my bird when i first me her i was PETRIFIED of makin a move, dunno why i knew she would have it, but i liked her, so was on the back foot.

had i not made a move when i did, she would have jibbed me.

just fuckin do it, she isnt dating you coz she dont like u.

if she has to make the move, u lose bonus points,

u be a man, and make it happen, u gain points & probably dictate the pace of the relationship.

Just say COME HERE, and kiss her

and dont bother posting again till its done.

I missed that bit ... since age 43 (a few years ago now) I've dated women ranging in ages from 23 to 50 and no, there any special approach needed for any particular age group.

See my post in the other thread about opportunity. Specifically you need to get this woman out of public view to somewhere she she can act on her animal urges.

This says all you need to know about this situation. Time to take some risks. Like Phil said before, it really is win win.

As a generalization women in their early 30s need the least amount of work to make magic
- They aren't young and naive, expecting fairytale princes
- Most of them feel there is a biological countdown
- They are sexually experienced but havent let themselves go/lost touch

The problem I see it is:
You're a decent guy
All girls are looking for decent guys
So she dates you
But there isn't any magic there, maybe a little attraction but nothing magnetic
You both acknowledge that you're both attractive and decent people
There is nothing wrong to call things off but nothing to progress things either.

Choices are as Phil suggests
Take charge and make the magic happen or
Let it slide and find somebody else

go with option 1 because if it doesn't work, option 2 will happen regardless.

If you are looking advice on how to make the magic happen then try the following:
-Be politely assertive so for the next date tell her what you are doing and when but in a way that sounds like a question "Hey there is this awesome thing on this Saturday - I'll pick you up, is 8 ok?" You've pretty much told her you are going to the awesome thing but have asked the question about the time.
- Gently tease her during the date, nothing personal or deep, just about her week or a funny story that happened
- Take charge and just hold her damn hand! do it without thinking about it so it's not a big deal, when you are walking along just grab her hand and hold it.
- If she doesn't tear away from the above then keep going it and and some point when walking to the car/house/scene of the crime just pul her close and kiss her before she has a chance to think about pointless crap!

I manned up, kinoed, held her hand during the date, and kissed her at the end of the night.

Yes I was pussy-footing around before but hey I'm inexperienced despite my advanced years otherwise I wouldn't be on here. Its all about getting the guts to take what you want, and I understand that, it's just been hard for me to put into practice. It's all in the head isn't it.

But all in all, success, she's a fittie and now i'm over the psychological barrier it's kino all the way.

Daleinthedark your post was by far the best cheers mate, but all the advice was awesome and Phil I respect your directness you don't muck about and it needs to be said sometimes.