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Default Finally decided to start on steroids! - 08-09-2013, 11:59 AM

Hi all,

Ok, so first I want to thank Phil and Cumbria PUA for imparting their knowledge in a couple of previous threads. I decided the other day that enough is enough!

I've been working out hard, keeping protein high etc for MANY years and have had enough. I've seriously plateaud and it's time to take it to another level. If I see another kid with traps three times the size of mine who's gym sessions and diet are inferior to mine I think I'm gonna flip.

So, current status - I have a GOOD body, 15% body fat, muscles etc but certainly NOT ripped, very good, awesome etc. And it's not gonna happen - not now that I'm over 30 and with my genes!!

I'm planning on doing the following:

1. Ordering needles from ebay: best place?!
2. choosing a site and ordering testosterone enanthate 250mg and nolvadex and clomid. And, I'm planning on a 10 week cycle with the t.e./nolvadex and then waiting 21 days and doing 3 weeks of climid therapy.

Phil/Cumbria etc I'd be grateful for any advice on this - plus do you reckon I should wait 21 days or just 14 days after last injection before starting pct - the jury seems to be out on this?!

Thanks!
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Default 08-09-2013, 07:57 PM

Hmmm... eh.... hmmmm... eh.... well Uber let us know how that works out for you...


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Default 08-09-2013, 10:50 PM

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Hi all,

Ok, so first I want to thank Phil and Cumbria PUA for imparting their knowledge in a couple of previous threads. I decided the other day that enough is enough!

I've been working out hard, keeping protein high etc for MANY years and have had enough. I've seriously plateaud and it's time to take it to another level. If I see another kid with traps three times the size of mine who's gym sessions and diet are inferior to mine I think I'm gonna flip.

So, current status - I have a GOOD body, 15% body fat, muscles etc but certainly NOT ripped, very good, awesome etc. And it's not gonna happen - not now that I'm over 30 and with my genes!!

I'm planning on doing the following:

1. Ordering needles from ebay: best place?!
2. choosing a site and ordering testosterone enanthate 250mg and nolvadex and clomid. And, I'm planning on a 10 week cycle with the t.e./nolvadex and then waiting 21 days and doing 3 weeks of climid therapy.

Phil/Cumbria etc I'd be grateful for any advice on this - plus do you reckon I should wait 21 days or just 14 days after last injection before starting pct - the jury seems to be out on this?!

Thanks!
if its your first cycle. Enth is fine. get a deca as well. id do 2mill of each a week for the 10 weeks.

U search online for needle exchanges and get a steroid pack for free.

do ur research into jabbing and get someone to do it for you. play safe and go in the ass or shoulder.

after ur 10 weeks. wait 7 days then have ur HCG shots. 3 over 7 days.

then 2 weeks after your last jab (3 if u wer having deca) start taking the Nolv & Clom.

u take it in a pyramid so like 200 mg for a week 100 for a week 50 for a week or somethin like that. google for peoples diff input.

The deca i suggest you take because of the help it gives for joints, if you are gonna be increasing your strenght by 30% plus in a very short space of time... u need deca, or ur gonna get injured.

Be Carefull... be prepared for BIG strength gains.


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Default 09-09-2013, 11:38 AM

It must be very important for you to be ripped if you're prepared to stick injections in your ass.

Does this sort of thing have side affects? What happens when you stop taking the injections? More importantly why do you want to have bigger muscles & be stronger?

I only really do cardio at the gym but then again I like a lot of cycling so having huge muscles isn't necessary.


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Default 09-09-2013, 02:13 PM

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It must be very important for you to be ripped if you're prepared to stick injections in your ass.
a sentiment we are all too quick to forget in life - is it that important you'd stick stuff in your ass


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Default 09-09-2013, 11:25 PM

ha ha, markuk - I work part time as a stripper and also topless butler and and nude life model, and I'm competing with very ripped, muscular guys. I'm retiring in a year so this is my last chance so see if I can maximise my income so yeah it's important. There's potential side effects with any drug - including vitamin c and aspirin: read the side effects list on those!

Phil - thanks for your sage advice, I'll study in some depth what you've written. I was planning on just sticking with T.E. for my first cycle but steroid.com suggests combining it with dianabol and you of course have suggested deca - so I'll look in to those. I've already done many hours of research since I did that last post so I'm getting there! I'm even paying 90 to get a blood test and see what my testoterone levels are this Thursday. I may PM you for further clarification etc. Thanks again!
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Default 15-12-2013, 06:58 PM

If you have plateaued with your weight training it doesn;t mean you need to start taking anabolic steroids to bulk up. You are obviously not varying your exercises and progressing by adding extra weight and pushing yourself. Do you train with a partner this is a good way of increasing motivation. If you are a young man your testosterone levels should be high so there is no need for any legal testosterone boosters or illegal steroids. Why would you want to risk your long term health in terms of organ failure on looking good? You would get more satisfaction form bulking up in a natural way instead of cheating.
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Default 01-01-2014, 10:05 PM

Casanova, I hear you mate. I'm in my 30's so not so young anymore and have been training a long time! Re training partner and varying exercises, adding extra works you speak a lot of sense. Unfortunately, I ain't got no training partner...and there seems to be a limit as to the amount of variation one can do - you've got the big compound stuff and then the other more individual muscle specific ones seem to be limited. THAT SAID, I'll try to add more variation and maybe start noting the weight and working on increasing it. Although to be fair I do train hard. I still haven't started on the gear, apart for a VERY mild oral for a few weeks - which had negligible effect. I think I'll take what you've said on board - give it a go for January - and then see where I am.
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Default 01-01-2014, 11:06 PM

Its this simple.

If your test levels are low the NHS will give you anabolic steroids.

Yet for some reason, anabolic steroids are 'really bad for you' … if they where that dangerous with that negative a side effect, TRT wouldn't be available.

Its the same as every drug, do it safely and well informed and its fine.

The whole 'its cheating' is crap.

I haven't trained for 3 months now, lost lots of gain, but I'm gonna try get big without any gear, since I've been there before muscle memory should now be that i can do because I've previously been big with juicing.

You can't get as big naturally as you can on steroids, and before someone starts making themselves look stupid and arguing that point here is my pre ordained response.

There are 2 types of competition

Natural bodybuilding and just plain Old bodybuilding.


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Default 11-01-2014, 09:03 PM

Cheers for that Phil - yeah believe me I know what can and can't be achieved naturally ha! Spent nearly 20 years of my life hitting the gym and I still only have a 'pretty good' body lol!

Looks like I'll be starting my first cycle of 4 weeks dianabol, 10 weeks test enanthate, and also hcg for ten weeks, starting three weeks onto my cycle, and then finish it all of with rohm PCT pills. May need to pm you some time for a query lol! After that cycle I'm gonna do more research into the "blast and cruise" thing? I only came across it recently, the cruise but will be similar to TRT...and blast obviously up/add etc for a few weeks: do you have any thoughts on blast/cruise?
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