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Default 06-06-2012, 09:55 PM

It's only annoying if you're not worthy of talking to them and are generally an annoying person.

As you are learning to become confident in yourself and build on your intentions, what do you think the answer would be?
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Default 06-06-2012, 10:02 PM

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It's only annoying if you're not worthy of talking to them and are generally an annoying person.

As you are learning to become confident in yourself and build on your intentions, what do you think the answer would be?
I more of mean when I do the tap to get their attention do they think "Ah who the fuck is tapping me?" then see me.

Or

Is it "Oh who's this". The very action rather than how I am after it (even if you mean literally straight after)
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Default 06-06-2012, 10:09 PM

In my opinion tapping on the shoulder is a little weak. Girls need a firm hold from you, start with physical contact and escalate this on and off through your interaction.

Project confidence until you're confident. Then you'll have it naturally.

Once you have confidence, all these little things that you're over thinking and looking for others to tell you the answer will just melt away. You won't even think about where to touch, what to say etc. Get the confidence mastered, the rest should flow nicely.
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Default 07-06-2012, 04:12 AM

7/100

Wednesday 6th June 2012

Was sitting on FB glazed over the computer at like 12:20am talking to some friend about clubbing, as I planned to stay in (Manchester can seem like such a big deal with the train home, something about knowing you can't go home w/e you want that puts you off).

Told my friend I wanted to go out.

Friend: Go out then.

I was already superman-ed into being dressed in some skanky shirt lying on the floor, filthy.

Got the club, in Bolton, it was fucking empty other than my friends. Just a night of turning up which is my only criteria for success. Had a blast all night. No drinking, sober remember, until some friends bought me about 4 shots and 5 drinks, had a go on the punch machine and danced like a mong for all of it.

Now I don't like to mention every conversation I have with a girl when I know them as 'gaming' but I did speak to a girl that seemed a little into me.

Also during the night I was just chilling leaning against the wall, as crazy dancing tires you out, this girl I kinda like (and could probably get with if I had enough 'game') kept coming up to me a lot. Saying nonsensical words, drinking her drink, random commands to play JB "Baby" which is an awesome song, at the end of the night she came was a bit more touchy feely - such as shoving her hand down my shirt.

But she's the kinda girl who speaks to every guy on a night out, you can tell she's just enjoying the fun and validation and who wouldn't? I ain't being butt hurt about it.

So I guess it's like i don't really try with her, properly that is.

I remember someone saying "The 9's are the easiest to speak and flirt with as they know the closing is the hard part", she fits neatly into this. I mentioned her before; at least 10 guys (the same guys usually) who follow her around hitting on her every night.

So yeah just a fun night out. Out with Sapmi tomorrow in 5th. I know this FR sounded like a bit pointless but its more for me to look back and be like "Oh thats what I was like 6months ago" or more optimistically, "HA! I was like that back then? I fucked those 2 boobies last night" but who knows

Night.

EDIT: Completely irrelevant; in the takeaway on the way home, I was with my friend who is Bi and we were pointing at another friend (who's gay but says he's Bi) Shouting "hahaha bender! You're way more gay than him, gay boy gay boy!!" and other permutations of the topic. I don't know why that was so funny but I nearly had a breakdown from laughing so hard.

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Default 08-06-2012, 06:41 PM

8/100

Thursday 7th June 2012

Went out with Sapmi to The Factory which is a place I'd never been to. New club; scary. It was basically a dance-floor and I didn't really do any approaching. Other than to one or 2 girls at the bar.

Also I'm still stiff when it comes to being with wings but I do see its benefits and its a personal problem rather than anything exterior.

After Sapmi left I went 5th but still didn't do any there for the hour I was in there.

Then on the way home a hooker offered me sex for £20, she was near the gay village, 'she' in all probability was a 'he'.

I went home.
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Default 08-06-2012, 06:52 PM

20 quid? WHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????????


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Default 08-06-2012, 07:05 PM

hahahaha

I think its Princess street, the part that runs adjacent (is that the word?) to the Gay Village.

Just do a few laps along there at the end of an unsuccessful night Sapmi :P
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Default 08-06-2012, 08:11 PM

Good call mate! It's one thing paying for sex but paying at that low rate from a street hooker near the gay village...NOT a good idea. Funny stuff. I'll give you a shout tomorrow. Hope 5th Av goes well.
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Default 09-06-2012, 03:53 PM

9/100

Friday 8th June 1012

Went out to 5th with Sapmi.

I wasn't approaching. That's my thing with wings/friends I get way too comfortable. Also it seems to take me a few hours to feel relaxed in the environment BUT I want to be approaching as soon as I enter the club.

I remember one opener I did whilst waiting for Sapmi was by the stairs, I was messing around and said "ID's ladies", they actually thought I was a bouncer. Its a bit lame but the more I go to the clubs the more I think "What Im out here to do is hardly weird or 'bad' compared to the endless shit you notice when sober".

Although this is on a logical level not emotional - otherwise I'd be approaching more :P

Anyway I spoke to a few of the sets Sapmi was speaking to. Some cute blonde girls but I got the feeling they just wanted some of Sapmi's cigarette so I just busted on them telling them to tell me jokes and calling them Sophie (no idea what their name was). Apparently one of the girls looked interested in me but I think it was the cigarette :P

Had a good interaction with a few people but I feel myself not considering them approaches any more, far too easy. So I guess I am 'improving' on some level. In fact I did do a sort of approach with a 2 set then bailed straight after the opener because I genuinely didn't realise what i was doing haha.

In the quieter area spoke to both groups of girls on either side of me but again i don't consider these approaches anymore.

By the end of the night I was way more at ease with people around me, saw that natural guy out again and was just feeling far more loose and relaxed. Hopefully that is something that will speed up with time.

Progression

Okay so far my goal has been to turn up. Now I'm changing it to turn up and approaching as soon as I enter.

Also for the next whole week, I'm making it so I do 1 proper approach each night like the one I did with Joe. Its all gotta be as soon as I enter.

Tonight is all about building up to that one big beautiful approach. Straight from the get-go. I understand I wont feel comfortable till the end of the night. Accept it and carry on
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Default 09-06-2012, 05:43 PM

Don't be afraid to approach more than what you are doing. When you start this sort of thing you need to become a but of an approach machine. This is so you can get as many interactions with women as possible and become an approach machine.

You can do it in one night. Approach the first girl you see. If you want advice on how to break through that zone please see this

http://www.puaforums.co.uk/field-rep...rtist-pt1.html

These are my field reports from a few years ago. Yes it's high energy, but gets you out of your shell. Also try to get a copy of flawless natural by tim RSD. Classic just to get you in state. Get into approach mode more, then you can work on the seduction part. This could be sorted in one night! In fact sort this in half a night, then we can go into escalation/ seduction.

Approaching/opening is the hardest part of this. The rest is easier unless your senile like me (now where is my coat again?)


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