My night out at Tiger Tiger can be split into 2 sections: before and after the above statement.

Met up with Markuk and a couple of other guys, get into the 70s room and there are lots of women. Gravitate to the dancefloor, within 5 minutes I'm in a 6 set without even moving from my position! Asked one of them what the occasion was, it's a hen party (there were a lot of those in there that night). Continue dancing, I'm getting IOIs from at least 3, err which one to go for?

Then out of nowhere another member of the party appears and immediately engages me in some dirty dancing. And this is where the night got interesting....

To cut a long story short, there was a definite sexual vibe, when I sat down with her we had some banter, she kept repeatedly telling me that the only male member of the party was gay. She then discloses that she's married, but makes it very clear she is up for a ONS and nothing more (the party came up from Brighton). At this point I should have just taken her out of the club, instead we talk a bit more and then she says she is going to get a drink. I go outside for some fresh air, whilst in the smoking section I start chatting to another girl who is also on a hen do.

When I go back inside some 25 minutes later, she is still sat on the sofa but this time one of her friends is in the space where I was sat. When going to sit down, another one the friends comes up to me and says the title line (see top of thread). I should have seen it coming - the woman herself said that she was a senior manager and there were quite a few colleagues in the party (that old chestnut of social conditioning again) so she didn't want to do anything in front of them. Couldn't be bothered to argue with her friend, although in retrospect I should have said that her friend could speak for herself if she wanted me to do one.

The abrupt dismissal affected my state for quite a while after that, but remembered reading the thread by Snake Eyes (don't resist, take right action). After that I just ambled through the club engaging with sets here and there.

The only other notable moment was when I approached a lone girl sitting down - she said she had a boyfriend, however when I got up to leave wouldn't let go of my hand. Errr...think that was a failure on my part.

Things to think about
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1) Cockblockers - I really just need to ask the woman direct if she is comfortable with the situation....or engage a friends a little better.

2) Sets with more than 1 girl showing IOIs - advice?

(Preamble - Let's say you want to fuck a married woman, I don't think I would, but that's a massive seperate discussion.) As for what happened:

(A) 25 minutes later? She has already laid her cards on the table that she wants ONS. So, if a woman is horny for cock and you are away for almost half an hour, you run the risk of some other dude filling in the gap [pun intended!]

(B) 25 minutes later? Sexual tension has died down a bit, you need to reboot it! Time inefficient, when she already told you she is up for it.

(C) You did well and built up sexual tension with her, dirty dancing, then isolated her away from dance floor crowd by sitting down with her and continued a sexual tone. All good. She lays her cards on the table that she wants ONS. Even better. So then it's just being upfront... sooner or later, the man has to lead the thing. You are the man. Hold strong unbroken eye contact with her, hold her close and "LET'S LEAVE. U r staying at mine tonight... ... can u find the ticket for your jacket OK?" or similar, take her by the hand and stand up off the seats with her.... then start to walk off with her.

The last bit about jacket is a redirection to shift her logical mind to talking about something trivial and non-sexual. That is, you force a response from her about getting tickets for jackets / queing for jackets / bye to friends (whatever logistics that moves the two of you out of the club) and not some LMR crap about "ooh don't want to leave with you, I dunno".

I very rarely have a problem with cockblock thats mainly because I'm charming and friendly to everyone in the group, I work really hard to win them over, sometimes I do such a good job that when I do get the girl she will say 'I thought you were interested in my friend'

Having said this I find two sets much more likely to cock block regardless.

Almost immediately after the rejection I realised the time gap was the fatal error.

Regarding the married status - I was in 2 minds about this on the way home, firstly because in a way I was glad nothing happened, but on the other hand she was a grown woman and wasn't on some BS tip. I believe there have been previous threads about this issue.

Agreed - normally I talk to everyone, in this case her friends were particularly hard-faced so should have charmed the pants off them. I thought that winning over the gay best friend would have been enough, clearly I was wrong.

Knave and Rebus have some sound advice, the only thing I would say is just realize there were probably tons of other HBs in the club so try not to get hung up on 1 situation as it can make and break state. Take what you can from it, find your mates for a quick boost and then open some more

Which one do you prefer? Go for that one.

I would have just said something like, 'I was speaking to your friend, she didn't seem to mind.'

Meant to say to you Smiley, you seem to have a real good attitude when we're out. Always seem to be in set and comes across like your having a good time.

I was there at Tiger Tiger too, I'm not sure if I met you...I'm bad with names, especially when intoxicated. Was good to meet everyone btw.

I hadn't been to Tiger in at least a year..I forgot how busy it gets. You're right, there were lots of hen parties going on...ideal opportunity, but its been nearly a year out of sarging...so I'm very rusty.

I couldn't get into the vibe in the 70's music room, and I ended up drinking too much, d'oh. But not to the point of making a tit of myself, just to get rid of some approach anxiety. There was plenty of opportunity in that 70's room, need to go for it a bit more next time.

I went upstairs to the housey type music...I like to do a walkthrough of any club or place I go to. Get a feel for the place, look out for any quiet spots etc. I settled on doing my own thing infront of the dj, she was pretty good...nice mixing and decent tracks...one which I thought I'd never hear at a place like that. So the music got me chilled and in the mood, I noticed a woman come dance kinda close...so I ushered her over to my spot....next to my legs, there were some wooden panels..where the base felt really good as you could feel it vibrating against your legs. She seemed to enjoy it lol, a solid hb7. I said I had to go find my friends and number closed, she wanted me to meet her friends...so I said ok. So we held hands as she lead the way to another room to her friends. In her group were 3 other girls and 1 guy, this is where I needed a wing! She introduced me, I quickly befriended the guy and everyone. After a bit of dancing, I was cockblocked by her friends who wanted to take her to another spot...shit!!

So went to Zoo bar with a friend, which was ok. Then back to Tiger Tiger, I had lost my momentum at this point...met up with the girl towards the end of the night, but she was dancing with a guy. My energy was low at this point, and he seemed like a jack in the box high on speed. So I gave her a kiss on the cheek and told her I'd call her. As everyone one else was leaving too. But not enough approaches that night.

SmileyK think you did well to get into that set.

Fearless think we were speaking. Yea 70's room was a bit pants. I want to go out earlier next time, maybe to a bar or pub and try approaches there before heading into the club. It was too noisy and busy for me to enjoy it.

Mark

Fucking Tiger Tiger - are you serious? What a shit bar.