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Default 29-07-2014, 08:44 AM

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Why don't you just answer that question. It's not too much analysis, just an honest observation.
Is it an observation or a question?


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Default 29-07-2014, 09:35 AM

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Which do you think it is?
Do you think the two are mutually exclusive?
Or are you just trying to avoid your real internal issues?

Is this your new "Some people aren't taking action on here"?

Here is the same challenge - List all the people who over-analyse on here with quotes and explanations of how each quote is an example of over-analysis.


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Default 29-07-2014, 12:04 PM

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I wanted to reduce the chance of a flake so spent an hour with her just talking pretty normal stuff.

She responded to my first text right away and seemed keen to meet up. That's what I wanted to happen as most of the numbers I've got have flaked.

I've asked her out for a drink. No response yet.
Your goal is to reduce flakes? It seems to me, like all PUAs, you are stuck in the ideology that numbers and dates are results. They are not.


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Default 29-07-2014, 07:28 PM

I'm going to stand in the corner of my Scottish friend...continue doing what you are doing, i.e. taking action.

BUT

I remember reading Nova's early posts in his day-game journal, and he was continually pushing himself out of his comfort zone. Whilst there was a lot of initial pain, it eventually yielded results in the long term.

So the question is: are you really pushing yourself in your interactions? It seems like you are comfortable in giving compliments; if you don't wish to create 'comfort', then I guess you would have to switch your style to being slightly more of an asshole?


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Default 29-07-2014, 09:29 PM

Thank'd SmikeyK because I like people who come from loving angles.

My current thoughts on this .

I still feel you want to be a 'PUA' whatever that is. When you talk to me about women, you lower the volume of your voice, to the point where I have to ask you to speak louder. I know you can speak loudly so this is a choice you are making (unconscious, I would presume).

Are you aware you're doing this? (Should be as I mentioned it before)
Have you questioned why you are doing this?

Yesterday you said to me 'I don't want other people to hear’; were you conscious you even said that and why you say that?

My take.
This all points to underlying beliefs / issues you have, which are probably not healthy. I mentioned before a psychologist helped me and would help you.

Perhaps becoming a 'PUA' is actually reinforcing these beliefs.
That is becoming a PUA, is like joining a special community, no one 'normal' will understand, so we must talking quietly in their presence in case we are 'discovered'.

So in summary, I’m saying yes it’s good to talk to women and it’s even better to sort your own shit out.

I’m going to try and evaluate myself now in my thread, equality and all that.


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Default 29-07-2014, 09:54 PM

ok - here are the bits I'm thanking.

I agree, it's positive to take action.
Nova's posts were good as he took action and experimented.

However this is superficial stuff (or bullshit as K put it).
Nova came to this conclusion, he stopped doing 'day game' and got back into his passions and meeting people who shared them (if I remember his post correctly).

I still find it really hard to evaluate myself.

I am competent at my job as a software developer. I wasn't always. Often I get frustrated with other developers who I deem as incompetent. I say to myself, it's fucking easy, they're fucking retards. It's easy to lose track I was once a fucking retard who found it hard.

The point I'm making is, being competent and getting girls and 'results' could also make it hard to emphasise with us guys are are not getting girls or 'results'


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Default 29-07-2014, 09:56 PM

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Your goal is to reduce flakes? It seems to me, like all PUAs, you are stuck in the ideology that numbers and dates are results. They are not.
Results no but progress yes.


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Default 29-07-2014, 10:05 PM

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Lol at switch your style. Authenticity does not that way lie.
SmileyK, that was bullshit. I know you try come from the loving angle but you aren't helping here at all, you are hindering. If you care, stop it.


Peace,

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Are there any specific points that you found to be BS, or all of it?

I stand by the props for taking action. Yes there is probably a better way to communicate my other points, but at least the guy is getting out there


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Default 29-07-2014, 10:07 PM

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I'm going to stand in the corner of my Scottish friend...continue doing what you are doing, i.e. taking action.

BUT

I remember reading Nova's early posts in his day-game journal, and he was continually pushing himself out of his comfort zone. Whilst there was a lot of initial pain, it eventually yielded results in the long term.

So the question is: are you really pushing yourself in your interactions? It seems like you are comfortable in giving compliments; if you don't wish to create 'comfort', then I guess you would have to switch your style to being slightly more of an asshole?
Yes to the first question but room for improvement. No to being more of an asshole. Just being less serious and more playful. More teasing and light in the interaction is what I am aiming for at the moment.


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Default 29-07-2014, 10:08 PM

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ok - here are the bits I'm thanking.

I agree, it's positive to take action.
Nova's posts were good as he took action and experimented.

However this is superficial stuff (or bullshit as K put it).
Nova came to this conclusion, he stopped doing 'day game' and got back into his passions and meeting people who shared them (if I remember his post correctly).
This bit confuses me - so taking action is initially superficial?


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