Yesterday me and my wing went into town to do abit of sarging we hadnt been out gaming for a while so were trying to get back into the swing of things. I decided to approach a few women and say to them im curious about an item they were wearing for eg a sparkly dress etc. I done this on 3 women working in shops who gave me big smiles and warmed me up for a direct approach. i didnt try and continue the convo i just said i was looking for a present for my sister and thanked them.

After this i aproached a girl working on a counter in a shop and told her I just had to come over and tell you that you look absolutely beautiful today and that i would be kicking myself if i didn't come over and speak with you.

She said thankyou and i introduced myself and found out her name and shook hands. I asked her if she was having fun at work and fluffed. I asked about the beauty treatment stall she was working on and found out that she travelled around the uk and i talked to her about travelling. I told her i was trying to work out where her accent was from and she told me she was from Romania.

I then told her i had ro go and meet some friends but what was the best way of staying in touch with you?

She just said Yes and i didnt know if she understood what i said then i said can i get your number? and she said no sorry then i just said nice talking to you anyway.

I have a problem number closing in day game when i was in Canada i felt like i wasnt building a connection and walked off mostly before closing. so advice on this area would be helpful. I usually cant think of what to say and fluff about her job where shes from etc.

I then approached a 2 set of korean girls working at a stall in a shopping centre. I used the same opener and she seemed to be more interested than the other woman. She had a big smile when i said the opener and i introduced myself and found out her name. I fluffed about her job and told her i was trying to work out were she was from by her accent and guessed Korea. My wing came over and talked to the other girl and told them i really liked asian girls which made them laugh and broke the tension. I was getting iois from the women alot of smiles and asking me questions. I then asked are you girls single? which i know now i shouldnt have done. I was going to tease her on why she hadnt asked me out yet. But she said she had a bf i told her thats fine you can bring him with you and that he could be our bodyguard. That good a good laugh again but i had blown it and ended up saying nice talking to you and left.

I was then in a shop and i smiled at a girl and told her she was gorgeous then walked off.

Any advice please on closing and on how i can improve. My wing said my voice was abit monotone when i was talking and i think i need to make the interactions more fun and tease them abit but i think its because im just getting used to this.

Thanks Guys

If you have a thing for Asian girls then speak to Nova he's your man!

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For real mate. The more fun the interaction for her the better. The more passion and personality you unlock in yourself, the more she will be attracted to your ballsyness and the way you behave.

The first thing I would say is stop thinking about conversation in terms of 'fluff talking'. Conversation is a tool for you to use to convey who you are and what you want. From the initial opening think about taking the conversation into an area close to something that interests you (if this is not already established through your compliment). Chatting to a new person is as much about them finding out about you as it is about you learning about them. If you look at http://www.puaforum.co.uk/field-repo...me-thread.html you can see some of my day game experinces and how I number closed an asian girl on my 25th Oct report in the thread (who I am now seeing a lot of).

A point to note is a lot of the preconceptions of oriental girls can be wrong. I was warned off escalating too fast with this girl on my day 3 and 4 with her (as they can come across as reserved or shy) and glad I ignored these words as I went with my instincts and got the results I was after

Keep chipping away Casanova at getting that number close. The worst thing is the regret when you know you could or should have done so.

hello mate, i've bin in the game for over two years though knocked it on the head for a bit (I had a swedish model gf we've now split, but enough of that)
It seems that you didn't get her to qualify her self to you, you went up to her and told her she was beautiful, of course she going to be polite your making her feel good.
You should of negged her instead... What is this product do I'm looking something for my sister etc?....listen to the reply then maybe something i've never heard of the product, smile.
You also said that you saw her then walked past her, but how many times? chances are she spotted you checking her out, if she's selling beauty products of her customers are women, if your going over to her and opening letting alone complimenting her, she knows that your trying to pick her up your starting on the wrong foot.
Again I think of normal conversation as real interaction not just fluff, she may of picked up on the fact tht you was just stalling, women are alot more receptive.
You don't really talk much about your body language, was you facing her or at a slight angle, did you appoarch her from behind or go in from a angle, did you get her eye contact and walk ovr with a smile or look dwn willing yourself over all this is important.
women are sensitive creatures, its almost as if they can feel the distortance in the air.
I gamed a girl in a shop I, over a counter I realised I was imtimadating her so I turned ninty drgree's, I had to sign for something and she dropped her pen, thats how I knew. do you look for signs like this?
women don't like to tell you straight they are not interested, they fear bad reactions, for example hurtful comments that enexperinced guys throw out, due to there ego being knocked, it's easy for her to make out she doesn't understand you because she is from oversea's even if she speaks perfect english or it may be due t othe fact you was using too harder words for her, me and my ex used to clash, because she didn't understand what I meant though I feel its the first, put it down to experence keep doing what you are doing and you will 'hit' your targets sooner or later.
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I walked past her once went into a shop to get a drink then came back and approached from the side. I think i could have approached better by looking over my shoulder as if i was going to leave. Im not going to start negging or learning routines im just gona try and tease them abit more and make it more fun. I was told before to say things like your adorable you should fly away with me and we will start a new life together.

Thanks guys

Forget about angles of approach. This is irrelevant and can turn a potentially natural event of going up to a girl to claim her into some high tech engineering excercise. As has happened to me many a time in the past, when thinking too much about 'correct' body language I have ended up filling my head up with nonsense and become self-conscious... thus conveying an overall uncomfortable behaviour. Not good.

Just approach on instinct.

Yeah agreed Nova - whilst it is important to understand the basics Casanova, don't get to the point where you are so busy thinking of how to stand, what to say, which way to face etc that you can't relax and be the cool, interesting guy you are and that she will kick herself is she doesn't get your number! Get into a good 'state' and then be natural, and I think you'll see some improvement, even if it takes a little time. Negging is okay as Kowalski says if needed in the situation, but again don't go into the set thinking 'I've got to neg her' - if the chance comes up in the conversation to be cheeky then go for it.

Once you have confidence in your ability to nail it and get numbers you will relax more and will start actually getting those numbers. Also it is good tyou have a Wing that can tell you things like voice tone..things like that can be worked on if needed too. Have fun out there Brother.

Thanks pal yea im just gonna relax and stay in the moment and try not to think things through too much. heading out into town 2moro with 2 wings cant wait practice makes perfect.

Enjoy Brother...as we all know, once you have the techniques in your head just try and relax in Sets and play it natural and although the first few approaches might seem flat (or might fall on their face) after a bit the 'material' will start to come out naturally leaving you to relax, look good and wow them into giving their numbers - or whatever else you're after! Let us all know how you get on tonight. And having a couple of Wings too is great to give you all a fun and enjoyable night.