Just gonna have to try and time it right, though there's never gonna be a good time she's had a shit week

Like anything in this life, there is no right time. Pick a time to do it that is convenient, and do it.

So, I've never had to actually break up with a girl outright before, things have usually just fallen apart or its been me that's been dumped. I've agreed to meet up with her in a few hours, and I've decided to get it out of the way, I'm writing this on here so I can't wuss out of it. If a relationship isn't working then I've just got to end it right? Its a lot worse than prolonging the inevitable agony. Christ this is gonna suck, she's proper lovestruck, why do I always pick the emotional ones?

I'll post again later, or tomorrow depending how drunk I get.

Good luck Dice

I don't think it's a case of picking the emotional ones, I think you make them. Yes there are girls more disposed to being more emotional but from my own experience and mistakes it is usually from the guy not being specific about what the relationship interaction is or honest about his intentions that leads the girl into thinking it is more.

It's not just words, your actions must be congruent also - you might say you only want something fun but if you're going on dates and staying over 4 times a week it says something different. Tell them what you want and stick to it, you might not get laid as much but you will leave a smaller emotional wake.

I'm with this. I think you have to set the rules early on what you are expecting yourself. I'm new at this type of honesty with girls, and it's gone down surprisingly well, even when they've told me they're not up for it, they've come back for more as they've maybe realised it could be good fun to come along for the ride (so to speak).

So I've just got back, that was a really unpleasant experience, went to a pub nearby her house whilst I mustered up the balls to get what was needed to be done done. The second I started to mention the topic, she walks off crying. I could have left it there but I followed her and talked it through, thought it best to be honest (but not too honest), said we'd still be friends and got a taxi back. I really don't feel great about myself right now, I know it was for the best but inflicting that kind of emotion onto somebody is never nice.

And yeah to be honest I think your probably right Dale/Nova since I'm usually pretty unsure about what I want out of a relationship myself I just seem to fall into them. I think I need to take some time to figure myself out a little bit more.

Went out on Friday with nova for a couple after work, cannonballed about 5 pints in an hour and then went onto common. Started talking to two girls on the bar using the opener "do you think its socially acceptable to carry a goldfish in ones pocket?" I have no idea how it went down since I was slaughtered but I invited them to join us which they did.

However being slaughtered I kept repeating myself so the conversation wasn't exactly long lived.

I've started to realise my failing is that I get too drunk to correctly function in social situations, its all cool getting tipsy and having fun but I'm really feeling I'm at a disadvantage being steamed all the time.

Went out to back from hell on Saturday, kind of like a goth / rock night, moshed about like a nutter, got elbowed in the face (consequently resulting in a black eye!) and I'm bruised all over, which frankly resulted in me staying somewhat sober since I was just having a right laugh.

Awesome! You managed to meet and 'move' two girls to come sit and chat with you. How many other guys get passed that shitty few words at the bar?

Fair point, I don't give myself enough credit, I forget the amount of progress I've actually made in this half year, when I would have been one of those quiet spineless guys without any courage to spark up a conversation at all, if even enough to come out at all!

Started chatting to a girl during that metal night in the middle of the mosh pit which was quite funny, got on well but she had a boyfriend and was pretty set on not getting hit on, kinda fun though.

So was out last night in fifth, the first time since splitting with my ex, and I have to be honest I was not on top game, not even close. Tried a few approaches, got conversation going, a few passing compliments here and there, expressed interest casual touching etc, but kept getting knocked back with the 'I've a boyfriend' thing.

I've heard this enough times to know its sometimes just an excuse, its kind of knocked me off a little bit. Just need to pick myself up and burn through it. By the end of it night I'd run out of money, was pretty tired and demotivated, so I headed back home.

Saw Jynx out, good to see him out an about again, didn't ask about his girl, gonna nut him in the face if he's back with her ha!

Saw Wes too, with a distinct lack of luscious locks, I didn't even recognise him at first!