Day Game, back on it.
 

OK so as some of you may have read, I'm back on the market for all those lucky ladies. So, what better way to kick things off than with a new field report thread.

Sat 14th July

I headed out round Chorlton to buy some food. Went to Morrison, feeling pretty chipper, checking out some nice ladies in the sun, nothing overly inspiring though. Then I went to the arcade and picked up some veg and was about to head home when I clocked this asian bird (looked Malaysian). We clocked each other, decent enough eye contact on my part, she didn't seem too bothered. Anyway, I carry on towards home and start thinking about how I should have said hello to her. I need to create some opportunities for myself, I don't want to be relying on the chick who gave me a blowjob last night for all my needs. I'm a single man and want to remain so. So I headed back to the arcade to see if she was still about.

There she was, so I went straight over:

Me: excuse me (she stopped). I just saw you before and had to come and say hello as you're so cute"
Her: Oh thanks
Me: What's your name
Her: ***
Me: I'm Ashley, nice to meet you. Do you live in Chorlton or are you passing through?

Anyway, you get the picture, we chatted about how cool the shops are in Chorlton, she asked me what I do, and generally we vibe well for 3 or 4 minutes about her being a designer, etc. She designed the dress she had on, nice. I tell her I need to go, but it would be cool to meet her for a coffee (thinking back, perhaps we could have gone for one then). Anyway, I get her number and I'm gonna fire over a text later on to remind her how cool it was meeting each other. Then I'll follow it up with a phone call next week some time.

Something I was thinking about after is that I need to crack on and create more opportunities. Don't let the hotties pass you by in the street without at least trying.

That's pretty cool, man. I would've been too lazy to turn around after her.

Opportuntities everywhere, man. Even in Chorlton arcade. Is that like a market type place?

If I'd gone back like you did, I would probably have over-thought it (why I didn't say hi first time etc) and it would have showed.

Good on ya nova

A bit like the artist formerly known as Prince...

Yeah, like a pedestrianized street with a roof.

I didn't really think into it too much. I just didn't want to make stupid excuses for myself and go home feeling like a pussy.


Haha, some chick who's been cracking onto me for a while. Thought I'd entertain it to get myself back into the swing of things. :hihi:

Ok

Saturday 21st July

So, Saturday afternoon I’m sat at home nursing a hangover and I suddenly get the urge to go out into the city centre and chat up some lovely ladies.

Girl 1: I see a lovely Chinese student girl breezing down Market St, I see her smiling away.

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and wanted to say hi as I think you’re cute. What’s your name?

Her: ***

Me: Nice to meet you *** I’m Ashley (I hold out hand to initiate physical contact).

So we chat about what she’s up to today, she then asks if I onky wanted to say hi, I then said I’d like to get to know her better and we should go for a drink. She said no, it’s ok. I say, nice to meet you, see you later.

Girl 2: A few moments later I clock a nice Asian chick heading into Debenhams. I follow and approach

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and wanted to come and say hi.

Her: no it’s ok

She runs off haha!

Girl 3: again on Market St (it’s a goldmine!!)

Me: Excuse me I saw you and wanted to come and tell you I think you’re really cute.

Her: oh thanks, err

Me: What is your name.

She cautiously takes my hand, it’s as if she thinks I’m holding a joke hand buzzer! We chat about her phone as she is holding an iPhone and looking for the Mac shop. I direct, she tells me she is going. I then tell her it would be nice to see her again, and we should meet up for a drink. She says no, it’s ok.

Girl 4: lovely slim petit Japanese looking girl with glasses with lovey silky hair disappears into TK Maxx. I follow.

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and just had to come and tell you you have really nice hair.

She smiles, and then looks away at the clothing rail. I ask her her name, she tells me. I tell her mine, but she is still looking at the clothes. I feel phased at this point and hit the eject button telling her it was nice to meet her, she smiles again. I can't help thinking I should have stayed, I think she was just shy.

What I learnt today.

Girl 1: She questioned if all I wanted to do was say hi. Perhaps I need to be more honest about my intentions from the beginning. I don’t ‘just want to say hi’, I want to chat for a bit and get to know her.

Girl 2: I told this girl I wanted to say hi, but nothing else, no wonder she ran off. Again intentions were unknown to her.

Girl 3: She didn’t seem overly receptive to the idea of a drink. Perhaps I need to frame the day 2 differently? Perhaps a drink sounds too formal.

Girl 4: I really should have stayed at this one longer. I let her passiveness/closed body language affect me too much. Obviously I don’t want to bug the girl, but perhaps a little more persistence should have been applied here. Plus point, I was honest with her when I complimented her on hair, this was good, I think she liked this.

Generally: I should have stayed chatting to all the girls longer (I think they longest was 2 mins), rather than allowing them to make excuses and me trying to get their number. I need to build more comfort and they need to get to know me a little more before handing over their numbers.

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24th July
I was in town on my own taking my cv to bars as I found out I'd lost my current bar job (bastards), it was around 9pm.

Girl 1: I saw a sexy chinese student girl walk over the main road and start to head down a side street. I follow here, it felt like it was gonna be bad. But I thought fuck it:

Me: Excuse me, I wanted to come over and tell you I think you're really hot.
Her: err
Me: What's your name
Her: I have a meeting
Me: It's ok, just stop for a chat
Her: I have to meet my friend
Me: Come on, you don't have to make excuses
Her: No, really I do (as she rushes off)

Anyway, no huge surprises I think. I can't imagine an already uncomfortable situation was made any better by the fact it was a quiet side street late at night! I wonder if she even realised what I'd said. Did she know what 'hot' meant, it was bloody warm tonight haha! Regardless, I felt like I was being even more direct than before. I enjoyed that.

I then head to Font Bar with my CV, I grab a beer and chat to the manager about jobs and fine ales. I then sit down with another beer and do some sketching.

Girl 2: about 20 mins later two girls walk in, both white (can you believe it). One has awesome stockings on and legs to die for. Her overall style is totally up my street, cute hat, cool haircute, pretty girl, looked nice.
Anyway, they go and sit themselves down at a table and I start thinking that I really should go and tell her what I’m thinking. I mean, I’m doing it in the streets in the day with girls, this should be no different. Bear in mind it wasn’t too busy and a fairly chilled atmosphere.

I sit there, and keep thinking of heading over, but don’t. I change the wording of what I might say, and start feeling pretty frustrated. In the end I realise how pissed I’d feel at myself if I didn’t go over, so get up off my fat arse and head over to them.

Me: Excuse me, I was just sat over on that table and can’t stop looking over at you, I really love your style (she smiles). I saw you at the bar a minute ago and saw your stockings, I love the way you show your legs, they’re very sexy (she smiles again).
Her: Oh thanks, that’s nice of you to say.
Me: what’s your name

She tells me, I ask her friend her name, they ask me what I am drawing, I tell them about how I’m getting together some ideas for painting. Perhaps I should asked her to pose for me haha! It felt good, I told both of them a couple of stories about art and ale, and the interaction went on for around 3 mins.

I felt doubts creep in when the target girl started looking at the menu though. This was enough for me to assume disinterest and eject. I asked her for her number, but she had a boyfriend.

So? Now I need to plough further through the negative body language and responses. It’s time to start pushing the comfort boundaries further. I feel fairly relaxed in the initial interaction, it’s just when I get a hint of negativity, I bail. I need to start treating these as tests that I need to pass. To pass, I need to be unaffected. Show that I won’t be swayed. Easier preached than practiced perhaps...

Good on you pal!

Aye aye, Hustler's back on the scene!

25th July

I went to some networking event for work on Deansgate in the city centre, and had to speak in front of 50 odd people for 60 seconds. I then mingle with loads of different business types, some of them hot ladies hehe. Good way of loosening me up for approaching some girls on the street afterwards I thought.

I left the venue around 3pm and headed out towards the tram station on Market Street.

Girl 1: Lovely Chinese girl with hot pants, long legs and high heels heading towards Deansgate. I had to follow, see what she’s up to, she leans against the bus stop. I go over.

Me: Excuse me I saw you walking past me before and I wanted to say I really like the way you look, you have a nice style.

She is kind of aloof but receptive. I ask her name, initiate a hand shake and ask her if she is at Uni. I tell her about the networking event, she tells me about Bejing. It took her a good 2 mins to break into any sort of smile. This didn’t bother me and we carried on chatting for around 5-6 mins. I then tell her I think she’s really nice and it would be nice to see her again. I prompt her to give me her number, she ends up giving me her Facebook. We carry on chatting for a bit more about football, then she reveals she has a boyfriend.

This doesn’t bother me so much, she was well into me flirting away, and we had a great interaction. As I walk away I thought she might be able to introduce me to some hot friends or halls of residence housemates. Either way, gonna msg her today on Facebook.

Girl 2: 3 mins later I clock another georgous Chinese girl walking along. I follow and signal her to take her headphones out.

Me: Excuse me, I saw you and think you look really nice and wanted to meet you.

She is cautious. I ask her name, shake her hand. I am conscious of trying to making her feel comfortable her, I smile a lot and am more laid back. It turned out she was only visiting Manchester, and was at uni in Huddersfield. We chat about both places for a minute or so. I then tell her I love her hair, and it suits her face. She starts to edge away towards the shop she was about to enter, and I let her go giving her another handshake, but holding on a little more to show her I like her.

Perhaps I should have pushed through the pain barrier more, but she was only here for the day… it could have been good practice though! This is becoming addictive now.

I freakin' love the way Asian girls dress sometimes.

This is good going on the day game! You're obviously enjoying just getting out there and talking to girls again now you're free.

Thing is though people are usually harder to stop in the street as they often have somewhere to be. I think it'll be hard for you to communicate you're not a weirdo (big assumption on my part, but roll with it) to them subconsciously. I expect that will come with practice.

Do you prefer this/have better results over night game?

Yeah man, it's a good buzz, for them too... sometimes (when they're not running away haha!). Sure they can be hard to stop, but this just takes practice. If you're unsure about what your doing, they'll see it a mile of. But so what?

As for coming across creepy, I'm finding it easy enough to communicate that I'm a nice friendly guy who just wants to get to know them. Smiling helps. I just treat it as a natural thing. I'm there checking out girls, and then I want to speak to them. This is fine.

Results-wise? I've not really been able to test this as I'm hammering the day game so much more. It's so much easier to get a girl on her own in the day, so this is a bonus, plus it costs no money, something I lack at the mo! I'm out 2 nights over the wkd in Manchester as Hustler's in town, so will have to get back to you on my night game skills... or lack of :D

26th July

I'm out in the city centre because it's sunny and there are definatley going to be girls out shopping!

Girl 1: Walking from Piccadilly Gardens towards the bus station. She rests on a bollard.

Me: Excuse I just saw you walking past me before and I wanted to come over and tell you I think you're beautiful
Her: Oh thanks (smiling)

I ask her name, she tells me, and then quickly goes on to tell me she has a boyfriend. I chat for a bit more, then leave her to it, 'enjoy the rest of your day in the sun'.

Girl 2: I'm in Specsavers picking up a prescription of contact lenses. Next to me is stood this pretty Japanese girl. I want to approach her, but it would be too awkward for her I imagined with the shopfloor listening. I left the shop, hovered outside for a bit, then I see her come out. She is walking fast so I have to chase her a bit!

Me: Excuse me, I just saw you in Specsavers before and wanted to tell you I think you're beautiful.
Her: oooh thanks, that's a nice suprise.
Me: I would have said something there but I thought it was probably a bit awkward as it was quiet in there!

I go on to chat to her for a good 7-8 mins. She asks me a fair few questions, and when I tell her I brewed some wine recently, she goes 'You'll have to show me how to make it'... BINGO!!

I go on to get her number, give her mine, then chat some more about what she's up to. She's off to Japan on business for 2 weeks, so hopefully gonna get her out for a date after that!

Girl 3: Saw a hot Filipino girl head into a clothes shop, hung around outside for a bit til she reappeared. I tried to open her as per the same line, but she ran off saying she had to go to work. Haha!

Girl 4: Was about to head off when I clocked a cute Chinese girl at a makeup stand outside a shop. The owner of the stall was dealing with some customers whilst she was stood there watching. I went over.

Me: Hey, what's this you're selling
Her: makeup, etc...
Me: Anyway, that's not the reason I came over. I saw you from over there and wanted to come and meet you, what's your name.

We chat for a bit about what's she's up to in Manchester, she asked quite a few questions about me, where I'm from etc. She was on a trial shift so I joked about me getting her in trouble with the boss as I was chatting her up. After 5 mins of chat I tell her we should go for a drink. She tells me she doesn't drink. I ignore this and tell her about my colleague from Hong Kong who can't drink. We chat some more, then I tell her I'm gonna go, but want her number. She ignores this and talks about something else... SO I chat some more. Finally I ask again and she gives me her Facebook. Hehe, perseverance paid off.

Good day's work, I'm now beginning to ignore some of the potentially bad signs like girl not smiling, or brushing me off. It probably all went better as I was feeling a lot more confident about my conversation skills, i.e. nice and laid back telling a few stories, and letting them tell me stuff. Getting into a nice flow now.

29th July

OK then. Sunday, sunny, just shaking off a hangover, might as well head into town for a wander round the streets.

Girl 1: Walking along Market Street, clock a nice slim Chinese girl.

Me: Excuse me

She legs it! Think I was a little too timid with this, approaching a little too much from behind her. Made me think I should try to approach them more head on. I head into the Arndale.

Girl 2: I see a lovely Cantonese looking girl walking along texting away.

Me: Excuse me, I wanted to come over and tell you I think you’re beautiful.
Her: Oh thanks, that’s nice of you.
Me: What’s your name
Her: ***, but I need to tell you now I am married.
Me: I’m not surprised, he is a lucky man. See you!

Good to screen her out the equation and her reaction goes to show that she was under no illusions as to my intentions. Bonus.

Girl 3: What looks like a Thai girl (nice dark skin) comes into view, she walks past me, I turn around in pursuit.

Me: Excuse me, I saw you walking past me just then, and wanted to tell you I think you’re beautiful.
Her: Oh, really?

So yeah, usual drill ask her name, chat about what she’s doing. She’s at Bolton uni and visiting Manchester for the wkd. She’s actually Vietnamese, so we talk about the differences in culture, etc. She is really enjoying all this, and keeps giggling. She’s very flirty and tells me she is shy holding her cheeks to hide the blushes. I take the opportunity to caress her cheeks.
After about 5-6 mins of chatting, flirting, physical contact, and both of us generally having an awesome time, I tell her we should go grab a drink to carry on the fun. Insta-date!!

We head out of the mall and I take her to the nearest decent venue. We end up at All Bar One. We grab a couple of beers and I lead her to a nice couch chair in the window (great for turning up the heat on the physical contact). I tell her about the architecture outside the window and get her to tell me about Bolton and Vietnam. I have my arm around her and play with her hair. She seems great with this, and I ramp it up more telling her she has gorgeous hair. Again she’s blushing away and I touch her cheeks. As we chat and joke around, I can’t help but start touching her leg. She tells me not to do as in Vietnam this is not the done thing. Fair play, but this doesn’t stop me doing it from time to time, and holding her hand etc.

We hang out in there a good 30-40 mins, and can see she wants to get back to what she came to town for, shopping. So I tell her I’ve gotta go and walk her back to the shopping area. I tell her it would be great to see her again as she’s a lot of fun. Maybe I’ll go up to Bolton, or show her some of the hidden sites in Manchester. We exchange numbers, I try to hug her, again personal/cultural boundaries are too much, so I tell her we can shake hands instead. I take her hand and kiss it. She shreaks laughing and runs off into the shop. Nice.

30th July

It's 6:30pm after finishing work, and I'm itching to get back into town for more day game action!

Girl 1: Thai girl strutting along in a leather jacket & tight jeans with killer legs.

Me: I saw you walk past and wanted to tell you I really like your style. It's really glamorous.
Her: Ok, thanks.
Me: What's your name.
Her: ***, I have to go to meet my friend.

Yeah, heard that one before haha! She walks off, I didn't try and stop her. She was smiling a little, I think if I'd chased her a bit more I may have had a chance.

Girl 2: Geeky Chinese girl, very nice looking. I approach her walking along side her.

Me: Excuse me, I saw you walk past me back there, and wanted to come and tell you I think you're beautiful.

Her: No

... and she walks off! She wasn't impressed ha!

I wander if I should now try and stop them in their tracks more, i.e. walk around them head on. Some of them are escaping too easily!!

3rd August

Phew. Heavy day of day game today.

Girl 1: Looked like a Japanese girl walking into Primark. I followed her and collared her looking at dresses.

Me: Excuse me, I saw you outside and wanted to come and say hi as I think you look really nice.
Her: Oh. Thanks

I take her hand while getting her name, we chat about her shopping, I ask her if she’s at uni here in England, I tell her I’m at Manchester. The she tells me she is at Durham. I tell her that’s a shame as I would have loved to taken her out. She looks genuinely happy and thanks me again as I walk off. Sweet girl.

Girl 2: Chinese girl in Aldi wearing a lovely summering dress and cool shoes. I want to tell her.

Me: Excuse me I saw you walking past before and had to tell you that you have a really nice style. Do you work in fashion or something?
She is not overly receptive, but I plough on. After 3 mins of conversation she is making excuses about getting her bus. I tell her it would be nice to see her and hang out for a coffee. I get her number. We chat for another minute or so, I exit. Not sure much is gonna come of this, she didn’t seem too bothered.

Girl 3: Cool looking girl walks in Poundland.

Me: excuse me, I saw you outside and had to come and meet you. I love you style, you boots are awesome.

She likes this and is smiling away. I ask her if she is at uni. She tells me she about to start uni. I think she must be a tad too young, and let her slide away into the depths of the shop as I exit.

Girl 4: Saw a group of Asian girls in card shop, one looked amazing. Awesome clothes.

Me: excuse me, I really love what your wearing.

She has a blank look on her face. I then turn to her friend and say, ‘doesn’t she have great style?’

Her friend frowns and says no. I wonder if they knew what the hell I was going on about! haha!

Girl 5 In Boots I see this Malaysian girl

Me: Excuse me, I had to come over and tell you that you keep catching my eye. You have a nice style about you.

She is receptive and we chat about work, Malaysia, the weather,etc. After around 3 mins she tells me she needs to go. I tell her it would be nice to get to know her a bit more as she seems like fun. She claims she has no phone on her, but she will take my number on a piece of paper. We chat some more and then she reveals she has a husband!! I joke that there’s me giving her my number when she’s married. She says it would be nice to hang out anyway, and promises to text me. We shall see (maybe she has some hot mates).

Girl 6: Girl walking along the street. Opened as per the day’s offering. She frowned and muttered something as she walked off.

Girl 7: On the same street. Opened as per, she stopped and looked confused. She said no and walked off.

Girl 8: Girl in Aldi. Opened as per, she wasn’t happy and said she didn’t want to entertain anyone today.

Final thoughts. The opener I ran with today was less direct, and there was far too much room for inauthenticity. By the last few girls I was just rolling the opener out and not really meaning it. No wonder they walked away or frowned. Of course, they could have all had their own issues, or maybe it was the way I was dressed hey. Regardless, I can see the flaws in my behaviour. There was not enough passion from me, although by the end I was pretty knackered and thirsty!

I admire your energy, focus and drive. Primark, Poundland, Aldi, Boots and a fucking card shop! Take my hat off to you man

Who can?

OK, so Fri and Sat I headed out to open some Asian girls in the shopping mall. Both days were very hard work. Fri I couldn’t even get into a conversation with any of them. They literally all ignored me or told me to bugger off haha! Saturday was pretty much the same treatment. This made me a little dubious about being so direct as I’d been telling them I thought they were all beautiful or suchlike. So just before I head home I see this girl in Poundland who had an interesting shoulder bag:

Me: excuse me, I think your bag is really cool, so many zips. Do you keep different things in each pocket?
She laughs and I ask her if she’s a fashion student. She is from Vietnam and we chat about culture and my trip to Hong Kong last year. I initiate plenty of physical contact touching/grabbing her on the arm several times. I find out she lives in my part of the city, so tell her I need to show her some cool places. We exchange numbers and I mosey on.

Sun 5th Aug

I can’t help myself but head to town yet again. I think about how I might have been slipping up. I decide I am going to simplify my opener. My direct opener has been complicated and a bloody mouthful to get out.

Girl 1: Gorgeous Chinese girl in Primark. I spotted her as I walked in, she is looking at hair stuff, I consider the situation and make sure not everyone is hearing what is going on (I don’t want her feeling too much social pressure).

Me: Excuse me, I wanted to come over and tell you something. I think you’re really beautiful.

She seems happy enough and we chat a bit about her hometown, and I tell her about Manchester. She has only arrived from Shang Hai yesterday! She has a friend ringing her, but she doesn’t use it as an excuse to run off. I wait while she chats for a minute, then resume. I end up telling her I’d love to show her around cool places in Manchester. She needs to meet her friends so we walk out of the store together.

I grab her number and her friends appear. I say hi to them and tell them that I saw the said girl, and had to tell her how beautiful she was. I then chat with them all for about 5 mins about Manchester, football and tell them I’d be up for showing them the sites as well. The girl in the group then asks me for my MSN add. Good to have some acceptance from the target girl’s friends. Bonus!

Girl 2: Asian girl in Aldi looking at stationary, she has the most luscious hair you could imagine. I have to tell her!

Me: Excuse me. I had to come over and tell you I think you have beautiful hair.

She thanks me and I ask her if she’s shopping for Uni stationary. She is from a city near Hong Kong, so we chat about that for a bit. Then I get in my element as we talk about food. Here I can really convey some passion, particularly as she complains about English food. I tell her she needs to try my shepherds pie sometime. Anyway, I number close and this one feels like a winner.

Girl 3: Back in Poundland to grab a drink. An Asian girl walks past me and my god her tits nearly have my eye out! She has an lovely mini-skirt on too. Sexy!

Me: Excuse me, I had to come and tell you I think you’re really beautiful, do you live in Manchester?

She is Vietnamese (they all seem to be in Poundland!) and we chat about Manchester, she tells me she finds it boring, so I tell her she’s totally wrong! I tell her I’ve not been to Vietnam, so she tells me she could give me a guided tour one day. Nice! I then flip this and tell her I’ll give her a tour of cool places in Manchester to prove her wrong! Number close.

Today was more like team GB.

Oh and as I was on the bus I saw some Chinese hotty, again with great knockers. She gets off the bus, I hesitate and then decide to get off the stop after. I then run back and find her walking down a side road. I catch up with her:

Me: Excuse me. I just saw you on the bus then and wanted to tell you I think you’re really beautiful.

I ask her what she’s up to in Chorlton and it turns out she is just visiting her folk’s as she lives in London. I carry on chatting with her about London and the Olympic park and it was all rather lovely. We part ways.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

you are a fucking machine man!

i find asian/chinese girls really really hard to chat up due to the language/cultural barriers so you're doing great given how difficult it can sometimes be.

10th August

Today I went out with the intention of being genuine and positive. I didn’t want to just go up to the girls and blurt out random compliments. I was going to chat to them and flirt.

Girl 1: 2 girls in Aldi, both nice. They were looking at cakes, I stepped into the situation - ‘Are you looking for some English cakes to try?’ They giggle and I tell them which cakes they should be buying. The target girl was preening her hair and loving all the attention. I tried to get her mate involved, but she was very shy, possibly as the target girl was trying to hog the attention. They decide they are going to crack on with their shopping, I go for her number, she has a boyfriend. Cheeky.

Girl 2: Girl walking past me on the high street grabbed my attention as she was so beautiful. I told her and she tried to walk on, so I carried along walking with her and finally got her to slow down to a stop. She said she was in a rush, but I ignored this and chatted some more. Finally she said she was going. I got her Facebook as she said she had no phone.

Girl 3: again moving target on high street, she had hot pants and lovely legs. Again this one tried to escape, but I ignored this getting her to stop. She stayed for a minute but claimed she had to meet a friend so she left, no number for me.

Girl 4: Girl in Aldi caught my eye, such a great hairstyle. I went over to tell her, she loved this and we chatted for a good 5 mins. She asked me questions which was a bonus, and I end up telling her I am going to take her out, so got her number.

Today my eye contact was a lot more solid, I tried not to look away when thinking and talking, as a result girl 4 seemed rather transfixed.

11th Aug - Day Game with a non-forum buddy.

So my mate had heard me chatting about picking up girls' number in the day and wanted to know more. He came to join me in town.

We went for a beer to relax ourselves and chat about stuff, i then thought about how he might be eased into the lion's den.

I told him I would approach a bird then he could watch what happened from afar. I spot a nice chick and head over. The interaction was decent athough she then decided her friend was ringing her and slipped away. Anyway, I told him this can happen but you learn to press on.

The poor lad was struggling to pluck up the courage. It really did remind me of the first time I tried approaching. Anyway, I do another girl in a shop and get her number. He could see that it could work, at least.

He's up for it again, I will have to get him into this, he has the will, particularly now he has had a taste. It would be pretty cool to have a sparring partner.

13th Aug

I was feeling pretty raw today, had a ridiculously heavy session on Sat night with the dnb blasting in my basement til the early hours, anyway.

Approached a couple of chicks and it bombed. I was probably too weak in my intent (of course they could always be in a shitty mood). Perhaps I looked like an oddball... who knows!

Girl 3: I was thinking of just fucking it off and going home and I see a cutie at the bus stop. I go over and comment on her hair. We have a nice chat, turns out she was on her hols in Manchester. I chat some more, then leave her.

Girl 4: After this I felt a little better and head into Quality Save to grab some rice. There was a lovely Japanese girl. I tell her she is distracting me from my shopping as she is so beautiful, and we chat about Manchester and drawing pictures. She doesn't try and escape, I number close, then she asks me what I do (this I am now learning is a great sign that she is interested). We chat some more, I head off.

Girl 5: Hot chick heads into Primark. I tell her she keeps catching my eye and had to come and say hello. We get into a cool conversation about food (a passion of mine). She says she has to go, I go for the number, she tells me she has a boyfriend and that's why she was trying to run off. Shame.

Girl 6: Nice girl with great body wandering through the Arndale. I ran up to catch her. I tell her I saw her and thought she was really beautiful. She loves this and we chat about Stockport and uni stuff. After a few minutes I tell her I need to go and would like to see her and get to know her better. I ask her name, take her hand and we chat whilst I continue to hold her hand. The tension builds and I let go of her hand telling her she has nice soft hands. she giggles and I take her hand again. I change the subject and continue holding her hand for another 20 seconds before getting her number. I chat a little more, then tell her to hug me. We hug and I give her a kiss on the cheek and let her go. She'd better not be flaky bloody pastry!!

Today i was trying to lean back more and allow them to speak. I wanted them to impress me and sell themselves to me more (flip the script). It's going to take practice to do this. Perhaps this will go some way to stopping my high flake rate. Although as I have addressed in another thread, my text game was fucking things up somewhat.

This is great stuff man.

Now that I'm living in Belfast, I should be doing a lot more of this daygame shizz.

Ive not yet stopped a girl in her tracks as she is walking, but I'm gunna go for it. Fuck it.

Try hitting on girls in the shops if you're phased at first by the moving targets.

I'm gonna try and limit the conversation time a little more to try and create more intrigue. The girl i was walking with and got the Facebk name off accepted my request and replied to my initial msg. This interaction was very short perhaps one minute tops. Interesting paradox when compared to the more solid feeling closes which have flaked.

Interesting paradox indeed.

She can gleam loads of info (for better or for worse) about you off Facebook though to slightly offset that lack of face-to-face. On negative side, maybe she is just a social network virtual "friends" adding addict, trying to reach 1000's of "friends".

Anyway, great reports -- stick at it, Nova!

as rebus said.. to me that just sounds like a girl who is bored and likes the attention and time wasting facebook can offer.

i very rarely think of a FB request acceptance and a reply as anything more than her maybe remembering who you are and manners.

not to say u can't woo her on there tho..

It's not that paradoxical in my opinion. The thing you've got to remember is you don't know what's going on with these girls. Their cat might have died, they might already be on and off seeing someone or in an LDR, they might be busy with work, or travelling, or blah blah blah. The point is when it comes to numbers there's a billion factors other than what you do that might affect it. You can mitigate this sometimes, but there's always flakes when you're going for numbers. Once you view it that way you realise it's nothing to really worry about.

This will be the second one I'm working on as a result of Facebook close in the daytime. However I might add in both instances there was a genuine reason for the Facebook. In the first case, we had no signal in Poundland so couldnt get her number up and as soon as we spoke on Facebook she gave me her number. In the second instance she had no phone as she arrived in UK a few days earlier (now she does apparently).

I guess the paradox for me comes from the lack of conversation with this second girl, not the lack of phone number. She is intrigued it seems. I need to work out how to play this.

ah thats cool then.

i'd probably talk to her about shit or something on facebook.

recently i've been dropping a wallpost like "hiii thanx 4 da add, jus wanted 2 say u r bewtiful xoxoxoxo".. usually gets a few likes as people know im taking the piss, her friends will talk about it like who is that guy and she'll tell you about it all.. of course it requires the girl to get the joke/mocking you're trying to do.

I went to the pub earlier to think about all my numbers, etc. over a craft ale. For this one my follow-up msg will be me poking fun at her profile/photos in a flirty way. I'll leave it til tomorrow though, don't want to be too damn keen eh.

you are too keen tho because you are thinking about not looking too keen

Not quite Refl3x. I'm too keen because I'm impatient and foolishly expecting all the girls to not have plans, or not play hard to get... oh and I haven't fucked for a month.

so whos chasing who
who is the person that is double thinking themselves

is she chasing you?, is she the one not giving you a second thought?
sounds like you are the needy one here and she is the one where you should be

Steady on. I'm not double thinking here, just thinking. On looking back at the way I have behaved so far in attempting to set up day twos, I have been too hasty and playing to their agenda. Thus I can see they have lost the initial attraction they had for me upon meeting and the initial texts/phone conversations.

Looking back through my text conversations I can see there has been a pattern where things just die a death, where once there was a big spark. I now intend to address it.

Instant-Date
 

Nova, try taking the birds on an instant-date when you meet them!

In particular, work on chemistry/tension/sexy while at the coffee shop or pub. This might help make it go further, might help cut down on flakes.

"what are you doing right now?" / her: just shopping / "let's get a coffee, much more exciting than Primark's lurid clothes!"
...then start leading her by the hand out of the crappy shop


P.S. for your delectation and delight, a Rebus joke about instant-dates with Chinese bird:
"what are you doing right now?" / her: shopping / "well, I fancy having a Chinese!" :hihi:

Rebus :detective:

Since checking out a variety of pua guru's points of view on day game, I've noticed there are two schools of thought on the instant-date with regards to flakes/success. I personally think its good from what I've experienced thus far.

I went on one a couple of weeks ago with a Vietnamese chick and it went great (see Girl 3 July 29th on this thread). I was perhaps escalating too hard for her tastes. Again, this could be down to my impatience, something I put down to coming out of a long term relationship a month ago.

I also offered an instant-date to a chick on Monday, but she said she had to go to a shop to change an item. This was something I was unwilling to take part in, but perhaps the Rebus line of, "let's get a coffee, much more exciting than ****", would be more fitting. I am now texting back and forth with this chick, so will be attempting to set up a day 2 at some point.

Fri 17th Aug

So yeah, it's one of my 4 days off I get each week, means one thing and one thing only, I'm out in the city doing direct approaches.

Girl 1: she ignores me and walks on

Girl 2: after walking around a fair bit thinking of approaching girls with their mates, I clock a girl on her own with a mega body. I compliment her on her hair and we chat. After 5 mins of good chat I tell her to give me her number. Boyfriend. Byeee.

Girl 3: visiting Manchester for the day and about to meet a mate.

Girl 4: Wow, it's a girl I chatted up a couple of weeks ago! She didn't have a phone last time or Facebk (she was fresh off the boat from China). I say hi, she recognises me straight away and is happy. We chat for about 10 mins. She has a phone now, so I grab her number. I ask what she's up to at the wkd. Turns out uni are setting up weekly trips around the uk til sept. Coincidentally a girl I Facebk closed last week, is going on the same trip... i wonder if they know each other haha!

From what she said all these Chinese students are pretty damn busy til sept. Perhaps I can use that as an excuse now for my high flakeage rate! Anyway, I tell her to hug me and give her a kiss on the cheek, she blushes and says that doesn't normally happen. Ha! That's the way I roll baby.

Girl 5: Gave me a funny look and said noooo thanks.

Girl 6: Taiwanese girl with a Spanish accent!! This one was haaaard work. This was a constantly moving set, but she didn't tell me to piss off. She did ask me if I was going to follow her and objected to me asking her questions, so I told her stuff about me and we started chatting while walking along. She was a feisty one. Upon finally getting her to slow to a stop we chatted some more and I told her to give me her number, she ended up giving me her Facebook. No worries, one of the best hopes i have for a day 2 at the mo is a girl I spoke to for 1 min and got her Facebook. Interesting.

Girl 7: Austrian girl. She is here on business for one day/night only and staying at a hotel in Stockport!? She asks me what landmarks she has missed. I then take her on a nice mini tour of architecture in Manchester and she snaps away. I think about how I might get her out that night, but she has work to do for a conference the next day in Stockport. She tells me she can show me around Vienna and we grab each others Facebook. I tell her to hug me and kiss her on the cheek.

Time to go home phew!!

This is how men should live.

They see something they want and they go after it.

Yeah, that'd be a solid frame. If you had already built some attraction and recieved IOIs, you could play the percentages by using an even harder line, implying sudden disinterest.

Something like... "hey we're having fun, we should get to know each other! I can't believe that you want to take back a dress to boring TopShop rather than hang-out with exciting me!... [pause, look down at ground like you would cry, or even start slowly walking away to create a sense of loss in her head]... right, [lead her by hand, as YOU have already decided] we get coffee NOW and AFTER THAT you can return all last year's clothes to TopShop in half an hour! What's best Starbucks or Costa?" *

* unless the shops are just about to close and it takes her ages to travel into town to return items! Ha! In that case, pushing like crazy would be unreasonable, as she would be very likely to say no AND be pissed off!

** fake question at the end to get her to respond; the fake question builds implied consent to the core agenda (going for a drink together now, Yes or No?)