has anything came from all these numbers you have gotten ? would be nice to hear a follow up, I see you are making allot of progress

Follow up game/date update

Since starting the day game thread I have managed to accumulate a selection of numbers on which to work at any one time and this is has been invaluable in my development over the past couple of months.

When I started this I would text the girls a few times with pretty average stuff and then ring them to arrange a date. My text game was boring and got me nowhere in my bid to plant the idea of anything more than comfort with the girl.

In the last few weeks this has changed and some of the girls have now brought a flirty side out of me. I have built on this so much so that I can initiate some good flirtatious banter, something I was at a loss with before. In line with this development I have now set about arranging all my dates via text.

There are 3 girls I am pretty much looking to get out this week, one of whom I’d seen twice before, one I'd seen last week and another for a first date. The later girl I saw today:

This girl I met upon approaching a two set over two weeks ago. We text each other a few times and this was all pretty positive. She asked questions about me so interest on her part was looking strong. She then suddenly stopped responding. I text a couple of times and got nothing. I then decided a week later to try one last roll of the dice and text her asking her out. I then get a text from a random number telling me her sim is broken. We reinitiate contact on Facebook, chat about random stuff then arrange the date.

I take her for a pot of tea in the Northern Quarter, all very civilised and nothing to report beyond we chatted and had a great cuppa (I was high as a kite though after 2 pots of the stuff). I was very much aware of screening her interest in me as I’d been wasting so much time on lost causes. I had been trying to escalate with girls often assuming me being ‘alpha’ would be enough to win them over.

Now I have toned things down and am playing a slower game. The girls I am dealing with are fairly reserved socially, so rushing any physical contact can be suicidal. I have had girls very attracted me running scared because of me running a dumb ass kino routine. Now I am a little more laid back, but am also trying to develop things like my eye contact and the tone of the conversation to let them know I'm not just looking to be friends.

So it was a good date, she looked very comfortable with the physical contact I did initiate and I just generally got a good vibe that she was into me. This looks worth pursuing.

It’s a slow game I know, but at the moment I'm trying different things.

Don't you find texts a bit of a pain to arrange dates? Why not text 'i'll call you soon to meet up' or something and then call a few days later.

You weren't being alpha then, you were just acting that way. Which I can imagine would be creepy as hell.

Why not just get used to touching people? No routines, not forced and not in a Saville kind of way. Touching is good, but only when you're doing it without thinking about it. Not a big clumsy hand on the knee during an awkward silence...

I've done what you say and agree, but now I'm currently challenging myself with the texting side of things.

Thinking about, I was not so much running kino routines. I was rushing the physical stuff, going in way too heavy and trying to make it too intimate too soon. This I assumed to be 'alpha', but instead it was just creepy and ill timed, and as a result freaked them out.

Interesting 'memoirs' of your personal development, Nova. Sounds to me that you're adept enough in interacting with women; you just need that bit of luck to meet women who you can really click with so that the fun stuff can follow on naturally.....

Follow up game/date update: Halloween clubbing

Last night I arranged to go out with a girl I met a couple of weeks ago. When we met on the street we had an awesome chat which was very flirty. When I suggested we go for a drink sometime she said her boyfriend might not like it. I normally might have bailed at this point, but there was a spark here, so we exchanged numbers.

Anyway, we met up last Wed for a visit to the art gallery and a drink, nothing major to report here. Since then we text each other and the tone turned very flirty. If this boyfriend is real, she is definitely bored.

So we ended up arranging for me to come out with her and her girl mates last night for a Halloween party at Tiger Tiger. When I asked her if they were all dressing up she told me they were 'all dressing up sexy'. I thought I should oblige and got kitted out in my blazer and shoes, but with a slight rock edge. I turn up and man she was looking fucking hot. So we chat, have some drinks, it's all going well. I'm touching her arm when we chat, all good, this then develops more as we dance with her friends, touching her back and holding it there a little longer each time. She likes all this. No creepy kino from me tonight!

We all had a blast dancing for a couple of hours. I wasn't trying to hit on her or her mates, just having a fucking blast dancing and being stupid. There was a moment where it was just me and her together in a quieter part of the club. I had my arm round her waist as we leaned agaist the wall. We chatted in very intimate proximity to one another and I considered kissing her... but didn't. I wasn't sure if she'd be freaked out, i.e. is the boyfriend real, and were her mates possibly looking, or more generally would she not like the general public seeing.

Regardless, she likes me and I like her. Hopefully this wasn't my only chance to move things forward...

Oh and a point to note. When we said our goodbyes she told me she loved my shoes. I'd always heard this, now I'm convinced!

This is beginning to happen. I have 4 or 5 potential girls who I feel I really click with. When with these girls I feel I don't have to think much... things are just happening now more naturally.

Man, in my eyes you CLEARLY missed a genuine opportunity here. Where was mister boyfriend last night while his chick got all dolled up & was out having fun with her friends, & you?

You should have went for it. I definitely would have.

Dan is actually right. Hope that indecisiveness doesn't cost you man. But if it has (becuase you know what women can be like - unforgiving), it's cool, just learn never to make that mistake again.

My ovethinking makes Hetext forum look sensible!

OK. So. I think I have confused two things here. When I first got back on this dating tip I was trying for the kiss on all of them. However because I messed up a couple of them with ill judged kino I have associated me going for the kiss as the issue. This has led me to stop taking action for the kiss. Last night caught me out as I was not expecting the opportunity to happen. In future I will be ready, and I will be taking action. There is no worse feeling than the feeling of regret.

Follow up game/date update: Back to mine

This morning I really was feeling very pissed off about missing the opportunity last night. Anyway, there was a bird who'd said she may be up for coming to check out the charity shops with me in my neighborhood after me selling them as 'the best in the world' . We'd been on a couple of dates ages ago. I tried to kiss this one on the first date but she wasn't having it, and the second I reeled it all in and didn't take any action.

So I text her to arrange and head out to collect her. I'm still feeling very annoyed, the more I think about the potential kiss I could have had the night before the worse I felt. Anyway, I met up with her and our usual banter ensued and I started to focus on the job in hand.

We took the tram to my part of town and went round the shops trying on clothes and joking around. So far so good. We go for a drink, plenty of good innocent physical contact with hands and her touching my curly hair.

We then grab Fish & Chips at an amazing chippy as I'd told her it was the best in Manchester, and head to my house. We go to my room to eat and watch a film. I then get the urge to start initiating stuff (I will not have that heavy feeling of regret this time round!). My arm's around her and then I stroke her hair, she's good with all this. Then pretty much as I'm going for the kiss she starts going on about how she's going back to China in 2 months and would not want to start anything with me as it would be as a relationship and not just fun.

After that we chatted, I tried to warm her up again for a kiss several more times, but she isn't having any of it. This one's not a goer. Shame, as she clearly likes me.

When comparing the feeling of regretting not taking action to, at least having tried. I know which I prefer!