I've been getting lid recently without saying anything don't really know how must have been "the look"

I do believe it's Sun Tzu and the emphasis is knowing yourself...

Thanks Kowalski! I guess Sun Tzu had all the HBs he could handle

I've got "the art of war" on my ipod as an ebook, but not got round to reading it yet.

You're right... My mistake... It's a bad mistake also because I know Chinese and I read the original version in classical Chinese. It's Sun Zi Bing Fa - The Military Rules. The emphasys is not only know yourself but know both yourself and your enemy. Sunzi said something like (quote from my memory): If you know neither yourself nor the enemy, you are bound to loose. If you know the enemy but dont' know yourself you have half the chances. If you know both yourself and the enemy than you have all it takes to win.

Oh I just read the other posts... Sorry for repeating.. And I made another mistake.. It was "knowing yourself but not knowing your enemy - you have half the chances"

like in chess if you concentrate on getting him in check you forget your defence and then you're screwed.

also if you know for example that your opponent hates to lose the queen you can use this against him because a threat to the queen is like a check and he's forced to move where you anticipate.

also knowing yourself you must keep an eye on the weakness of your defence sop you can spot when it's being exploited.

I believe though that there are many differences between the concepts in Sun Zi's Art of War and seducing a girl. In a relation with a girl the main idea imo is to lead her where YOU want her to be. I think that women are not natural decision makers like men. Since from the beginning of man's history the only decision makers were the males. So in other words whatever a man will do in front of a women will have consequences, just like mirror. Women follow men, it's instinctual, it's natural. You just have to show her that YOU are that person who can lead her, not the other one. So even though there are some similar concepts with the Art of War, here it is not about two adversaries, but about leader capabilities.

But now I want to go back to 60 years of challenge's method to say that there is one more place I disagree with him. It's about the so called "approach fear" about witch 60 is saying that it is normal and natural. I disagree, mostly because it can be a frightening and awkward thing just when you try to force yourself to do it. As I said before, I never force myself to do it if I'm not in the right mood. Because of this, usually I try to get into that mood rather than thinking about how to do the approach. And if I can get into that mood, then everything goes smooth and natural and I am not scared of anything, even more... I am relaxed and I can have that kind of powerful energy that can... how should I say... "let the people notice you are there" without the need to say something.

I was talking with a friend the other day and I was telling him that from my experience with girls I never liked the "talking" way too much, as opposed to what he and others are usually doing to "game" girls.... I like to create that non-verbal connection that usually is the most powerful. I'm good with words, with speech, I am a natural Alpha... I used to be like this with girls, talk a lot, make them laugh and like my company... But I discovered body language is the MOST important thing... The best thing is to say 2-3 words and the rest just through your BL. And as a man, you are supposed to lead the way, indicate the pace and mood of the conversation, lead her in all ways. I know that if I fail that... it's really not much I can say or explain to her in words that can repair it.