Hey since I've showed some of you guys already, I thought I'd post it here and hopefully get some feedback.

Ok you approach the set you've deemed worthy.

"Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something.
What do you guys do to put yourself in a good mood?"

They pretty much answer straight away with what ever the hell they do. Most say either go out with friends, drink or music. If one of them says something unique or unusual keep your eye on them thats interesting one.

"Thats interesting, you know I was just having a conversation *point to your wings or another set opened previously* about, you when your feeling a bit down and your just looking for something to make yourself feel good again, what do you really do?"

they talk more blah blah blah...

"To be honest I don't reckon it really does matter exactly what you do, just as long you do something different, like the other day I was at home and I had a free evening, I was just sat around and I thought you what I'm gonna go out tonight and have some fun. I called few of my guy friends and we all went out for some drinks. "

By this point your getting into a DHV routine and should be dropping in some of stuff they mentioned earlier, like going out drinking with friends clubbing and so on.

"We ended up going *whatever place* and it was great, we had an awesome time, I ended up talking to this girl there for most the night and we got on great and all sudden her and friends are inviting me to *some random fun activity I usually say roller disco because its happened to me* It was weird and you know none of that would have happened if I'd just sat around at home, has anything like that ever happened to any of you guys?"

If one them launches into a story then its time to lock in and let them game you for a while.

What do you reckon? I've used it in field many a time and it practically never fails to get the group talking especially in a club.

I think its a pretty good routine - for canned material.

Sounds solid to me, trust your results dood. These kinda things seem dependant on not just how you present the material but also having next stage ("getting into a DHV routine") material lined up to move in to. Looking more deeply in to this kinda sarging structure myself. Look foward to the demo.

guys , ive gone in with a opinion opener before, and it didnt seem to work

i walk over to a 3 set one being an 8 and one being a 7 and one being a guy i approach and say

guys a cant be long but just need your opinion on something, and i pull out the whole who lies more girls or boys they come out with boys definatly
then i say ok so who are better liars and again they take an interest and say girls definatly

now they were interested and the guy clearly didnt like the fact id come in a ruined his little party and shot me down by saying, what the fuck are you some kind of survey man,

now the girls absolutley creamed over this joke and bang that was it i just was kicked to the kerb game over,

any advice on how to avoid it or where i went wrong ?

cenzy

Biggest mistake was you didnt root the opener, you never gave them a reason why you were asking the question. You have to make appear you just thought of it that second and needed to ask because you were curious.

Also you left the guy get annoyed, in a mixed set its the guy you want to focus in on the most far far more than the women. If you go straight for the women the guy will Amog you out the set like what happend. Also make sure everyone one in the set is talking if not then their the ones that will get bored and try and steal their friends away.

Other things with opening to rember, Coming in with high enthusiasm and genuine curiosity. If dont really care who lies more then thats gonna show. Lastly dont lean when asking, be over the should leaning back away from them it shows your comfortable and consider your self high value.

Good luck going forward =)

oh i see. thanks dude well il be cracking on again from thursday onwards and i cant wait.