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Originally Posted by Mad_Fer_It
OK maybe we're just arguing over simple terminology. Plus you're reading too much into my posts. i'm simply debating that these 'moments' that people are talking of are examples of 'enlightment'. I, along with everyone else have moments of clarity...but actual 'enlightment' is something totally different - I'm not nearly pretentious enough to considered myself 'enlightened' at all.
I'm not going to suggest a book that you probably won't read, but this bit from wikipedia gives a very quick overview of what 'enlightment' was for the Buddha....it just seems very different from these little moments that people on here seem to be talking about.
Gautama Buddha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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OK so we're climbing out of our entrenched positions, phew. There is room for compromise here. I don't entirely disagree actually, some of these things do not reflect enlightenment although they are still of value, but some
truly do reflect a glimpse of it. Just not the permanent article else we wouldn't be having this discussion obviously! But just because you can't relate to it from personal experience, doesn't mean the other is trying to be pretentious or arrogant by describing something that happened to them, that's kind of a projection as people's experiences differ.
PS