Okay so I´ve been travelling with this 6 foot blonde dutch model (undoubtedly a 10) and after a couple of weeks of being in the friend zone finally sorted my game out and kiss closed her. I got an initial objection of how she doesn´t want to ruin our friendship and blah blah but was soon making out with her.


So anyway for the last 3 days we´ve been pretty openly affectionate with each other and got amazing chemistry, and last night I was so close to F-closing but got some last minute resistance. After a few drinks we were back at her place and after some heavy making out she was saying how shes not sure cos shes had some bad experiences losing friends in the past and blah blah. I countered with me saying I´d done this with loadsa good female friends in the past and I´ve never had any problems whether it worked out or not. She said okay etc and she said it would be cool cos we´re really cool people etc. but the mood had died and it wasn´t gonna happen that night.


So now its the next day and she´s all over me all day and the evening comes round still behaving as though we´re a couple (my arm around her etc.) and she starts very openly trying to make me jealous by flirting with this other guy. I was tired and not in state so tried as best as I could to show I wasn´t bothered (as she´s done it the last few days in more subtle ways and I actually liked it cos I saw it as an IOI) but after failing to f-close I´m a tad paranoid.


What do we reckon? Need advice on this asap cos think I wanna travel some more with this girl shes next level!! If it doesn´t work out I could always use her as a pivot tho...

how do u know it was to make u jealous, it mite have been she liked him.

either way, she sounds like a keeper


What the fuck?!?!?! u need to jib off the idea that u have to be in state to not let a girl make a cunt out of u. And what is in state anyway, is that ur fake PUA side?

YOU HAVENT FUCKED HER???? u shuda just left her, stop chasing and said

Your a knob head, Tra!

if it was a bird id fucked id say

Pack in flirtin ur actin a show!

she is clearly a keeper mate, flirtin with guys when ur there! id say go for the marry close

F-closing. Really? Fucking is a shorter word, it's easier to read. Why not use that?

You're in danger of loosing her now you've allowed yourself to get attached. Let it get to you and you'll end up a chode. Just keep calm, and fuck her. If you back off now she'll probably wonder what's up and it'll get to her.

You don't need to be 'in state' with someone who already knows you (a bit).

Man, it's called an m-close, get with the times.

Tip 1)...don't talk about or think about anyone in these terms. A 'model' is just a person that someone once paid to take some pictures of.

Like a piece of meat.

didnt even see this bit!!!

Ummmm not much advice here so prob shudn´t have bothered posting! I was under the crazy impression that this was a forum where guys help each others game out ha. Hammertime I like your advice to keep calm and just fuck her, I often find myself getting too attached to girls I really like and this often screws things up for me so cheers.

Glad to hear it's of some help. Thing is you've stated she's a 10 - that's quite a statement. So naturally you're thinking 'don't fuck this up' and of course that's going to be counter productive.

There's a lot of banter on these forums, that's really why I'm here. If I learn anything about picking up women all the better!

actually thats what the other PUA forums 'Think' they are for. It seems this one has morphed itself into a site that keeps its members level headed & in check, and helping them not to chase rainbows....

once u realise u cant catch a rainbow... maybe u can start buyin paint & make your own.

Good philosophy.

Excuse the pun.