I come from a background of AA`s 12 step program,which for those of you not in the know is a step by step program of beliefs and actions which when taken give you a guaranteed result ie you dont need to drink alcohol anymore providing you are willing to put the work in.
This has got me thinking recently with every man and his dog pedalling pua material,all with their own specific angle etc most just trying to get their mits on you hard earned cash.Is there a direct similarity in actions and belief systems between sucessful pua artists??
if so ie if you all do the same thing-take the same actions to achieve results,surely this could be put into a step system!!
ie for example if a chode had the willingness to take a group of steps other pua guys use, they would finish up a successful pua!!
I know that things arnt always as black and white as this and for all results work and time must be invested.But if there was some kind of action plan structure set up it may avert much confusion and much time wasted going in the wrong direction.
I dont know if this is a valid suggestion or just chode talk but i thought id throw it out there and see what people though of my suggestion

If I were you I would look at Neil Strauss, Rules of the game

Also, have you binned off your girlfriend yet?

Oh ive got rules of the game i just havent had a chance to read it yet:S
No i havent binned her yet as ive still got no car and no car=no move:'(
hopefully it will FINALLY be finished in the next few weeks as i keep being told ggrr

Don't you know anyone that could help you out with a car for a day?

Is there no way you can move out or end it right now - no time like the present?

I haven't been in this situation but when I decided to leave home I went out and did it - found some places worth looking online went and looked, got chatting to someone whilst waiting and he showed me a place that went on a month by month basis.

By the sounds of it you too are still going to be friends and if it hits her hard now her feelings aren't going to change in a few weeks time.

Cheers for the suggestion Evolver
However ive already thought about that.I do have a friend with a van who would be willing to help me move now!
however ive got tons of crap to sort which im selling,binning as i go.
Also the main reason im hanging on for my car is so that i can move to a way bigger town about 25miles away (the town i live in sucks and not many hot chicks,but I would need my car to commute to work.
So although i could move 2mora do i want to stay in a shit town i hate or hang on a few weeks more and have a fresh start in a new town that has way more going for it?

Hmm when you put it like that...

In my case I moved 30 odd miles to Norwich - even though work is 2 odd miles from the folks.

Main reason was to see more of my mates but 6 months on and since I have got into PU there are so many options. Last night for example I did my first salsa class which is 2 min walk from my front door!

So I guess make your next target the car!

Youve hit the nail on the head there Evolver.
Although it not a massive town there are going to be way more options in all areas.
Where i am living currently is so stifling and small town its awful,plus i know when i do call it a day with the mrs,everyone and their dog are gona start sticking their nose in my business like they always do
Id love to move to Brighton but its just 2 far away and without a car 2 expensive to be going to and from here for job interviews at mo.Maybe thats an option for the future
Yes just wishing the dvla didnt work at a snails pace:s

Well done! I take from this you've come out the other side! I know people that haven't.

The 12 step program seems very religious from what I've read. What if you do not believe in God, but want to give up drinking?

Pick up wise, sounds like you need to get to a bigger city, meet some wings, talk to girls and see what works doesn't work.

I dont exactly know what "come out the otherside" means.But ive not had a drink for over five years now.If thats what you mean??
Its not religious,its spiritual which is a world of difference in my opinion.
everyone thinks that it is religious tho.If you met me im so far from a religeous guy as it gets lol
The basis is this that through actions and a changing of personal beliefs you come to believe in YOUR OWN!! concept of a higher power.As alcohol has/had more power over me that anything else.This concept you come to rely on bypasses that need (ie higher power has more power than alcoholic obsession).Thats the idea in simple laymens terms anyway
Im there with you on the bigger city,meet wings and talk to girls bit.
Im feeling a tiny more positive that i can deal with living on my own,facing humiliation etc
Its still very scary tho.Its seems to me by taking the action no matter how scary is how you get the results
Only time will tell!!

Knock it if you want man,your entitled to your opinions.
But maybe a bit of open mindedness wouldnt go amiss??
Learning to live this way saved my life!!
So with that regard i think ill keep on doing what im doing thanks
ps btw does that mean Johnny Cash is also faggy??
Or the other several million people worldwide that also choose to live by the same principles as me??