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Default 28-03-2011, 07:34 PM

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I was watching a thing about Paul Janka recently and his technique is to make eye contact, introduce himself, make some sort of physical contact and ask for a number within 20 seconds and leave and he gets ridiculous results, he was secretly filmed getting 7 numbers off hot girls within 25 minutes.
I'd like to see that, would you mind PM-ing me a link?

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Default 28-03-2011, 07:44 PM

YouTube - How To Pick Up Women - pretty sure it helps that he's a good looking guy though.
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Default 28-03-2011, 10:48 PM

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Is the PU industry just one big Placebo?
Is the PU industry just one big dildo?


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Default 29-03-2011, 11:36 AM

Is the PUA Forum just one big Placebo?


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Default 01-04-2011, 03:53 PM

I think that PUA material has brought lots of interesting and useful ideas forward, its just annoying that its generally marketed as a "magic bullet". But you see the same phenomena in other sorts of stuff on the web like e-books claiming to be able to teach you to play any steve via guitar solo with one finger in 5 minutes or develop get a van damme physique in 2 months.
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Default 01-04-2011, 07:22 PM

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O.K, so I've been thinking about this quite a bit and I find that confidence pretty much outweighs everything when it comes to being good with girls. But to have true confidence you need to be be able to meet girls without the need for PUA materials, methods ect. Therefore it seems that PUA products are a paradox, by using them, thinking about them and wanting more info on them you are admitting to yourself you are not 100% confident, meaning they are not 100% effective(which suits them as they can sell more).
The other thing that strikes me is how close to hypnosis a lot of the products come, in terms of offering suggestive belief that it will work, which might give the confidence to make it self fulfilling, I think RSD is king of this. Anyway thoughts and opinions are welcome.
I agree with your post, but at the same time PU helped me at a time when I had near-zero confidence.

It has offered some signposts towards improving myself, and for that I am thankful.

It's all good saying 'just go out there and do it', but sometimes people need a base from which to start.


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Default 01-04-2011, 07:50 PM

If PU is a placebo, does knowing that stop it from working?
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Default 02-04-2011, 12:17 PM

Another thing to consider with PUA material is that as a general skill, seducing women requires learning concepts that are for many people "non intuitive truths". For example the idea that a women would be more attracted to someone who teases them and disagrees with them rather than someone who goes out of their way to be be nice polite and agree with everything they say, is not something that the vast majority of men would discover on their own.

Its interesting as I see parallels with my day job, which is coaching software development teams. I have to persuade people that (among other things) two people working on the same bit of code at the same computer is more productive than them both working on different things separately.
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Default 03-04-2011, 01:44 PM

To paraphrase David DeAngelo, dating/approaching women problems usually have much deeper roots than are first apparent to the guy looking to improve his game. Without the deeper changes - the commitment to address those mental blocks - then anything you learn can only be superficial. Pick up, imo, boils down to taking responsibility for yourself as well as confidence.

That said you can suffer information overload. Too many gurus teaching too many techniques that differ wildly. Plus you may feel you have an awful lot about yourself to fix. Too many guys can get stuck in the loop of "Well I'll fix that thing first, and that will give me the confidence I need - no wait, then I'll have to do that as well..."

Study materials tell you how to get confidence. They don't give you it. Experience gives you confidence.
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