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Default 05-01-2015, 04:34 PM

That is brilliant advice john_tobin - genuine and honest

The kind of help/advice i was looking for on here for a complete beginner. Cheerz very very much !
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Default 05-01-2015, 10:03 PM

Sometimes I have to do a few approaches in areas where there's less people around first in order to get the ball rolling. It's ok to do that, you just don't have to follow them down dark allyways.

I almost feel the opposite than you in regards to who I can approach because when I'm in form or "state" I can stop moving girls, but usually feel awkward going up to stationary ones.

I have went up to stationery ones before. The last one I recall a couple of months ago I just sat down beside her & said she looked bored & we started chatting away about studying, breakdancing blah blah. Then her fella came along & she said goodbye got up & kissed him.

The main thing is to do it often & maintain the momentum. There have been days where I'm on fire approaching every girl I'm attracted to & even being torn between girls like "shit! Which one will I go for!" & having to make a split second decision on who to choose (it's not really a bad problem to have).

I have found that after about 5 balls-on-the-line-stop-her-in-her-tracks approaches I'm in flow & can pretty much go for any girl I see (on the street, not following into shops or anything). That is a state I like being in & it would be awesome if that is how you felt all the time..

The truth is though you'll wake up the next day the same guy you were a day before. You'll have approach anxiety again. Except if you do it a few times a week the fear is less & less. Then you just maintain your flow by doing some approaches during your week.

I noticed at the weekend that I'd lost all momentum, only managing one approach, which was no surprise since I'd done very very little in recent months.

These videos I saw recently of Andy Yosha from daygame dot com out in the field doing approaches, or trying to, makes a guy feel much better about the days that he feels he didn't do much..





This is the founder of the company, & it proves in these videos that it doesn't matter who you are or how well you appear through marketing, nobody is a super master at it.


Ps. After three & a half years I just figured out how to put up YouTube videos the correct way. Life is amazing.


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Default 05-01-2015, 10:04 PM

Glad to be of help Mr Natural.
Your not a biginner as there is no beginning and no end. Its about personal development.
Women are different than men in some ways but are human beings just like we are. we all have the same feelings and emotions however Not one person (man or women) is the same and you never know what a person has been through or is going through in their lives.
Some women just want to shag. Some want to meet the man of their dreams. some might be arrogant. some might be sweet and innocent.
if you find a woman who wants a shag and if thats all you want then everyone is a winner. But as far as i have seen most women are put off by a man who just wants to fuck them. So you have to judge each situation and make an assessment of what the likely outcome will be. You can try different methods of "seduction" but no one likes to be played. I came to realise that not everyone will like me (no matter what) as I will not like everyone i meet.
and so if we dont "click" then im not going to waist my time. You can't have a great interaction with Everyone you meet and in the real world you wont shag everyone you have eyes for, but you can learn something from every interaction and have fun at the same time even if it is utter rejection.
I love being rejected because it means im trying, it means im building confidence and it means im finding out who doesn't work for me which amplifies the ones that are.
The main point is enjoy yourself. enjoy your getting out of your comfort zone. enjoy your progress. dont take it too seriously and have fun. When you are having fun ots contagious and all the girls love a fun guy. Have fun regardless of whether you pull or not. The best moments are when you stop thinking and are naturally yourself. thats when you shine, thats when girls want you. They want a confidant man. Find out what confidence means to you. Do not mistake it for arrogance what ever you do. To me confidence is when you are able to be yourself without thinking about what others may think. I watched a program about a man who raised turkeys tjis one i think [url=http://documentarystorm.com/my-life-as-a-turkey/]My Life as a Turkey | Watch Documentary Online for Free[/url]
he made a point that he learned the ability to act without thinking (as turkeys do) this is incredibly difficult for humans, but incredible when you catch yourself doing it.
That is confidence to me, and it can only come when you overcome any fears you have and to do that you must keep pushing your comfort zone further and further.
Sorry to waffle on
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Default 26-01-2015, 10:21 PM

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I know the feeling, but let's start from the beginning.

I think this has been mentioned before, but you need to be comfortable speaking to others before you can even think about running down the street after someone.

Before I even heard about day game, I spent years speaking to random people on trains, so the idea of speaking to someone I don't know seems perfectly natural.

1) Open your mouth, say "Hello".

Say it to the bus driver, say it to the old lady in the supermarket, say it to the couple at the train station, etc.

Get used to the idea that people won't go bat shit crazy when you try and speak to them.

2) Open your mouth, say "Hello" and then start a conversation.

Ask them about their day, ask them why they are where they are. Give them a compliment, should you have one. Make them feel awesome.

3) Stop moving people.

Do all of the above, but with people who are walking.

4) Stop moving people in built up areas.

See above.

5) Stop moving people in built up areas, moving fast.

See above.

In truth, I'm only at step 3. I can stop a moving person, but my brain dies when I see a shit ton of people. However, I've got to be able to stop people in sparsely populated areas before I take on heavily built up areas, because I need the confidence to know I can stop someone to begin with.
Where should you go from there I more than comfortable going up and complimenting??
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Default 30-01-2015, 08:18 PM

What ways can you compliment a woman ? How would you actually do it ? Any example ?
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Default 31-01-2015, 10:49 AM

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What ways can you compliment a woman ? How would you actually do it ? Any example ?
Nice shoes

You have really great style

I love the colour of your hair

or the slightly controversial "Cracking Norks!"


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Default 18-02-2015, 07:25 PM

Well as an introvert, I have started breaking down the approach process further. Taking all advice and suggestions on board on here, I have started doing small talk on strangers and have also started stopping women to ask for directions.

I admit that I haven't done as much small talk as approaching women for directions, I am aiming to balance the two soon. I feel I am doing well. I approach different types for women in terms of ethnicity etc just to get a feel for a wider audience. The issue I am facing is I seem to be approaching women who are in sparsely populated areas and I feel even comfy in approaching women in stores and malls. How can I improve on this ? Also what would be the next stage up from asking directions ? Would it be ok to ask directions and compliment ?
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Default 04-03-2015, 08:24 PM

Well as an introvert, I have started breaking down the approach process further. Taking all advice and suggestions on board on here, I have started doing small talk on strangers and have also started stopping women to ask for directions.

I admit that I haven't done as much small talk as approaching women for directions, I am aiming to balance the two soon. I feel I am doing well. I approach different types for women in terms of ethnicity etc just to get a feel for a wider audience. The issue I am facing is I seem to be approaching women who are in sparsely populated areas and I feel even comfy in approaching women in stores and malls. How can I improve on this ? Also what would be the next stage up from asking directions ? Would it be ok to ask directions and compliment ?
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Default 05-03-2015, 12:33 AM

If you want to make small steps like this in a progressive PUA Program then I suggest getting a book like Rules of the Game or trying the Good Looking Loser's Approach Anxiety Program.

You'd be better off however finding some like-minded guys (wingmen if you must) and going out to be sociable with the goal of having fun and meeting women.


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Default 24-04-2015, 06:54 PM

Is it normal when you go to the busy city centre and you just dont see any lovely women around ?
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