Hey, i have learnt so much,from studying,about attraction, av studied david d,mystery, RJ,all sorts of stuff,somthing happened tonight that i need advise on. I was at the bar and was appoached by a women,she said her ex was in here,and was with another girl,she was upset and wanted a guy. she asked me if she thort i thort she was ugly,she wasnt,i said she was an attractive women,which is true, and she was,saying i have a 8 year old daughter, i didnt really no what to say to that,so i just run a rountine but she just started to talk to somone else at the bar, i was the better looking guy,i dont understand it.I dont no what to make of it.

Thanks for the reply, was abit drunk last night lol, i think your right about using a rountine in that situation was impersonal, it was a mistake,and i have made that mistake before. I think i just failed to make a social or emotional connection, i didnt make her feel safe or secure. Telling me she had an 8 year old kid,it was said like she thought i wouldnt be interested in her with a 8 year old,i think it was related to not making her feel secure. Am also very good at playing it cool,not seeming to interested,which i think started as a defence mechanism,need to learn when to play it cool and when to show i want them.
I understand so well so many aspects of advanced game,learnt so much,but i think am failing at a basic level. I have been appoached before,and failed to keep hold of them.

Maybe you should not have ran a routine she basically was telling you to hit on her you didn't need a routine, It sounds to me she wanted attention and you should have give it to her and i think you would have bagged her.

In full agreement with K here. No routines needed, just believe in your reality and don't be ashamed to be a man and escalate.

As for you being a 'better looking guy'. You need to stop considering this when speaking to a girl. This is not important. The day I realised this was the day I stopped thinking - 'does she like me?' I used to walk past girls on the street and think this constantly, and in the process I was constantly looking for that little ego boost.

What's more important to me now is - 'do I like her?' Be the selector, not the selected.

Plain and simple if you liked this girl and she mentions she has an 8 year old kid, you can play the flattery card and score huge points, guys that have no game at all know this!

Girl 'I have an eight year old'
You 'Really,?! you don't look old enough'

Despite what the PUA community preaches, sometimes flattery will get you everywhere.

To be honest i only tried using a routine,when i new i was losing her, i aggree with alot of the comments made. Thinking about it myself i think the main reason is that, i wasnt really listening to her,feeling her situation,had alittle to much to drink and was thinking about what i could get out of her lol,she wanted attention,somone to properly talk to about this,to make her feel good about herself, i also had the idea of not showing to much interest,everything combined, i wasnt giving her what she wanted. I probably deserved to lose her, probably shouldnt try and take advantage of women in that situation anyway lol.
Am off to work soon, and theres a hot 21 year old thats been giving me the eye the last couple of weeks, so should probably try to make the effort and talk to her, these girls are hard work, if she likes me she should approach me i reckon.