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Default How to be rid of awkwardness?? - 30-12-2012, 01:08 PM

Im finding myself feeling very awkward around wormen recently.
I can easily open pretty much anyone easily and get a conversation going, i usually get some kino thrown in there asap and then i start to struggle.
I think its me wanting her to like me and that throws me off or trying to remeber lines that i never can.
Its like i meet em and initially it goes well then it just seems to tail off usually ending in friendzone or a phone number she will never answer.
I think i need to go in for the kill a bit or escalate quicker or play around more??
rather than trying to chat on etc
Example being the other day i bumped into a hot girl thats a m8 of a m8 i sort of know in town.I bumped into her and the m8 started chatting and then my bud had to go she was at a loose end.So i said hey i need to go to blah blah shop why dont u tag along. So at first shes all light up bit of hand touching looking at her ring chatting etc.The second i start thinking this is going rather well and say sumat stupid that she didnt think was funny boom! dead in the water. She suddenly started to look bored no matter how i interfaced with her i couldnt bring it back.I tried to meet her another time but she was busy i ended up getting her number but havent had an answer.
Can i get a bit of advice on how i can keep her interested after the initial stages of meeting?


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Default 30-12-2012, 02:26 PM

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Can i get a bit of advice on how i can keep her interested after the initial stages of meeting?
This bit is really done while you first meet them. If you get it right at first, keeping some dialogue going until your next encounter is easy - cos she's already really into you.

I get the feeling you probably care too much when you're talking to girls. You say you forget 'lines'. Why would you need lines? You're overcomplicating everything and letting it get into your head.

If the conversation is dulling, just change the topic to something your interested about. I do this even if the conversation isn't dulling - it just keeps everything bright, fresh and exciting. Bring her into your world.

Sometimes if I feel I've run out of options, I might ask my emergency question 'What do you really like, what's something you really love to do?'. Although really if you find yourself needing this, then you probably should have ended the conversation a while ago anyway.

Keep talking to more girls, more people, guys - you'll have some great conversations with some interesting people. Before long you'll have loads of hilarious stories to tell and you'll become an interesting person without even noticing it.
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Default 30-12-2012, 02:59 PM

If she wasn't particularly interested in the first place then chances are she won't be interested beyond the initial meeting. Interest is not something you can force. It does sound like you're too outcome dependent at the moment.

I've been getting back into this again recently and I'm still finding my feet but one thing I have realized recently is that I do not care about the outcome, I've put myself in some awkward situations but I'm becoming desensitised to it. The other night I'd only just met this girl we chatted briefly I held her hand, I went in to kiss her on the cheek. She ran off screaming to her friends shouting 'Oh my god this guy just tried to kiss me' I just stood their, shrugged my shoulders and smiled as for me it's not awkward it's just totally natural. I saw her again later at another venue, her friends all quizzed me about it then let me have some alone time with her.

It's only awkward around women if you yourself feel awkward, women don't often feel awkward around a man as their natural state of being. Get used to feeling awkward, intensify the awkwardness deliberately then be comfortable with it to become numb to it.

I agree with everything Hammertime just said.


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Default 30-12-2012, 04:38 PM

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She ran off screaming to her friends shouting 'Oh my god this guy just tried to kiss me'
This happens to me all the time, I think I should probably stop dressing like Jimmy Savile on nights out...

Although seriously this does happen from time to time. I think it's a mix between the girl being a total weirdo and totally dumbstruck that a guy has been so upfront with her and/or you just not being comfortable enough etc. Loads of factors, but if your just relaxed about everything then it's just their loss.

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Get used to feeling awkward, intensify the awkwardness deliberately then be comfortable with it to become numb to it.
This is good. You'll realise that awkwardness is only maintained in your head. If you fail to entertain it, it fails to exist.
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Default 12-01-2013, 01:53 AM

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I think its me wanting her to like me and that throws me off or trying to remeber lines that i never can.
These things are your problem. The only way you are going to learn here is if you try and have a genuine spontaneous conversation with all girls from now on. This will take a while for you to adjust to, and yes you will mess up and have silences, but after practice you won't need to think so much. This will give you a chance to think about what other action you should be taking in each scenario.

Remember it's the girl's responsibility to impress you too, you are not wholly responsible for how well the conversation goes.


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Default 12-01-2013, 05:24 PM

So in short just keep going and opening and eventually the awkwardness will fade away?


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Default 12-01-2013, 08:56 PM

Classic advice on here people. Just to add, keep going out, keep living life and interactions will get easier. At no point you should feel that you're "trying" to impress anyone, in any social interaction. Lower the bar on what you think is cool to say. You don't have to be talking all the time. Be happy with the silences. Treat every interaction like you're interacting with your friend, but obviously if its with a girl you fancy, you will naturally want to kiss her, hold her etc Treat her like your girlfriend.


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Default 13-01-2013, 10:51 AM

one question i have always found in any interaction.... sales.

Why.

Why did you get into that profession

Why did you choose to live in that area

asking why promotes a new story, it also shows you are interested. in the middle of them talking somewhere ill pick up on somethin i know about, ill probly take the piss out of them..

but 'Why XY or Z' opens up new streams of convo with anyone

People love to talk about themselves


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Default 13-01-2013, 11:34 AM

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asking why promotes a new story, it also shows you are interested...

...People love to talk about themselves
As well as do this, one must listen.


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Default 13-01-2013, 11:57 AM

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You mean like in this bit which you cut out of the
While it is positive to build a connection through commonalities, picking up on something she says that you know about, does not necessarily equate to listening. There are pitfalls in jumping on things she said, i.e. interrupting her, or coming across as desperate to forge a connection.


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