Alright went out last night, on the wednesday, and turned up to the club. No approaches, it wasn't really a night out when I would have approached anyway. Literally had no intention.

There was a girl there I like in my social circle but I know to not particularly get involved as that will lead down to my life story and repeat the same old one-itis.

Still after all the coursework is done Im going to set up a 'date', in the club she was literally surrounded by at least 10 guys chatting her up.

If you think im exaggerating then Ill have you know I counted. Like how am I supposed to handle that? It was also people in her/my social circle too so I couldnt blow them off or anything.

Damn, we get along really well in the few times Ive met her sober or in the day but again I KNOW not to go down that road which I almost slipped into.

Meditation has helped, I only JUST got back into it but 2 sessions have already helped me directly giving me that 'space' between my emotions and the enviroment.

Recently Ive become aware of my actions and what i do/dont do in general. Or at least I think anyway.

Must be more proactive!! Starting tomorrow DIRECT DAY GAME and Proper approaches at nightt.

Im going to use the summer to help think about what i want to do with my life, for some reason University or at least this course is not for me but then i have the FEAR that I'm just being a drop-out (as giving up is something of a habit of mine or at least was)

i dont know, i want to go to a better university and do English Literature or maybe just go straight for a career. Some guidance from older people would be great, maybe I'll speak to my uncle or aunty (they're successful people in their chosen passions and careers). This stuff gets to me. Im too introspective I believe or am i

Going out tonight in manchester though :)

Long rambly post but wanted to vent this stuff out and get some perspective ya know

My advice from the ripe old age of 35.

Career
ask yourself what do you really want to do?, if you dont know-- then line yourself up with a degree that gives you options (not sure english literature counts)
a degree does help open up doors or allows you to specialise- ie if i could go back i would do medicine (also great for getting chicks being a doctor)- great money, status, helping others too, can work anywhere in the world easily- in demand everywhere

couple of years ago i had a midlife career crisis (i work in IT) did a hypnotherapy qualification, looked at all sorts of jobs (that will pay well) all required a degree, medicine, etc- and i simply couldnt justify with a house doing a full time 5 year degree and being 40ish
so my point is--- if you get it right early on, lifes a lot easier
thankfully without a degree my line of work in IT can still pay very well


Girls
stop going out fixating on how many approaches and standing in abrs thinking right i need to approach her etc
make a conversation situational-- chatting with friends, notice a chick behind you and turn round and throw some offhand comment at her, get chatting to chicks at the bar is a good one waiting to get served
you are building approaches into being somthing big and serious--
let your only intention of going out- to be for a laugh with your friends-- its not a difficult thing approaching in front of them because when its situational you are not actually approaching.

focus on enjoying doing somthing other than chasing chicks -- hit the gym, take dance lessons- do both!
girls love a nice body-- plus it gives you value in yourself through self confidence, girls love somone that can dance-- combine the 2 and it goes a long way to you being awesome
girls automatically think you are either good in bed or gay if you can dance-- thing is both of those actually attract girls (the gay thing) in a non threatening way to open.

ive never gone out with the intention to pull girls never ever and i dont ever plan on it.

Hey Reflex (is that your name because you use Reflex supplements?),

I've tried going out with friends with nothing but having fun in mind and sure I have a fun night but I never speak to any girls, by the time I see a girl or situation where I could do it casually I'm either too nervous or not 'warmed up' to carry the interaction on/forward

But its definitely a way I'm trying to work on when out with my friends, you're right I do build up approaching into a big thing, I'm quite socially anxious in general.

And career wise, I've always been into film/television (as in writing/creating it not just watching it) but I don't know if I want to study it at University as its quite a slack course. And film school is wayyyyy too expensive.

I hit the gym a lot and I want to enter powerlifting contests (did one comp a 18months ago) as I really enjoy deadlifting/squatting heavy.

But you're right I should probably take up another hobby - which I might make into doing more filming more film shorts for my career but its my favourite hobby!!

Also I would really like to do something competitive, powerlifting isn't really, but I don't really know what that would be. I realised I don't do anything competitive but i feel that its something important on a masculine sense for some reason.

EDIT: I wouldn't say I've got a great body though as my diet needs sorting out ahaha

Went out Thursday with Sapmi.

It was okay I haven't really had a proper night out in over a week - Ive been out but not really to speak to girls.

Anyway, I did a few approaches and I'd say 1 went well and I got quite 'far', tonight I'm going to do some approaches away from the bar around the club and such like 'groups'.

Met some people from the ML which was cool and might meet with them tonight.

I mutually started speaking to some french girl whilst some random french guy tried to start a fight with me because I touched his shoulder to move passed him "IN fraaaaannce you do not touch shoulders!!! Means you homo!!!" was repeated in various permutations. I could actually tell she was kinda attracted to me but I was so stifled and 'low' I couldnt really do anything about it.

Then I saw these 3 natural guys with the obvious 'alpha' of the group, maaaan they were good. I was choding out and not approaching at this point so I just watched them for a while. Interesting learnt a few lessons about positive emotions and 'fun' that they were obviously having.

I understood more about lording the club, owning the club or w/e you wanna call it. Its like if you really feel like you can speak to everyone and that everyone will respond well to you, you can really have amazing nights fun. Also i noticed just much fun they were having together too.

Yeh boy, its about having fun and not taking it too seriously. It's all banter!

I reckon gaming is best when you're creepy...(any one know where I can get a long black coat from, I need it to hide my tuna sandwiches, so I can eat them when I am looking at womens in the night club) :bigeyes:

Just to add, I'm learning from this lair guy here. Gonna bring milk into the club!

Punt and Dennis - Mr. Strange - Milky Milky! - YouTube

@ Sapmi, aye I've a long summer to go OTT with this too :) We'll have to fit in some good nights before I go back down to Newquay!

@ Kowalski hahaha the guy I met seemed cool. Although I wanna make friends with some naturals who cold approach too. I know a few social circle type naturals but nothing like these guys.

Haha Sapmi you were the one who started speaking to them!!!!

bet you love them really

Milky Milky, Lovely

Friday: Met up with Sapmi and we went to lemars for some dancing whilst he approached some hen party. I made eye contact and looked around the entire place to relax myself for the night.

Joe arrived. . . late! And nothing really happened until we got to 5th, opened some girl with the 'random word game' and I got a pretty cold one word reply and then some guy just cut in and took them off.

Joe later said that people were being cold and unsocial tonight and I had to agree. In fact people I know in general say this too.

My First Ever Approach

Anyway I wasn't really speaking to people until Joe_Fresh pointed to a 2 set right in the corner and said to open with "I have a shirt EXACTLY like that". Oh my God. I tensed up fuuuuuuuuuuck!

As before all I'd done is speak to girls at the bar, maybe ask a question to a girl by themselves leaning against the wall or w/e nothing you'd consider a genuine approach.

After a while I finally walk over and bail, Joe's looking at me with a "Do it" look on his face, turn around, I say the opener

Silence. Tumbleweed. I hold eye contact.

Her friend: "I think you should leave"
Me:"So a good night?"
Her friend: "I think you should leave"

Looked at the girl and she nodded along, "Well that'd didn't go as expected. Have a good night".

WOW. My first ever daytime approach and I got a number and date off a hot Belarusian girl. Interesting. We laughed for a while, jesus, I that was pick-up myth or only if you were a dick.

Joe was telling me some of his own little theories which were really interesting. In fact we hadn't seen Sapmi in a long time where had he gone?

Upstairs at the bar, 2 blonde girls roll up beside us and asked us for drinks if they made out or something or other: Joe got right in there.

I ordered 4 waters as its what me and Joe drank all night. To the one i was with I just spewed a load of nonsense and teasing. Proximity, kino, EC, voice I had it all down on this one. Got a semi-make out (More of a kiss) as we were both fucking with each other over it.

Then they went off randomly who knows why, then we just chilled for the rest of the night.

In fact towards 2am there wasn't any real 'sets' as most people were on the dance floor, hooked up already or in groups I wasn't ready to handle!

You're definitely getting better. The more you go out, the more you grow. The more you get blown out, the more you grow. Sorry you lost me, I was harrassing some female somewhere ;)

Fucking, brilliant.

I laughed hard at this, it amused me.

Rinse, repeat. Again again again.

I forgot to mention I'm doing a 100 days of going out for the summer: what's a better time to get lots of experience?

Saturday 02nd June 2012

Did a little indirect open during the day whilst in Piccadily Gardens and it went okay but it was just a quick thing rather than a genuine interaction.

Anyway because I had been out all day in Manchester I only went home to get changed and didn't even eat so when I turned up to The Piccadily to meet Jazz, Adam, Darude, Terry, Sapmi etc (mixture of names and handles).

It was cool to meet more people so it's a shame i wont be here for the summer!

Me and Sapmi got into some NQ bar and were chilling, chatted to the barmaids for a while.

Ended up going straight to 42nd street and had a conversation with some girl sitting down who turned out to work there, must have remembered me as I got served straight away when I got to the bar!

It was really busy which was good, making little bits of conversation with people around me. I still stall when my wingmen start speaking to some girls, it's not like I'm too shy to speak but more of "What do I do in this situation?", tonight I did actually speak to the friends of a girl Sapmi was speaking to. Under the frame that its just 2 guys speaking to some girls, for some reason I always think its something more than this just because it's 'pick-up'.

I had one really good interaction which was with an blonde Australian girl, my opener was "You're trying to push in aren't you" at the bar, "Yes", anyway we got talking for ages.

My longest conversation/interaction yet I'd say. It wasn't as sexual as the 2set me and Joe had in upstairs 5th but I think I prefered it. Spoke about Australia, Newquay (hometown), surfing, places around Manchester. Then her friend came over I thought "ahh fuck she's taken her away", so i turned back to the bar.

I wouldn't say I was un-stifled or good enough or w/e to be chasing after etc. Then she came back to me and we had carried on. After we got our drinks I choded out, she said she's going to look for her friends but in a "Are you coming with me/ What do we do know". I probably should have #closed her but for some reason I thought "I'll see her again in the night". Bigg mistake, I don't think I did!!!

After that nothing really happened, we ended up going 5th avenue but by then I was so tired and hungry, I was getting cranky etc

Left around 2:20am only to realise no trains come till 5:55am, I should have taken James up on that offer to stay around.. . Only to realise at around 3:40 there was a Piccadily night bus at 3:30am.

So I sat in the station for 3hours surrounded by a bunch of weird fucked up drunk people and annoying gay/dykes being loud because apparently if your gay you have the god given right to be loud and annoying.

Progression

When I first came out with Joe, Sapmi and Zach I could barely start a line of conversation with a girl at the bar, after last night I realised that I was socially more flexible. And Friday I did a genuine approach, last night I was saying hi or comments to people.

Also even when I say "How are you?" to a girl at the bar or in the line and they ignore or give me some bitchy look, I don't even accept that anymore. I say "The social thing to do is say 'Hi' back". Fuck accepting people's frames that you can't speak to them.

I remember Joe said something that resonated with me too, "These people in here [5th] their social skills are lacking, they're young. They don't understand how to socialise particularly well", at first I thought he was using it to keep his state up in Blow outs or w/e but I realised I was on the other end of that frame of mind; "If girls don't respond well, it MUST be my fault"

He was right though, bunch of 18 year olds aren't exactly the most socially experienced bunch.

I can feel the improvements, out tonight again and I will definitely do another genuine approach. No bar/club switching this time as it takes me about 2hours to feel comfortable enough in the clubs tbh.

Haa thanks mate, I will do! Tonight I plan on going the hardest I've gone since I started. Before turning up and speaking to people at the bar, making EC with randoms was enough for me. But tonight definitely the most action I've ever taken.

:)

Some things I was speaking to Sapmi, Joe and mentioned to Jazz I think whilst on nights out:

Dr.Dre - Next Episode Shoot out feat. Snoop Dogg ( Up in Smoke tour 2001) - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkBU3aYsf0Q

4/100

Sunday 03rd June 2012

Today I woke up for a while, met a girl for a bit - she was with a friend - so I kept it social but set up a 1 on 1 date for tuesday or whenever. She has all kinds of weird shit-tests or whatever and asks the craziest shit which I never even acknowledge.

Passed out when i got home from being so sleep deprived the night before and woke up around 9pm still exhausted and really started looking for numerable excuses to not go out "I have to wait till 4:15 for the train, its cold and boring for that time" etc etc. Take a shower and I'm slightly more awake and remember it's the 100day challenge I'm doing, so I gotta.

So off I go, the bouncers are already starting to remember me as I go in or so it seemed any.

Inside it is insanely busy - 5th avenue foam party. I notice I'm nowhere near as frozen up and tense as I used to be when I first went out alone. So I walk through and tbh I can't actually remember it that well. Danced for a bit and actually had a blast it probably my favourite night out so far; Friday was really good and Saturday I was just not in the mood but this night beat it due to being a lone wolf night.

Spoke to 2 girls at the bar whilst getting my water. Walking around, smiling at people. Even randomly handshaking a few guys. I dont remember any sort of approach until I got upstairs and sat down on the sofa and made a remark to some girl next to me then I just chilled enjoying the moment.

Group of guys next to me, say "Hey whats up" to them and for some reason I thought "They probably do pick-up", 2 girls sit next to me and one of the guys gets up pulls a chair next to them and they politely tell him to fuck off and EVERYBODY around him laughs at him. Wow respect for him, that was harsh but maybe I was right about them being Poo-ah guys.

Still sat there and 3 girls sit next to me on the other side, make a remark to them about something or other, little minute or so chat. After they leave the guy earlier says "Wow what did you say that made them leave? Worse than mine?". Told him I didn't and we chatted for a while then I got up and went to the bar.

Started speaking to a hot blonde girl. Opener: "Hey come here, there's a gap", so she could get to the bar quicker. Got chatting, starting to understand and get into the fact you have to keep throwing words/statements/questions out there until the conversation gets going.

She seemed into me, introduced myself, and she re-initiated the conversation asking questions about me etc. EC was good, voice was great - EC could have been better though. Then she started talking about us being a 'team' to get served and to use my manly charm to get served as the woman wouldn't serve us for some reason (She must have served everybody around us and people coming to and from for ages). Introduced my name.

I realised right there I need to make it more sexual, tell her she's pretty or w/e. I didn't really know where to take it either and it was like Saturday night; the girl saying she's going back to her friends but, so it it felt, that she was really saying "DO SOMETHING". Think I need to just push it forward, try things out like joining the group, befriending them then asking to borrow her/isolate her or even just saying "Lets go dance".

She went off and 3 guys behind me, I start speaking to them, just laughing chatting shit and because Im drinking water they insist on buying me a drink and tipping my water over there head? No idea but it was funny as fuck and we were joking around for fucking ages.

Needing to go out with people for a good night? PFFT tonight was awesome, then after that I just ran into the heaving dancefloor and raved my tips off, smiling singing at people as I walked passed.

After this I saw Sapmi, Tricks and Swipe and swipe said he's bootcamp me or something. Which is cool as Im grateful for any help.

Oh yeah, thanks Sapmi you've been a great help on my journey! Just to let you know ;)

After this I didn't really do much, wait I remember earlier I did do another approach at the bar which involved the coming back later to talk about w/e we spoke about.

Man I need to start closing, escalating it into real interactions and approaching girls throughout the club whilst they're with their friends rather than just at the bar.

- K-closing, number closing

- Making it so I'm 'with' the girl rather than the guy chatting to her whilst her friends wait for her to finish.

- Starting conversations with girls in groups around the bar; its not even a big deal. Joe_Fresh was just persistent without being overbearing to get me to do the approach which is what I need for my first few newbie approaches*

* Rather than someone saying it once, me stuttering and them being like "Oh okay w/e" or someone acting better than me, Joe was doing it as bro-to-bro whilst we joked around.

Anyway all of this was in the space of 2hours alone and it was a blast. Long post but I thought I'd try typing stream-of-consciousness for a change with the whole night typed up as opposed to summing up and blurbing it.

Night.

5/100

Monday 4th June 2012

Lying in bed till about 11:30pm after numerous texts and missed calls to go to 5th for a birthday party, there was like 20 or so of us. I get ready and run down to the train (the 11:35pm train. . .)

Im dressed like shit in dirty, un-ironed clothes and unshowered. Get talking to 2 guys in the mentally busy line as I was meeting everyone inside, we made friends and one of them didn't have his ID. By the time we got in we were back-patting and high-fiving on the fact he got in and 3 chicks had a bitch fight.

Inside I walk downstairs and a girl is walking along-side of me, start speaking and her friend turns around. Chat chat chat. Commenting on some girls hair or whatever. Already having a fucking blast. Solo sober nights fucking rock.

Go upstairs and see a few friends, then I see James from ML we sit down at the sofas and 3 girls sit down near us and one had a rose. I comment on it and we're chatting, playful banter or w/e.

Then her friend sits between us, I engage the friend who's furthest away (dont want her getting bored) and we're all doing faux accents messing around chatting complete shit.

The friend goes and James is speaking to the girl I first opened. End up chatting about places around Manchester and north/south stuff, she kept on trying to talka bout negative shit which I cut topic.

I remember Jeffy once said "When you say a girl's name they look at you in disbelief at the fact you remembered it", every interaction I've had where Ive said their name their eyes have literally glowed.

Anyway, I get the girls number, chat a little bit more as I feel a bit cheap doing the number 'n' run, then say "Give me a kiss". Quick peck and I go off to find James as he had already gone after the girl's bf had come along.

Down looking for friends, smiling, eye contacting people, find friends and spent the rest of the night mainly with them. Still couldn't really open with them as suddenly I feel like on judged and outcome based etc.

Over by the far end bar I speak to some girl "Hey hows your night going?". Off response. So I bust on her a little for it in a playful way, get chatting. Get her a space at the bar but by leading rather than supplicating. Same thing happened, I didn't switch from guy she's speaking to whilst her friends wait for her to joining/being with her.

Then I bought 6 drinks and necked them one after the other (Im a downing champion actually) then just had fun for the night as it was my friends Bday - the reason there was 20 of us - although I was still chatting to people around etc etc

I used to never have fun in clubs at night at all, even when I used to go out a lot. I'd just get extremely drunk to make up for the fact I couldn't really even have any fun with friends whilst there (although obviously I could during the day etc) but yeah most nights I'd actually be quite quiet and withdrawn unless I was paraletic to point I wouldn't remember any of the night.

Now I'm genuinely having amazing nights whilst being dressed like shit and sober, even alone for a lot of it. Also at the beginning of this journal or even before this I might turn up and I'd be like "Oh that was good as turned up to the club/said "Hi" to some girl" but now I'm having fun nights out.

Must make journal more readable or laid out better.

EDIT: I got into the club at 00:30am and it closed at 02:30am and this was with no pre-drink or party. Out of bed at 11:30 ran for the train etc. I like giving good context and my headspace in these journals/FR's.

6/100

Tuesday 5th June 2012

Stayed in tonight, actually stayed in all day in bed, lounging around.

Its fucking raining its tits off and 6days in a row ( I went out wednesday but only to turn up not app.) is pretty good. Today was a rest day for me - that's my rationalisation!!

But yeah cba with a new club (trying out Tiger Tiger) and raining then probably the long wait for the train too.

Tomorrow though, Im buzzing I can't fucking wait. The passed 2 days I have literally exploded in the club, at least by my standards. I can't wait till I can open groups generally around the club either.

Also upstairs in 5th there are these sofas and if you sit in the middle you can literally just wait and open every set of girls that sit on either side of you. And for some reason 90% of the time its always girls that sit down on them. Probably the easiest place to game there.

Question

Is tapping a girl on the shoulder a bad thing? 2 wings have told me its annoying to girls yet I haven't seen any visible annoyance from girls as of yet.

Seems like it's a small, ridiculous question but I'm humble enough to admit I may be overlooking a girls annoyance. Also even if its just a 1% annoyance, that's -1% before I've even said a word.

In fact, I've had a few girls tap me on the shoulder to speak to me and I never found it annoying unlike grabbing girls etc which girls hate.

It's only annoying if you're not worthy of talking to them and are generally an annoying person.

As you are learning to become confident in yourself and build on your intentions, what do you think the answer would be?

I more of mean when I do the tap to get their attention do they think "Ah who the fuck is tapping me?" then see me.

Or

Is it "Oh who's this". The very action rather than how I am after it (even if you mean literally straight after)

In my opinion tapping on the shoulder is a little weak. Girls need a firm hold from you, start with physical contact and escalate this on and off through your interaction.

Project confidence until you're confident. Then you'll have it naturally.

Once you have confidence, all these little things that you're over thinking and looking for others to tell you the answer will just melt away. You won't even think about where to touch, what to say etc. Get the confidence mastered, the rest should flow nicely.

7/100

Wednesday 6th June 2012

Was sitting on FB glazed over the computer at like 12:20am talking to some friend about clubbing, as I planned to stay in (Manchester can seem like such a big deal with the train home, something about knowing you can't go home w/e you want that puts you off).

Told my friend I wanted to go out.

Friend: Go out then.

I was already superman-ed into being dressed in some skanky shirt lying on the floor, filthy.

Got the club, in Bolton, it was fucking empty other than my friends. Just a night of turning up which is my only criteria for success. Had a blast all night. No drinking, sober remember, until some friends bought me about 4 shots and 5 drinks, had a go on the punch machine and danced like a mong for all of it.

Now I don't like to mention every conversation I have with a girl when I know them as 'gaming' but I did speak to a girl that seemed a little into me.

Also during the night I was just chilling leaning against the wall, as crazy dancing tires you out, this girl I kinda like (and could probably get with if I had enough 'game') kept coming up to me a lot. Saying nonsensical words, drinking her drink, random commands to play JB "Baby" which is an awesome song, at the end of the night she came was a bit more touchy feely - such as shoving her hand down my shirt.

But she's the kinda girl who speaks to every guy on a night out, you can tell she's just enjoying the fun and validation and who wouldn't? I ain't being butt hurt about it.

So I guess it's like i don't really try with her, properly that is.

I remember someone saying "The 9's are the easiest to speak and flirt with as they know the closing is the hard part", she fits neatly into this. I mentioned her before; at least 10 guys (the same guys usually) who follow her around hitting on her every night.

So yeah just a fun night out. Out with Sapmi tomorrow in 5th. I know this FR sounded like a bit pointless but its more for me to look back and be like "Oh thats what I was like 6months ago" or more optimistically, "HA! I was like that back then? I fucked those 2 boobies last night" but who knows

Night.

EDIT: Completely irrelevant; in the takeaway on the way home, I was with my friend who is Bi and we were pointing at another friend (who's gay but says he's Bi) Shouting "hahaha bender! You're way more gay than him, gay boy gay boy!!" and other permutations of the topic. I don't know why that was so funny but I nearly had a breakdown from laughing so hard.

8/100

Thursday 7th June 2012

Went out with Sapmi to The Factory which is a place I'd never been to. New club; scary. It was basically a dance-floor and I didn't really do any approaching. Other than to one or 2 girls at the bar.

Also I'm still stiff when it comes to being with wings but I do see its benefits and its a personal problem rather than anything exterior.

After Sapmi left I went 5th but still didn't do any there for the hour I was in there.

Then on the way home a hooker offered me sex for £20, she was near the gay village, 'she' in all probability was a 'he'.

I went home.

20 quid? WHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????????

hahahaha

I think its Princess street, the part that runs adjacent (is that the word?) to the Gay Village.

Just do a few laps along there at the end of an unsuccessful night Sapmi :P

Good call mate! It's one thing paying for sex but paying at that low rate from a street hooker near the gay village...NOT a good idea. Funny stuff. I'll give you a shout tomorrow. Hope 5th Av goes well.

9/100

Friday 8th June 1012

Went out to 5th with Sapmi.

I wasn't approaching. That's my thing with wings/friends I get way too comfortable. Also it seems to take me a few hours to feel relaxed in the environment BUT I want to be approaching as soon as I enter the club.

I remember one opener I did whilst waiting for Sapmi was by the stairs, I was messing around and said "ID's ladies", they actually thought I was a bouncer. Its a bit lame but the more I go to the clubs the more I think "What Im out here to do is hardly weird or 'bad' compared to the endless shit you notice when sober".

Although this is on a logical level not emotional - otherwise I'd be approaching more :P

Anyway I spoke to a few of the sets Sapmi was speaking to. Some cute blonde girls but I got the feeling they just wanted some of Sapmi's cigarette so I just busted on them telling them to tell me jokes and calling them Sophie (no idea what their name was). Apparently one of the girls looked interested in me but I think it was the cigarette :P

Had a good interaction with a few people but I feel myself not considering them approaches any more, far too easy. So I guess I am 'improving' on some level. In fact I did do a sort of approach with a 2 set then bailed straight after the opener because I genuinely didn't realise what i was doing haha.

In the quieter area spoke to both groups of girls on either side of me but again i don't consider these approaches anymore.

By the end of the night I was way more at ease with people around me, saw that natural guy out again and was just feeling far more loose and relaxed. Hopefully that is something that will speed up with time.

Progression

Okay so far my goal has been to turn up. Now I'm changing it to turn up and approaching as soon as I enter.

Also for the next whole week, I'm making it so I do 1 proper approach each night like the one I did with Joe. Its all gotta be as soon as I enter.

Tonight is all about building up to that one big beautiful approach. Straight from the get-go. I understand I wont feel comfortable till the end of the night. Accept it and carry on

Don't be afraid to approach more than what you are doing. When you start this sort of thing you need to become a but of an approach machine. This is so you can get as many interactions with women as possible and become an approach machine.

You can do it in one night. Approach the first girl you see. If you want advice on how to break through that zone please see this

http://www.puaforums.co.uk/field-rep...rtist-pt1.html

These are my field reports from a few years ago. Yes it's high energy, but gets you out of your shell. Also try to get a copy of flawless natural by tim RSD. Classic just to get you in state. Get into approach mode more, then you can work on the seduction part. This could be sorted in one night! In fact sort this in half a night, then we can go into escalation/ seduction.

Approaching/opening is the hardest part of this. The rest is easier unless your senile like me (now where is my coat again?)

Haha yeah my approaching is awful. I realised half the time its not even 'AA', its like my body and mind just won't turn around or do it.

I'll sort it out tonight and read your journal :) Thanks for the advice Mark

What the fuck Sapmi, you used to have trouble opening? I am inspired!

10/100

Saturday 10th June 2012

Went to meet Uber for the first real time for a night out. Chatted to a girl whilst i waited for the train but it was just chodey talk, q&a after q&a until I felt like too much of a chode to carry it on.

Met uber outside Printworks, never been here for a night out, before we've even got in he's already hit on a few girls. We get into Norwegian Blue, he speaks to a few girls even a really smooth dance opener where I nearly spat my drink out from surprise at his dance skills.

Think I managed to say Hi to one girl in there? Haha

Onto another bar in Printworks and pretty much the whole time in that bar I just spoke to the friend(s) of the girls Uber spoke to. One girl was okay we got chatting but she just started texting and phoning people whilst talking to me. Rude. So yeah the whole night was like that really. High-fived a tall hot blonde, I mean I personally don't like that stuff but anything to get me out of this anxiety.

The ironic thing being that this hesitance and thinking about it all is what was causing me to not speak to girls. Relax, feel loose and then do your thang.

Back into NB for Uber to find some girl, and a group of like 3/4 girls I offered to take a photo for them which again is kinda lame.

I think I need to come up with a few 'scripted' low pressure openers like the ID thing, Photo thing etc etc give reasons for girls to speak to me too. So I can be in state for when a girl does actually like me - the amount of girls I could probably have gotten with if I wasn't in some chode stifled state when it came too. . .

Outside Tiger Tiger (didn't go in) some girls asked me to make out with their friend as it was her Bday (Classy girls around this part), I said Uber was the man for that as he mentioned he thought she was cute when we saw her earlier. So he gets to making out with her.

Most of the time when he was in set, I just hung about quite chodily. Spoke to one of the friends who had some guy trying to amog me LOL. This was it:

Guy (next to girl): You mate 1..........2..........2......Now fuck off.
Me(Opposite girl): [To girl] Our friends are so hitting it off. They're cute together

He made such a big thing of his line too and the girl just stuck up for me and we walked off together. The guy was the dirtiest chavvy piece of shit. He'd of looked like a piece of shit even on Jezza K with his crack-head friends.

Then spent a while just casually chatting to Uber's girl's friends, I could have gotten s make-out with one I think as she didn't complain when I randomly kissed her on the cheek as she kept holding my hand but - lame excuse - I have these horribly cracked lips that bleed from smiling or moving about, sore as fuck so I was really conscious about them all night.


Lessons

Eat before I go out as tonight i didn't and every night I've not been well fed beforehand has been a lot worse in the same way.

Remember stick to just being social around the bar area and saying Hi to people, don't be a rush to get on it but also don't be holding back from it. Spent the whole night so hung up on the 'proper' approaching I didn't do anything at all really!

Keep shaved, I grew a beard out of curiosity but Chewbacca isn't a great look

Get speaking to the girl of whoever my wing is speaking to, even I'm feeling like a big loser make small/boring talk and trust in myself to branch off into good/funny conversation.

Relax in the club and accept any interaction or EC etc as great and adding to the night that's awesome anyway.

Get talking to anyone.

Long post. Last night out Manchester until September.

Night.

11/100 - Didn't go out as was moving back home - literally no time to get out anywhere.

12/100

Monday 11th June 2012

Back in my new home, got out the car and was already in love with the summer seaside town, namely the smoking hot surfer girl who skipped by me.

Got out into town, lost everyones numbers and no internet access meant I couldn;t get a hold of many people to out into town with.

First time going out in this town in 6 months and its alone.

Its a tint but mentally packed/drunken bar. There is a local saying that the night is a myth as no one ever remembers being in there or what happened. Super Monday Chy Bar.

I get in and I'm chilled, way more comfortable than when I first started. Saw 1 or 2 old friends; chatted to one for ages. I've noticed success in all this and getting 'better' is more about being able to not hold back on what you want to say/do rather than learning new things etc etc.

I still haven't fucking spoken to anyone until outside Im in the smoking area just enjoying the moment whilst sat down after god knows how long a 'HB8' brunnette Irish girl sits next to me, "Hey hows it going?" and we're chatting. Shit its going really fucking good.

She's saying something and I cut in with "You have really sexy eyes" with good eye contact and pause, quiet, until she says back "You have nice eyes too" and goes on to tell me how she was just talking to her friend about how she's a big sucker for brown eyes.

Anyway, I kino'd and all that. We joked around. Then I realised my biggest error, like HOLY FUCK, when I ask who she's with she say's her friend has 'probably gone home' so there's no point in looking for her. Now here I think "I should kiss her" and I don't.

This goes on for the rest of the interaction until she obviously got bored of me not fucking escalating, even when she got up to leave as now she wanted to find her friend, we just stood there close but I didn't make the move!! God I was annoyed at myself, she even waited around whilst stood there for me to obviously to do something.

I could list my 'excuses' like my cut up lips but they don't matter.Not one bit.

Pretty soon after I went home with some stupid look of disbelief at what I had (or hadn't) done.

Although it was good interaction I should have escalated in proximity etc with her.

Man, before I was happy that I showed up even though I wasn't approaching, now I was pissed I didn't go in for the kill with a really hot, cool girl.

Lessons and Improvements

I should get the k-close a lot quicker, like soon after I said the "Sexy eyes" thing or whilst were messing around winking at each other.

I was using more authoritative frames etc whilst speaking to her which I think was good.

Could have positioned it so I was closer or with an arm around her.

Kissed her on the cheek to warm up to the full kiss. I know it sounds lame being scared to kiss a girl when you're 21 but I am completely sober with girls I met 10minutes ago.

Tell her to kiss me on the cheek (micro build up to a proper make-out).

Probably should have gotten her to the dance floor for quick escalation and more sexual.

Be approaching in the fucking bar with groups etc. Out 6 nights a week hopefully and trying to persuade a friend to be my wing as he said he's "Given up on women".

Haha Thanks Kowalski, in the end I just jerked it over what coulda, shoulda, woulda happened over the girl, so I'm all good now. Learn, improve and carry on.

I'm going to post in the Intro section as I forgot to do that and I'll post up a long ass text (which I know HammerTime hates ;)) about my stuff to help give guys more of a perspective of where I'm coming from which will help when people give me advice.

Another funny thing I noticed was that last night a hot girl from my school came up and spoke to a guy I was catching up with and i said "Hey", she totally ignored me, maybe I wasn't loud enough and didn't 'properly' try but it's funny how I go out and have had these great interactions with girls - some hotter than this girl who was considered one of the hottest girls in our year - I've had a few 'near misses' with girls way hotter than her etc etc.

Just funny I guess, I mean I'm a 'chode/afc' still but it made me think a lot after it happened. I forgot what I was like in school.

Anyway, today I've been doing daytime stuff. Its simple things whilst i walk around rather than 'looking' for girls etc. I'll break myself into gently like in the gym you have muscle memory which allows you to quickly get back to your old shape. I'll do the same working up to direct/proper approaching.

Random Notes

I think escalation is important and begun to see what its about but I feel there's too much focus put on 'physical escalation', like escalating her emotions and the situation is a lot different to putting your arm on her lower back etc etc.

And befriending her friends, I noticed this with wings and in my experience. Its like the BIGGEST THING at the beginning. I swear 75% of interactions go awry because of the friends rather than anything between you and the girl.

My newbie thoughts based on limited experience.

Peace.

13/100

Tuesday 12th June 2012

Nowhere to go out at night until the summer picks up. Hadn't done Day time game in a long time; walked around town and made brief comments to 2 girls that walked passed.

14/100

Wednesday 13th June 2012

Planned on a big day of reference experiences and approaches to be able to do genuine interactions but it was raining pretty badly.

Still went out and did 3 "Hi"'s to hot girls. Was pleased with myself as the first one I was really nervous about since I havent done much day time stuff since I've been going out alone at night.

Thats the thing before I found this forum (Thanks Kowalski) I had literally JUST gotten to opening and closing hot girls during the day, like I think the same day haha.

Then I took a break from doing it properly as night game was taking up a big part of my day and I wasn't quite at a point where I could open as I went about my day. Had to make it an event (like a day out to Manchester Centre).

Anyway this summer is for massive action and reference experiences. Im going to go for it with a few girls around my social circle (obviously on the edge) during the summer too.

Its all about taking the action, results are irrelevant. Hopefully all this field and 'practice' will begin to manifest itself into my personality so I can at least properly practice it during my days too.

Random points:

- #close all sets that hook
- Name intro straight after opener OR something funny/cold read
- Get speaking as soon as I get in and during the night rather than any 'breaks'
- LOUD SLOW VOICE *important*
- Touch straight away with girl
- Speak to girls in groups BUT don't see it as engaging a whole group, just speak to the girl I like then get her to introduce me to her friends after
- Turning up is 80% of success - Woody Allen
- Just approaching/starting the conversation is it, anything else is icing and irrelevant.
- People are friendly and everything goes on MY time. The club is a joke, in fact, all of this is a joke.
- Stick at it, massive repetition and time will yield change and result.


Out tonight too.

really want you to do well mate

Another Random Point

Maybe this is just a bit of mental masturbation but I've started to notice a rhythm to the night.

Like between the frequency of approaches and talking and if you fall off that rhythm you have to almost (if not entirely) start over again in building it.

Like on my few 'on' nights if you can call them that I had a rhythm of how I was speaking to people, the time between opening and how long or far I took each interaction then randomly I'd just go inhead for a second or think I could 'chill' and it'd be over.

Not saying you (or I) have to be fully ON opening everybody/constantly in set but more like; if you're out with friends chilling then the night'll be a lower frequency of opening:friends

Compared to wanting to hit the place up with it being a high frequency of opening:friends.

I'll try to articulate it better in the future, just thought I'd write it down in case I forget about it or forget to write it. I like to post my opinions and ideas to challenged and face reality rather than survive in fantasy in my head :)

Cheers Sapmi, I'll be reading your journal!! Keep up the good work :)

15/100 and 16/100

Thursday 14th June 2012

In town, said Hi to 3 girls (lame newbie type mission I know) to get into day time stuff again.

Now the coffee shop has been re-opened I can meet girls in there too.

Went out at night with a friend, we got very drunk on probably the quietest night of the week. Didn't do any approaches or anything due to drunken-ness and being with friends.

Then the night ended around 7am Friday and didn't properly get out of bed till around 4am Saturday. So FRIDAY was a miss. Bad me.

Tonight - Saturday - might have to be a solo night. I was meant to be out with some girls I haven't seen in a while but recently I have been going over the fun/learning ratio of my nights out. And every night is a chance to get some great reference experiences and meet women. And with friends we know that won't happen.

EDIT: Although its something I don't normally do or condone I guess this being a record to track progress I should mention I took some certain substances that really don't help your game, like you THINK they do but really they detach you from reality too much to do anything real with them other than feel good.