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Default 07-12-2011, 07:26 PM

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Just to gently reiterate, Same Night Lays (in cold approaches) and the use of Intent in achieving them
'Nothing to lose' attitude.

By telling that girl you wanted to fuck her, whilst looking her dead in the eye, she probably started thinking 'who is this guy?' (in a good way)

I'm no expert but thinking back to the SNLs I've had, it's usually because I wasn't arsed whether it happened or not. BUT I did make my intentions clear in the early part of the conversation.


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Default 07-12-2011, 09:46 PM

Hey GLG,

I think it takes some guts to be that direct.
I don't agree that every woman just assumes men want to fuck them; therefore you don't have to make your intentions clear.

I know I need to be more direct and quite frankly I'm a pussy when it comes to that stuff. I like Brad but do think he goes a bit too far with the PUA analysis, but it obviously helped you on the night.

Anyway see you soon dude, was a fun night.


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Default 08-12-2011, 11:16 AM

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in my book, i dont even try fucking a woman, but i make it clear that its gonna happen.
You finally writing this book?


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Default 08-12-2011, 12:07 PM

The title of his book is "Stop reading this, stop worrying and start fucking"
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Talking 08-12-2011, 02:50 PM

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I cant remember the last time i went out with a girl on a date and actually had any intent to do anything with them.
I am always quite happy to get up and walk away wether anything happens or not
Great shout, I've been trying to get this point across to a couple of my mates, it's so true that if you're actively thinking about how things are going to go, or whether or not you're gonna fuck her, then it comes across in your game, and often ruins it.

As old school as it is, Cat-String Theory is so reliable that it's baffling, as long as you're in control of the situation, and know that you have the power to leave at any moment, you pretty much don't need to do anything else. For some reason, aloofness is like curry to a pisshead for most girls


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Default 09-12-2011, 11:26 AM

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coz women dont wanna fuck men coz they are giving of sexual signal... all men ever do is give off sexual signals... coz they are afraid to say it how it is.

in my book, i dont even try fucking a woman, but i make it clear that its gonna happen.
This is still a sexual signal surely?

You do this, I imagine, almost naturally now. It is subconscious for you. By that I mean you just say stuff without thinking about it and it comes across that you are clear it's going to happen. Some guys don't have a clue how to and need to do it consciously before they can act the way you do.

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womne are not used to guys not having one thing on their mind

and are intrigued as to why this specific one isnt on her like a rash.
Yes I agree with this. Bird I just left in London initially slept with me for this reason. I was pretty much the only 1 of my mates that didn't try it on with her and I ended up fucking her that evening and many times after. She is one of the hottest birds I've been with and pretty much said the reason she pulled me is the same as what you put above. However, I did obviously make a move at some point. I told her I wanted her to stay in my room and she did. When she was there I kissed her then fucked her. Some guys wouldn't have done this, as they don't know how. Also I think I was exuded confidence the night I met her. I guess this is what I mean by sexual vibe. If I had just been a a-sexual nobody ignoring her, she wouldn’t have even have known I exist.


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u dunno why ur trying to convince urself there is somethin invisible we have that you need to add.
Some guys do need to add something. There is something invisible. Confidence, charisma, sexual vibe whatever. There is something some guys have that others don’t. I agree with you that looks are obviously important, but pulling is not done a pure aesthetic basis. I’ve met loads of handsome guys who are shit with women and vice versa.

How do guys get this if they don’t already, by chatting to girls, up the flirting seeing where they went wrong etc and get to a point where they don’t have to try i.e. they are consciously attempting to get better with women and a big part of that is making sure they come across as sexual rather than just being a good friend (which seems to be the main problem for a lot of guys who are shit with women). Then when they don't have to try that’s when it will click and they will be better with girls.
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Default 31-12-2011, 04:58 PM

Intent plus not giving a f*ck i think is the key here. If you're all focussed on intent you'll be too outcome dependant and all pissy if it doesn't go well. But if you're all, 'i wanna fuck you' and not give a shit if you do or not you'll be alright man. xxx
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Default 01-01-2012, 03:39 PM

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GLG - can't you work on intent and stuff I mentioned? Why is it 1 or the other?

Reflex - I get what your saying but remember you probably give off sexual vibes subconsciously. Some guys don't and need to work on it consciously to make it become natural.
No. We are men. The strongest most effective 'sexual vibe' we can give off is not giving one off at all. It's the real joker in the pack that most dude's don't even realise they have. Women test and play games. They want you to show your hand, and the second you do you 'lose', you reveal yourself to be what she suspected all along just another 'ordinary boy' trying to get his end away.

The best way to 'appear' as if you have no hidden agendas or expectations is to ACTUALLY NOT have them...


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Default 01-01-2012, 03:59 PM

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Yea but then if you don't clear your intent soon enough you will fall in to nice guy category and it is very hard to get out of friend zone.
'Nice' guys aren't nice. They are creeps! Most girls know this. If she's still letting him hang around with her it's because she regards him as a 'harmless creep' and welcomes the validation/support his attention gives her.

The only thing worse than a clueless fool that telegraphs his sexual interest at every turn is a passive aggressive 'nice guy' that's obviously hiding his.

Not expecting sex or pushing for it directly and obviously ISN'T the same thing as pretending you aren't interested in the prospect of it happening at all...


"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, it's what you do with it that matters."
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Default 01-01-2012, 04:14 PM

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No. We are men. The strongest most effective 'sexual vibe' we can give off is not giving one off at all. It's the real joker in the pack that most dude's don't even realise they have. Women test and play games. They want you to show your hand, and the second you do you 'lose', you reveal yourself to be what she suspected all along just another 'ordinary boy' trying to get his end away.

The best way to 'appear' as if you have no hidden agendas or expectations is to ACTUALLY NOT have them...
I spoke about this already in my last post in this thread, but yeah I get what you guys are saying
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