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Default carnival day 2 (advice needed on sticking points). - 29-08-2011, 09:42 PM

wassup ppl cbg here, back from Monday's carnival which was sadly very subdued compared to previous years probably due to the ridiculously high police presence and the much lower numbers attending due to the London riots (felt exactly the same as Sunday's atmosphere which it never usually is).

On the bright side it was still very target rich and so me and my crew (seven in total) did do a lot of approaches. Not really bothered to write about the most interesting approaches like i did last time so I'll just talk about my results and sticking points I struggled on.

In terms of numbers, I did countless approaches successfully; opened about 85% of the time. Of those nearly all of them I was able to have a pretty pleasant conversation with. But, my biggest sticking point was that these pleasant conversations were simply that - pleasant, polite conversation, nothing exciting, sexual or even remotely interesting. Bottom line is they weren't engaged on an emotional level as I had no clue how to transition my rubbish job interview questions to a natural flowing conversation (advice needed).

However, it wasn't all bad, I did manage to get 22 number closes (which considering the amount of approaches I did is about a fifth) leading to 11 kiss closes. Again another sticking point I was having with the girls I was getting intimate with was dominance; I was building momentum in the early stages but for some reason was too nervous to lead the kino interaction after a k close and so the momentum just fizzled out.

Anyone who read my previous fr would know I was supposed to be meeting a very beautiful mixed race hb9 at tiger tiger tonight, now the old me would have jumped at the chance, but tbh I was not really feeling that well so as soon as they cut the music at around 7:30 i wasnt really bothered to hang around and so called her to reschedule, which to my surprise worked well as she suggested we watch Captain America because she still hasn't seen it (cat string theory really works).

So what have I learned from two days of carnival? for one my AA is gone almost completely and I would highly recommend any newbies out there struggling with this to go to any festival, parade, carnival or london riot (just kidding fuck those guys) as theres guaranteed to be females in there thousands. Just try to approach as many as possible and regardless of outcome AA will disappear. Also I need to condition my thought process to stop asking these shitty questions and just let a conversation flow.

Thanks for reading guys any advice would be appreciated, like last time i'll leave you with a fun little segment I like to call 'blow out of the day' (brought to you by hb7 with the sponge bob top).

ME- ''Hey guys can i ask you a quick question?''
HER - ''Sorry we're not interested.''
ME - '' Interested in what I'm only trying to be social and ask you guys a question.''
Her - ''well we dont wanna hear it so FUCK OFF.''
Me - '' (turning to her friends) oooooh i like this one can i keep her?
HER FRIEND LAUGHS
HER - ''look we're not going to fuck you so why don't you just piss off before I take out my tampon and stick it in your face'' (REAL CLASSY).

Now I could of said something clever like what are you gonna do if i like it, but I just burst out laughing to the point where i was nearly in tears and then walked off (best blow out ever).
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Default 30-08-2011, 09:49 AM

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my biggest sticking point was that these pleasant conversations were simply that - pleasant, polite conversation, nothing exciting, sexual or even remotely interesting. Bottom line is they weren't engaged on an emotional level as I had no clue how to transition my rubbish job interview questions to a natural flowing conversation (advice needed).

However, it wasn't all bad, I did manage to get 22 number closes (which considering the amount of approaches I did is about a fifth) leading to 11 kiss closes. Again another sticking point I was having with the girls I was getting intimate with was dominance; I was building momentum in the early stages but for some reason was too nervous to lead the kino interaction after a k close and so the momentum just fizzled out.
First thing - you are being WAY TOO HARD on yourself. 22 numbers and 11 makeouts in one day is fucking awesome!

There must have been something you were doing right to get to that stage, if they kissed you they MUST have been engaged on some kind of emotional level. From what you are saying it sounds like you weren't really trying for rapport, which can actually build attraction.

Remember that once you have kissed them, you have established a man-woman communication and they shouldn't have any resistance to physicality. Just act normal, continue the conversation on whatever path it was going down. You don't even have to talk; just stay silent whilst looking at her and she will probably re-initiate conversation.

Sometimes the problem with too much analysis is that it can mess you up. So focus on the positives - think about what you did leading up to those kiss closes, and apply it next time you go out! Happy trails


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Default 31-08-2011, 02:49 AM

Cheers for the advice smiles, I really think that's where I went wrong; after the k close I didn't act normal and so therefore made a really big deal out of it which I'm sure she felt and so therefore thought it was a big deal as well, I'm definitely gonna work on that.

amit one thing I've really seen that works when going for a k close is to always go for it mid kino, I know it sounds obvious but if your doing some kind of kino game or what ever and you have a hold of her hands, legs or any part of her body while you go for the close it really is alot easier, so get rid of all that 'do you want to kiss me shit' because at that point you will re-initiate kino by k closing when instead you should just go for it when your already touching (my favourite is to have her hands on top of your palms and to push them upwards so both of your finger tips are facing upwards and then interlock your hands together before going for it (really works)). hope this helps.
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