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Default 19-06-2011, 11:02 AM

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Hey, girls. I fucking love Giraffes. Don’t you girl’s just fucking love giraffes. I fucking love them. (Greyfox comes in)

GF: Is he fucking talking to you about giraffes again?
I seriously can't wait to get out and try this! Liking the reports Joe


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Default 19-06-2011, 03:56 PM

Everything seems to be progressing nicely JB, keep it up man!


'I've never known a man worth his salt who, in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline.' - Vince Lombardi

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Default 21-06-2011, 06:31 AM

Much appreciated guys, but seriously if you see anything you tjink I need to be callwd out on, please do as it's the best way for me to learn. I need start escalating more snd pushing for kiss and full closes. I watched "the rules of seduction" on 4OD Sunday which. brought to light something I have forgotten of late.

"The key to successful pickup is escalating the emotions, making a woman you've just met feel like she's known you for months."

New short term goal- improve comfort building.
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Default 21-06-2011, 06:37 AM

Funny you should say that quote.. The girl I was seeing saturday night, we'd been chatting just on FB chat for a few days, then when she was at my house, she said something like "god I feel like I've known you for months or even years!"

You can just escalate n escalate whether in person or text/fb whatevers, although I'd prefer in person obviously, but if you aren't meeting for a few days, you can still get to know each other if want her to feel comfort.
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Default 21-06-2011, 08:08 AM

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she said something like "god I feel like I've known you for months or even years!"
I get this all the time, not because ive spent yonks chatting to them on the phone or emailing or whatever.
its the situations and the energy you are giving off.
If you just bust through all established methods of getting to know somone and get them straight to your house, act really laid back and chilled along with creating rapport-- and she IS attracted to you-- it will feel like this to her.


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Default 22-06-2011, 06:40 AM

Definitely true. I can't remember where I heard this. But if you treat her like your girlfriend she'll behave like your girlfriend. Now we're not talking cringey pet names and double dates with your friends. But if you can be completely relaxed and comfortable around her- not be in your head, thinking of the next interesting thing to say. She'll drop her guards.
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Default 24-06-2011, 06:30 PM

Right, I'm off on my travels. Any interesting stories will be posted!
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Default 13-07-2011, 02:15 PM

I’m back. Briefly, but I am back and I thought I’d quickly update the journal with a few things I have learned. I’ve just returned from a holiday in Spain. It was a “Lads Holiday” with some friends from Uni, a lot of drinking and partying. We were in spain but a lot of the people there were English. I was fucking fearless the whole holiday, approaching everyone.

There was a big group of us, staying in a small villa- logistics were a nightmare. I didn’t get any full closes and whilst I can tell you plenty of interesting stories as to why - Essentially I didn’t close and I will draw the line there. I know what I did wrong in each situation and so have learned from it.

Since I was drinking so much while on holiday and hence wasn’t really on the ball- I wanted to use it as an opportunity to really push my luck. Again, fearless approaching- big groups, mixed sets, seated sets, dancing sets- anything and everything. No lines whatsoever, which was great. Just going in with the right level of energy and a high level of confidence and essentially just being a fun guy to be around.

I’ve learnt a lot about disarming guys. A lot of the mixed sets I approached were groups of friends on holiday together and I found that initially the guys were very protective. I found that a great way to get around this is to either approach the guy first. Or approach the girl; create interest/ attraction and then talk to the guy(s) in the group. Everyone’s favourite subject is themselves so show enough interest in the guy; charm, compliment and build comfort with him whilst also making sure he knows you’re an Alpha and you’re good to go.

On a few occasions girls were opening me. Sometimes I opened for the group of guys I was with. I was on holiday with a good bunch of guys-all Essex boys. They are all ok with talking to women but didn’t have to confidence to open big groups, so often I was doing this for them and getting thanked in return.

One or two of the guys in our group knew a small bit of game IOI’s etc and so sometimes if groups of girls were showing IOI’s we purposely wouldn’t open to see if they tried harder. And they did! Fucking IOI’s flying all over the place. The IOI’s got more and more explicit until we were cracking up and then we opened.

Once in set I was really trying to push my luck. I was being incredibly direct just to see what I could get away with. I knew if ever had nothing to lose, this was it. I did push it a bit too far with some girls. In fact one girl I managed to upset decided to follow me all night telling every girl I spoke to what a prick I was, haha. Terrible, terrible blow out but I’m glad it happened because I don’t think I’ll have a blow out that bad ever again, and even that I just shrugged off and laughed at.

I worked dance floor game a bit, trying to just be dominant. I ask girls (friends) a lot about guys trying to pickup them up (would seriously recommend this). And every girl I’ve spoke to says they can tell when a guy is lingering, and that they’d prefer if he just came straight to them to ask for the dance/number etc.

I’ve learned that you have to remember girl’s names. Or at least let them know that you’re not good with names. I had perfect game with this Scottish HB8, probably my best approach so far- I went back in, disarmed some guys she was with and asked for their names- she asked if I could remember hers. I couldn’t and her face just completely dropped-bad news.

The boys I was with had a fantastic way of looking at blow outs. Since most of them were doing approaches too- they looked at getting blown out like a custard pie to the face. Ridiculous I know. But it made getting blown out so fun- not scary, or awful- fun! If one of us got blown out. The rest of the group would whip up an imaginary custard pie and throw it in their face.

We also did intentional blow outs at the start of each night. I’d seriously recommend this. Pick a hot girl, approach and just fuck yourself up completely. Because afterwards you feel completely enlightened-knowing that it cannot possibly get any worse.

Anyway, the holiday- no full closes, number closes and make outs. But a hell of a lot learnt.

Finally, I want to share an NLP technique for state that a friend taught me. Let’s call it the circle of identity. So state, everyone wants to be in state when they go out.

Gambler mentions using music, affirmations and gestures to get into state and this is similar but with anchors and visualtions too.

So you stand up straight, alpha body language all the way. Music too if you want. And you draw a big circle on the floor with your finger. This is your circle of identity. Then you start to tell yourself affirmations. “I am confident” “I approach the women I am attracted to without hesitation” etc. Each affirmation you throw into the circle. You keep throwing things in. Physically replicate the throw too. After affirmations you start to associate all the positive things that are a part of your identity “charisma” “mystery” etc. Throw those in too.

You visualise all of these things as something tangible in the circle, light for example. Then, you step in the circle and imagine all of these things smothering you, swirling around you, like energy, you imagine that you are completely covered in all of these things. Then you start to breathe them in. You breathe them in and they are a part of you. Then you anchor them (pull on your ear, click your fingers etc. –you decide.) Anyway- a great way to get into state. Enough practice and just the anchor should be enough.

Anyway, hope some of this is useful.
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Default 13-07-2011, 03:28 PM

Cheers for that last msg Joe i found that it was a really good read.Im a noob around here at mo,im still feeling awkward and quite scared of rejection from approaches.I think the screw yourself up on purpose suggestion could be a good one to help get rid me of my AA.Also the affirmations from Gambler is something id be willing to give a go.Which one of his publications did you glean this idea from??id be interested to invertigate his ideas on this further Its just a shame you didnt bag any while u were in Spain:S
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Default 14-07-2011, 09:23 AM

Gamblers book- the natural art of seduction.
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