Massive interest from a walking two set outside the train station yesterday. I bottled it. I kept walking. I forced myself to turn around. I caught up with them. They were at the station. Sadly they were part of a huge group of people. I went to the toilet and thought of a way to open the whole group and even to isolate the two girls.

I came out of the station, ready to approach and they had jumped on a bus.

Lesson learned-obey the three second rule!

Yarp.

This girl already liked you from the start and was at times actually leading you to fuck her.

You "bombed" as you say, whenever you tried to insert some funky bit of game from your box of tricks, when she already liked you from the start and it came off as weird and out of place. You're already drawing this conclusion I suspect.

The bit where you were seeking explicit consent from her to escalate, by getting her to agree what is going to happen later before you feel comfortable doing so, that's not leading, that's asking. Not sexy. It comes from a place of insecurity within us. Accept that a girl can just like you which this girl did, assume it's on and just focus on the playful stuff and escalating that you're already doing.

Plainly back at hers she was leading you and steering you to escalate, you were probably in your head wondering what to do! At this point you've got to start thinking not about what to do, but what you want. Get horny which will make her horny, take charge, whisper to her what you're going to do to her (preferably earlier in the night too), turn her over and lead. Plus, in what world do you miss out on the massage, it's only fair she reciprocate afterwards, at which point you, well you get the jist...they love the passion of you taking charge because you can't hold back your horniness anymore.

Obviously if they don't reciprocate or get into it too, back off immediately, but if you've been turning up the heat playfully all night, there should be a lot of implicit understanding between you.

So yeah, hope helps mate. You're already better than you think you are, just drop the gamey stuff that doesn't fit, and keep at the playful stuff.

PS

Thanks man I really appreciate the feedback. I can see now how a lot of the gamey stuff I tried to fit into the conversation was very unnatural.

Whoops. That was me on Piano Guy's Iphone. But again PS, thanks man.

girl got the oil out, you should have got ur own form of lubrication on her face by the end of the night.

Your mobile phone is the best wing you can have in some situations mate!

Had another date last night. Different girl. HB8.

I kept things far more natural. No canned gamey stuff. Just fun conversation. We had a few drinks each. She was laughing all night. Things turned sexual towards the end of the night.

I suggested moving to a venue closer to her flat and she agreed. We moved to a bar that was playing old school hip hop and rn'b. We messed around did some people watching. But I made sure to turn things back to sex and go for the make out. We'd kissed already in the first bar. But I wanted more. I kept pulling away while we were kissing and she kept coming back in for more. I was happy to oblige. Haha.

I walked her back to her flat. She asked how I was getting home and I said my brother had offered to get me to save me getting a taxi. She said she didn't want me waiting on my own. I thought about waiting inside and going for the full close but had forgotten a condom.

I didn't want the awkwardness of asking if she had one. Plus, she's pretty cool so I'm happy to do a day 2. (She text me later telling me she had locked herself out of her room.) We waited on a bench outside her flat. It was pretty secluded. The bench was wet so I sat down and got her to straddle me. We made out; I rubbed her through her pants and kissed her breasts. She had on a vest top so I slipped the straps along with her bra straps down over her shoulders. I’ve found this is an easy way to get a girl to offer you her breasts. You sidestep the resistance trigger that sometimes comes with trying to undo a bra strap. Obviously this isn’t possible if they have a t-shirt or a blouse on but I’m just putting it out there.

Anyway, phone rings. We make out at her door and arrange to meet up again. I’m pretty happy with that for a day 1.

Great changes, reads very differently already. Good on you mate.

You're missing the subtext, what do you think she really meant? Girls lead us half the time, but couch it in non slutty excuses. Just go with it when this comes up.

Keep two or three hidden in the coin section of your wallet, but keep them hidden to stave off ASD. You're hardly Martin in this video but it always stuck in my head since I saw it ages ago.



Possibly more subtext.

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PS

Been a while. I'm temping at the moment so sarging has been difficult. But. I've got myself organised and found a reliable wing.

I'm up at 6am on weekdays now so sarging has been limited to friday/saturday nights. It's lame but it means I can keep week nights for dates and dance lessons.

I also daygame on saturdays/sundays

I am working my way through RSD Blueprint. It is inspiring. There principles in it which I relate very strongly to:

Fight Club

-You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.

-Be who you’re meant to be.
-Live a life of your own design.
-You dictate your identity.
-You decide what you value in life.
-Own who you are. Do not live up to other people’s standards.
-Express your personality freely and let the chips fall where they may.

This and “The complete guide to not giving a fuck”

The Complete Guide to Not Giving a Fuck

have really changed my outlook on all of my interactions and life in general. I am now approaching sets without thinking. I am no longer relying heavily on canned material other than the occasional direct opener.

AA is slowly disappearing. I look at a girl and if I think “Yeah. She’s hot.” I just start walking and tell myself three reasons why I want to approach her. I imagine fucking her.

I number closed twice and kiss closed on Friday night. One close was at a bus stop. She was stood waiting at the bus stop under an umbrella and I made myself cross the road and talk to her. I asked if I could stand under her umbrella while I checked the times. We shot the shit for a few seconds then I said “do you want to know a secret” and told her that I wasn’t getting a bus but that I was really attracted to her and wanted to talk to her.

The kiss close was instigated by a smile at the bar and I went in naturally- essentially just introducing myself and going from there.

I’ve started to keep a list of “rules” for myself. Nothing set in stone. It’s not like if I break one of them while I’m talking to a girl that I walk away from the set to punish myself or something. They’re generally just helping me focus and making me far more productive.

I number closed at the train station yesterday. HB9 smiled. I went after her. Introduced myself and told her that I have a policy of making myself talk to girls I find incredibly attractive. I walked her to her train and got her number. Might lead somewhere, might not. Nothing invested, nothing lost.

Also: this song is awesome.

YouTube - ‪Fight Club - This Is Your Life‬‏

I’m still working my way through RSD- which is awesome and I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn’t seen it. It talks about so much stuff that I have been completely unaware of until now, but has been staring me in the face the whole time. I do not intend to read any further into technique after this. I am going to focus on inner game and just getting out there and thinking fuck it- and going for it. Good article below that relates:

There is absolutely no substitute for putting in effort and taking action

I’m also reading Tolle-The Power Of Now. Which is incredible and again I highly recommend this. I know that my ego and the risk of it being damaged is the thing that stops me from doing the things I want to. This is changing, more so lately than ever. I plan to move onto “Mastering Your Hidden Self-A Guide To The Huna Way” next.

I have also started doing breathing exercises daily, and meditating also. I realise now that I have actually been meditating for a few months without considering what I was doing to be meditating in any shape or form. Whenever I am feeling overwhelmed or I just want to clear my thoughts and focus I listen to a “virtual thunderstorm” on my Ipod. I close me eyes and concentrate on nothing but the sounds of the rain and the thunder. Eventually other thoughts creep in but I’ve found that I have been able to do it for longer and longer. So I am continuing to do this and other forms of meditation.

As far as sarging is going, confidence is through the roof. I’m approaching all the time. I number closed at the train station during the week. I approached and just started talking. Mentioned that I had seen her in the station and that I would have been very unhappy with myself if I didn’t come and talk to her. I told her that there’s a very high probability that she has a boyfriend (prompt the Boyfriend objection to save time-thanks Sinn) but on the possibility she doesn’t I want to take her out. She laughed and told me she didn’t, and gave me her number.

I went for a drink Thursday night with her but logistics are a problem for me at the moment because I’m living with my parents over the Uni summer break. I didn’t concentrate too much on “gaming” her, and just focused on having fun. We ended up talking about sex anyway and we share a lot of values so the conversation was very natural. She is very intelligent however, so I think she could be a challenge- but I like challenges. I had to be up at six am the next day so I walked her to her car and kiss her on the cheek and called it a night. I felt her lean in for a kiss as I went in but really wasn’t in the right mindset.

I went out on Friday and again just focused on having fun. It was an odd night. The weather was awful and we hopped venues a lot. Plenty of approaches though. Number closed three times. The first two can’t say much about as they were pretty natural. The second was a French girl and I told her on the approach that I could tell she isn’t English because of the way she held herself in the club. I told her she looked like she was having more fun than most of the girls in here- rather than worrying what she looked like and non-verbally begging for attention from guys. I told her that’s why I wanted to talk to her. Pretty cool girl.
The next was interesting. I was out with Greyfox and he told me about an opener he had just used and we spoke quickly about how hat you say really doesn’t fucking matter. It’s all about state and confidence.

So the approach (4 set).

Hey, girls. I fucking love Giraffes. Don’t you girl’s just fucking love giraffes. I fucking love them. (Greyfox comes in)

GF: Is he fucking talking to you about giraffes again?

I isolated the girl I was after and we spoke for a while, fuck loads of kino. She told me she was sober and I told her that I like girls who don’t have to drink to have fun. Number closed and told her I would steal a giraffe from the zoo, straddle it and pick her up on it.

This opener is ridiculous. But it highlights a good point. That once you’re completely confident in yourself (something I’m working on). A state of self that is impenetrable- what you say really doesn’t fucking matter. The good thing about a “stupid” opener like this is that a girl who responds to it is likely to be open minded- something I look for in a girl. It’s a good screening method. Girls who responds with something like “What the fuck are you talking about?” I know I’m not really going to be into anyway.