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Thumbs up January Sarging: London crowd - 09-01-2011, 08:01 PM

Saturday 8 January 2011

Me, lucky, johnnyb, Smiler X, anarkzie, Nameless, balconybanana and EdHyde met up at the Wetherspoon in Leicester Square for initial drink.

After leaving, we spotted a waitress with HUGE tits looking out through a restaurant’s glass door. I waved, she waved back. Then Nameless bounded over and opened her, "Hey is this place any good?" / "Yeah, it's great", etc / "Well have you ever been taken for dinner here?" / "No.. but I know the food is good" / "Well next time I'm taking you on a date here".

After being blocked from O’Neil’s due to having a grand total of zero women with us, we headed onwards to The Shaftesbury, with the guys getting to know each other.

I opened a fit girl getting some drinks, joked that she knows the barman and needs to get me that same discount on my next round. She found this funny, but it was true that she'd been in a social convo with the barman. Fifteen mins later, I said hi to her again and her Chinese friend when they were in our vicinity. They went back to being tucked away in a booth; I wasn't showing a massive deal of interest as preferring to chat with the guys in our crew.

A group of nine or ten guys was a bit unwieldy for getting into clubs; EdHyde and balconybanana sensibly suggested splitting it into groups going to different venues.

Smiler X, lucky, balconybanana and EdHyde headed to The Roadhouse (Covent Garden).

I headed with Johnnyb, anarkzie and Nameless to Dirty Martini (Covent Garden):
1. No queue
2. No queue meant no women in vicinity to chum us past the bouncer
3. Bouncer says, "goodbye"

Dejected, we head across Covent Garden, I noticed a gaggle of women twenty meters away from us. So, I opened a female nine set.

I bounded over and opened them, "that Dirty Martini was so SEXIST that us guys couldn't get in, we need you girls to chum us into the club". The women went crazy, grabbed my beanie hat and passed it around them, grabbed me, and I wondered how far nine crazed women pulling my clothes off would go. Managed to control my beatches, and after they were safely leashed, johnnyb, anarkzie and Nameless came over.

Our mixed group headed to The Porterhouse pub.

On our walk, I had been doing the chat with three of the women. One had something interesting in common with me, but was at HB6 level so I disqualified her. Another of the three - brunette, cute, HB 8, 5'6 ish, nice figure - I shifted my focus to. Made an early decision to focus on her as my target bird, coz I fancied her. We reached Porterhouse, which was packed.

Johnnyb and anarkzie headed downstairs to open other sets.

Nameless and me went with the women we arrived with up to the Porterhouse balcony.

Summary of outcomes:

- The women were on a 30th birthday party, and the birthday girl (tight black lycra trousers) stuck her ass up in the air, so I spanked it for good measure. No reaction (the alcohol?), so spanked her ass again much harder in proper style. Good fun. Her crowd loved it. I think.

- I number-closed my target bird
- I kiss-closed her too for good measure

- Notable: I isolated her onto a bench-seat for two (as soon as that seat became free).
- Notable: Out of nowhere really, I think all she mentioned was that she was single, I freestyled with, "you've been hanging out with lots of guys who don't treat you right.” while holding eye contact and my arm round her waist. This got a v positive response; she definitely related to it on some deeper level.
- Notable: post-number-close, pre-kiss-close, I salsa-danced with another bird from the group. Nameless later told me that my target had her arms tightly crossed and was fuming! A successful neg without even trying to make one; I was just having fun.

- Notable (fun!): after the second session of kissing my target, I said she was size 10. "Size 10 is correct", she says. OK, I'll guess your bra size. "OK". Well, to do this accurately, I need to get my hands on them... "OK", she says with a smile. My hands-on breast work led to guess work. "32C !", Inspector Rebus confidently stated whilst choosing to underestimate (minor neg). "No, no, 32DD!" she scolded.

- Nameless had been working on a cute blonde piece, and I dropped by them. Whispered in Nameless' ear, "have you got her number?". No. "Well do it."

The group of nine women head off home, except for cute blonde piece that stays with Nameless. Wow, I think it means a lot for a woman to separate herself from eight other friends!

On the street, we RV'ed with Johnnyb and anarkzie and they regaled us about Slovakian cuties downstairs at Porterhouse.

The five of us headed to Dirty Martini (got there in the end!).

I thought it was good! Some fit women. Energy. Insanely busy, coz it's always free to get in (even a free cloakroom AND no toilet attendant: the Dirty Martini club management are my heroes!).

Then Nameless announced that he had lost the women that he'd taken to the club. She went to toilet and never came back! She'd gone home!

"Why not text her?" / "Coz I didn't get her number"

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAT???!!!!

Nameless was pretty pissed about this; I reckon that it's a perception shift for some ppl to NOT wait until the end of the night to get the #-close. You get the number when there is a hook point. You can still continue to hang out together that same night, but now more relaxed inside busy clubs as you have each other’s number!

It felt like we opened all the fit women in the club; some were there with boyfriends (e.g. shortie HB8 with 32E tits size 10 with BF who is from her work, etc) but we opened anyway. Would have been rude not to. We were also chatting with some of the lads there who were a good laugh.

All the time at Dirty Martini and afterwards, I'm getting contacted by the bird I closed at Porterhouse who had left for home (in two hours, she sent me nine texts and attempted calling me twice). She's a keen one. (Later this week, I plan to ask her about what happened with Nameless' women.)

A nice blonde piece I opened was very smiley and receptive. Blondie was standing up. Then some BF guy who was sitting in their booth, grabbed blondie and jerk-pulls her back towards the seats with a retort to me of: "WOOOAH... WOOOAH... WOOOAH... WOOOAH!!!!".

At Subway sandwich shop, I called the Porterhouse bird, she was getting into bed (so I went over what she was wearing in sexy detail) then arranged to see her Friday after we both finish work. She's very keen and driving over to see me (means: park your car at my place); Nameless thinks I'll get a fuck-close first date to kick off 2011.

At the nightbus queue, three early-twenties HB 7s. They asked us about where to get the bus, whilst one HB temporarily got on a bus to ask driver. I quickly escalated to the remaining girls (size 10, 5'4) "which of you is the heaviest?". Followed up with, "well, let me check!" I lifted one of them high up into my arms ("wwwwoooooo!" she cried), pretended to be weighing her... "hmmm"... then set her down and repeated with her friend. After that, I declared it a draw, but a close call, and said you're both very cute. "So are you", she replied. Just then, my bus had arrived, so Nameless and I left these women and headed off.

Rebus

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Default 09-01-2011, 08:28 PM

Hi Rebus,

As a newbie I have to say that it sounds as if all of you had a really fun night which is how it should be with the women on top as a bonus.

I am definitely up for the next meet if you don't mind a newbie along.
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Default 09-01-2011, 11:53 PM

Nice one rebus!
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Default 10-01-2011, 08:32 AM

This is me, learning the hard way to #close ASAP... but I had so many IOIs that I was bursting with confidence, at the time she fled to the toilets :

* She had split with her group, who were mainly women from Oxford heading back home circa 11:30 PM to get the last train. When they left, I was chatting with her building comfort, and checking with peripheral vision how was Rebus doing. At this point he started dancing with some scottish bird from the group, and his target was so pissed off, I couldn't help but laugh.

* I had her laughing all the time, even when shit testing me. ie
Me : I get ID'd all the time, and even once a bouncer tried reject me because of my french ID
Her : No surprise with your cute baby face, you must be what, 25? You're kinda young for me, aren't you ? Guess my age.
M : between 80 and 90, and I bet you can knit. *wink*
H, miming knitting : Of course I can ! *laugh*
M : Since the birthday girl is turning 30, I guess you're around that age. *touching her arm* *spinning her around and blatanly checking her assets out*(made her laugh more) "I would say 28".
H : I'm 32, but thanks !


* She had agreed to follow on an instant date to a new venue

* Bought me a drink upon arrival to the aforementioned venue, without any discussion.


Meh, better laugh about it!

fun fact #1 : "FREE HUGS" T-shirt guarantees being opened, and even group hugs with harmfuls of HBs

fun fact #2 : when you hook in a group of women who have been drinking since 2 PM, be prepared to everything. And by everything I mean : having the bday girl grinding you in the middle of the pub, miming being taken doggy style (Rebus saved my ass by spanking hers at this time ). having the same girl grabing your crotch and starting massaging your junk with serious eyes contact. I wasn't prepared for that...


Fail, but fail better!

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Default 10-01-2011, 12:48 PM

me gusta mucho mate... still on for weds ?


dont worry theres another six around the corner...
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Default 10-01-2011, 03:49 PM

good night everybody, not much I can add after Rebus' field report :

Me, anarkzie and Smiler X tagged along Rebus & Nameless to Porterhouse, couldn't really get hook in that 9 set Tried opening bthday girl and a few of her friends, but they were just in a crazy state, doing shots and just grabbing random guys, putting lime in the mouth and then giving them free shots For smiler x & anarkzie it's the first proper sarging with wings and they get a bit of AA.

So we go downstairs, it's packed, band is playing loudly, can't open anyone in that noise, so we go outside for a bit. Within a min, this cute HB7.5 asks anarkzie for a lighter, of course he's looking through his bag and can't find it, so she asks someone else for one. As she's about to leave I open her with some random stuff, if she's been there before of liked the band. She turns out to be slovakian recently moved from Vancouver. We joke around a bit about her origins slovakian & canadian, she is impressed of meeting a true Londoner: that's anarkzie. We get a bit friendly, take a few pics with her phone, but she has to get back to her friends inside.

We plan to open the full set in a few min inside, but surprise in 2 min she comes back with this pint plastic bottle of some weird slovakian pear palinka. We all take a sip, it's quite strong 30-40%, I joke that she's trying to get us drunk and offer to but it for a fiver, she smiles and said she doesn't usually do that and goes back inside.

A few min later we go inside and open her again in a 4 mixed set with one guy. They're all friendly, another slovakian hb6 and a hb7 south african. I think we AMOG-ed the guy as within 2 min he moves away even though we opened him as well. All going well, chat random stuff, hb7 can't stop smiling and laughing, hb7.5 goes out again for a smoke, Smiler X has to leave to catch the last train, then the hb's said that they want to go somewhere else and turn to true Londoner for advise, it doesn't go that well as anarkzie didn't know the area that well. hb 7.5 comes back and they plan to get moving, trying to #close, she says she has 3 mobile no: uk, slovakian & canadian, then tries to give me her FB, but I am not on it. Then 2 guys come along and they all move, she invites us to come along.

We get outside, I didn't realise at first, but anarkzie told me later they were 4-5 guys with them. Then Rebus calls telling us he's just around the corner near some scaffolding and waving at us We can't decide what to do, the group already starts moving along, anarkzie tells me he didn't really feel the vibe, so we give up and meet Rebus then head to dirty martini where we find Nameless telling us that his target left just before the #close and Rebus is getting excited about his target txt-ing and calling him every 2 min, good job
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Default 10-01-2011, 04:43 PM

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they want to go somewhere else and turn to true Londoner for advise, it doesn't go that well as anarkzie didn't know the area that well.
Ironic that some of us non-native-Londoner upstarts now have better Covent Garden location knowledge than some of the locals! Hook in a nearby randomer and ask him or her where is.cool.and nearby!

The wild birthday girls needed dominant frame, like ass spanking and salsa dancing.

Good stuff with your report.

As for Facebook, its good youre not on it. Could have just asked for her email address.

As for "hb7 can't stop smiling and laughing", the South African, that continued behaviour was a hook point. Could have isolated her, eg too noisy here, lets go back outside for a bit.... lead her by the hand... notice it is a statement, not a question.
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Post Wed 12 Jan - forum meetup @ Leicester Sq - 13-01-2011, 12:50 AM

Wednesday 12 January 2011

Me, tebbs, his wing, johnnyb, Anarkzie, Boomba, his wing, Craigus, Tuffleo, and later on Snake Eyes -- a motley crew of ten.

We met up at the Wetherspoon in Leicester Square for initial drink and chat, then visited Yates next door.

In Yates, Tuffleo had opened a four set on his own; good stuff. Tebbs dispatched me in support of Tuffleo once I arrived (why couldn't u do it Tebbs, lazy bugger!). Anyway, at that four set table there was a student with freckles and blue eyes; she was smiling profusely and blushing as I took the piss out of her and her three friends, while kino'ing like crazy her bare arms. However she had nothing of value to say, I asked her twice about her passions and she just couldn't think of any. So after I asked repeated the question to no avail, I said bye then, walked off...

At the bar I did fun stuff. Had each arm around waist of two of her friends. They had short skirts with sheer sexy tights with sexy patterns in stocking-style across them. So I said, "let's have a *competition*, who has the sexist pattern on the tights"? I just grabbed their nice legs up against my chest. "Myself and Anarkzie will judge". What proceeded was fun. Maybe Anarkzie can help explain it better to y'all??

Sort of opened a bird (she complained to the group that she couldn't get around our gang of men to other side, so I gave her friendly chat in response, then announced that she had to LIMBO dance her way under Anarkzie's arm to get to the other side of club. She did this, then spun round to chat, she was in the chat with Craigus, Anarkzie and me, so I thought good job and walked off to leave them to it.) End of evening conclusion (way after we left Yates): Craigus did really well with this bird. :-) Maybe he can post too!

We split into smaller groups and left Yates; me, johnnyb and Anarkzie did a tour of empty-on-this-Wednesday-night-when-compared-to-weekend London venues:
  • O'Neil's (club room closed),
  • Jewel Piccadilly (main room closed),
  • Grace (downstairs club closed)
  • On Anon (entire fucking club shut down and boarded up...!! with big banner saying "The end of dull is nigh"! WTF! More like "The End is Nigh" with this winter-time Wednesday nights around dead town)
Opened a shy girl on street. Turned out to be fucking gorgeous face, HB9, but shy and wanting to walk somewhere. Johnnyb & Anarkzie saw this, maybe they can post why this went no further...?

So headed to a Soho scrubbers' pub, drank and chatted PUA. Anarkzie entertained johnnyb and me with an awesome story about strippers and dickhead club bouncers. Craigus regaled us by text of his success. The other guys turned up and tebbs tried reselling us on his Value Me concept which he will flog to the more vacuous chicks.

Rebus

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Default 13-01-2011, 08:02 AM

So, last night was my first ever night out sarging as a PUA-in-training, and I must say, I kinda dissapointed myself. As Rebus said above, we met up in Spoons on Leicester Square for initial drink and chat - really great to meet everyone btw, all really cool dudes - but it quickly became evident that it was a sausage fest in there.

So we moved next door where where it was at least a bit better. My AA kept getting the better of me when ever I spotted any sets, but again, as Rebus said above, he opened the girl that tried to get passed us and me and Anarkzie (?, i think, anyway - sorry dude, I cant remember everyones names) started chatting to her - she was only about a HB5, but she pointed to her friend who was a HB7, so I thought I'd go along with it. lol

So we chatted for a bit, joked around, got some cheap kino in, then told her that she was quite rude for not taking me over to introduce me to her friend (HB7). That went down quite well. So we went and sat down, and it turned out some other dude was trying to chat up the HB7 to no avail, because when I came over, she immediately started ignoring him, and started giving me all sorts of IOIs (trying on my ring; playing with her hair; etc, etc).
So I shifted my attention to the HB7. but after a while, I could see that the HB5 started getting the hump, and I didn't have the heart to just cast her aside for her friend. So I shifted attention back to the HB5 (which, if my target was still the HB7, it would have worked out beautifully because she got the huff shortly after and kept trying to get my attention again).
Anyways, I realised then that everyone had moved on, and I didn't want to get stuck with this girl all night. So I got some more kino in: hand on leg, holding her hand, and said that I was going to catch up with my friends, and that we should swap numbers - hook up sometime. She whipped her phone straight out and kept asking when I'd call. Then as I was about to leave, I touched her cheek, leant in, and kissed her. Then quickly made my exit.
Its a shame I wasn't attracted to her, because she seemed like a nice girl.

Anyway, I got outside and as I only had Rebus' number, called him to find out where everyone had gone. But I don't think he had signal, because it wouldn't connect, and after texting him and sticking around Leicester Square for 15-odd mins, I decided to call it a night, with my AA tail stuck firmly between my AFC legs.

Lessons from the night:
1. Stop worrying about AA, and just do it.
2. Get everyone's mobile number at the start of the night so that I don't end up stranded! lol

Anyway, cheers guys for a good night (BTW, Rebus: I figured out who you reminded me of - a young Jeff Bridges!) - I'm definatly up for some more sarging with you all in future - especially if it's on a weekend.

Much love,

Craigus
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Default 13-01-2011, 09:10 PM

was a good night... lovely to see new faces and some keen newbies...

Craig you're right it was a pack..... a few thoughts, for the newbies, as I saying to guys in wetherspoons...my 2 golden rules, which have helped me...

1. Do not give a fuck of what people think of you.
2. Just Keep it SIMPLE!!!!, dont give youself obstables

The AA will go, just keep hammering away and it will get easier... the worst thing that can ever happen, is a boyfriend will appear tell you to fuck off, and thats it, but in 7 months Its only ever happened to me once, and I must of opened over 200 sets I reckon.

The 2 young guys from North London where asking me about openers, here you go...

1.Observational -- "Where did you get that handbag, I bought my sister a similar one for xmas"

2.Direct -- look surprised,or shocked, "wow your cute, hi im tebbs, who are you then ?" hold out your hand

3.Canned Opinion -- but only use as it as last resort, and it will open young girls only.. "I need your opinion on something, my sister is getting a tatoo of this guy name,but shes only know him him 6 weeks, what do you think???"

Now the golden rules with openers, get off them as quickly as possible!!!.. as you want to get into rapport as quickly as possible. Id say ideally you want to be getting off them in under a minute...

The way I get off them, will be simply... ( and the key is just keep it simple!!! )

Group: So how do you girls know each other then ? or So whos the naughty one then?
Single set: So you like a school teacher/ nurse / hairdresser

and its that simple... just get off the opener.. if you have too and as a last resort you can say something along of the lines of...

"Anyways, bugger tattoos, handbags, so how do you know each other"...

Note also when you go direct, you will go straight into rapport... yes its high risk, but they will either do one of 2 things, they will just walk off, or they will stop and you go straight into rapport.

So then next step, to stay in set, hook and create rapport and comfort....

treat everything that comes out of her mouth as a hook, everything that comes out is a hook, some will be shit hooks, some will be good ones...

So for example...

"you look like a school teacher..."
"no im a nurse"

at this point... your brain will tell you to ask her "how long have you done it for.. or do you like it"

NO!!!! you need to get off the job part and find out about her, and get her jumping though your hoops as quick as possible, that will start the attraction...

The job part isnt the hook...the reason she is a nurse is the hook....

99% of the blokes will pursue the job itself... you need to be the 1% that pursues the reason she a person wants to be a nurse, what motivates her to do it and ultimately what makes her tick...

So an example could be

"so your the caring type, I had you down as the ruthless city girl (neg), so what made you choose you wanted to help people ???"

"was it something you choose, or was it parents choice?"

or my favourite....

"if i was to give my job tomorrow, and decided to be a nurse, what 3 qualities would I need ?"

The joy of this one, is that will give you 3 HUGE hooks then to work with, the 3 things that she considers to herself to be....and also 9 times out of 10 she will then ask you what you do for a living (remember you need her jumping though your hoops)

then you pursue the 3 things she gives you, and ask her about out that, remember get off the job part asap and what makes her tick as soon as possible....

Another trick I will use, is when she mentions something quite deep, I will give her something and then and tie it in with a dhv spike, so the idea is everytime she opens up, you tell her something...

"ah one of my ex girlfriends is a now writer for the guardian, but its interesting as she wanted to be a nurse"

"ah my sister harriott, always wanted to be a nurse, and she ended up working as a fashion designer for marks and spencer"

"Ah one of my dancing partner at salsa, is a nurse and she always telling me funny dirty nursey stories"

And finally... you guys where asking about wings....

1.what ive done with my wings, if theres is more than 3 of you... break into 2 groups...

1.a know 3 of your wings hobbies, passions you need it later...

2.When one of you opens a set, leave him too it... give him room and dont stare at the set.

3.When you are in set and you need help, (for example, the second her mate puts her hand in her bag to get her phone) very quickly put you hand behind your back for a a quick second and on the side you need the wing and then speak to quickly to the problem with the mobile phone.

4.When the wing comes in, you will either make or break the set... so USE your head... if its a low energy group be low energy, and you big your wing up as much as you can...

now if you want your wing in, do something like this...

Wing: Hey tebbs did you see Sarah over there...
You: Yes I did, Im going to see her later (yes means i need you to take the fatty/girl with phone)

or... No, cool, Ill going to speak to her later (Im fine, leave me alone)

then as a wing you need to big your mate up big him up.....

"oh my god you met my buddy tebbs did he tell you hes an amazing snowboarder/salsa dancer etc etc"

and then you take the one that ruining the set... thats your job!!!!

Ive lost 3 times as many sets my the fatty ruining it or the wing fucking it up... so make sure you tight with your wings....

I think that sort of covers it....

any more questions... send me a pm... and boys keep hammering at it, youll get there..


dont worry theres another six around the corner...

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