never take advice from girls on 'what works with girls'. They dont get a clear picture of reality (biased by being girls). They want romance, mr Darsy from pride and predjudice, free drinks etc but what they NEED is a strong survivor who is going to lead them and protect them in return for sex. It has also become reasonably clear to me that this is what they respond to and that romance is formed from the emotions they will develop when they see a strong male likes them.

yeah basically...

they dont want romance... they want romance from the guy who they really like who doesnt give them it...

and they only want it from guys who wont??? then when you do, they dont...

i think the key is to be the player... show them a slight of romance, then take it back away

just be romantic 10%

The Chinese have a saying: Women love the men the most that don't love them back.