My summer of cold approaching
 

Well, since the end of March I was doing cold approaches.

I only count successful approaches, which are approach the target, deploy the compliment, acknowledge the compliment as received and appreciated.

I do not count failed approaches such as being blanked or just someone quickly saying "I've got a boyfriend".

That does not count.

In fact, recently I've only been counting approaches that have resulted in a conversation where I can tell they are genuinely impressed.

I am on 44 now since March 28th.

Once I've made six more I will go with a day gaming coach to help push the boundaries and give me some tips.

I'll have to go up to London to do that but it will be worth it to get tuition from a pro.

Edit: I should emphasize that this is DAY GAME, I find "night game" to be highly unethical and predatory.

Absolutely killed it today-smashed my previous record of 11 approaches in one day and made it to 14.

And I think it was the nicest "rejections" I've had, on a consistant basis, I didn't have one awkward/weird one either.


I had little anxiety, I've got a feeling that my energy is changing.

I wasn't feeling nervous like "I shouldn't be doing this" when I was approaching chicks.

I even stopped a chick on her phone and she was okay about it!

I was so relaxed, loving it, dunno why.

There were a few that I let slip due to them being with guys or not sure of the age but on the whole I was really impressed with myself.

There were very few awkward feeling ones.

Suffix to say, I was bossing it.

Riding the high.

My goal at this point is to become an "approach machine".

I don't want to go back to being in my head at all, it's the nasty rejections that do that to me.

I remember taking hours just to do 2-3 approaches a couple of months ago.

14 approaches in one day, BEAST!

The chicks were all so nice and it wasn't even that sunny, a little bit but overcast, I dunno, I'll put it down to my energy changing for the better.

My goal was actually 2 or 3 approaches but it was one of my best days ever!

Well I went out today (Saturday) with a goal to do a few approaches, nothing major.

Unfortunately I was so inside my head that I couldn't seem to do it. I was having the old paranoid thoughts and not being in the moment. Thinking everyone was watching, thinking the targets are going to react badly, etc.

I think the main thing was that I was tired from working 5 nine hour shifts on a building site which is my job at the moment.

But I was also paranoid that after my approach spree on Thursday, I might get noticed or approach the same targets again and use up their good will.

I went to the cemetery and had a nap under an old oak tree which was nice and helped my state, but by that time I was too far down the rabbit hole.

I looked at some headstones and reminded myself that I will be dead one day but it still wasn't working!

I felt like I had a zipper on my mouth and it was firmly zipped shut. I half heartedly pursued a few chicks but didn't approach them.

I even hesitated to ask a supermarket worker if they had something. I was back to my old ways of hovering around and not approaching.

I couldn't even bring myself to do self amusement or say hi. I think I was out for 3 hours and only spoke twice to people.

Indeed I was walking around with my hood up and shades on.

I must have let 10 reasonably pretty chicks pass me by, including 2 or 3 quite stunning ones. In fact I saw more chicks today when I felt unable to approach than I normally see out!

So I could have attempted to approach, but I figured I would let myself see what it was like to be my old self again.

And that confirmed that I sure as hell know I don't want to go back!

My energy and mojo felt like it had disappeared, but I am fairly sure it was because I was tired.

I feel like if I got a couple of rejections I would have learnt something and made some effort but just having nothing doesn't feel great at all.

Tomorrow is a new day.

Friday today and I let a hot chick go in the supermarket.

It was my own town, not the bigger town nearby, I was paranoid that I might have approached her before so I left rather than lingered in the stalker like way I do sometimes when I try to psych myself up to approach.

I wasn't specifically out for cold approaching, just going about my quick shop after work.

I work in an ultra macho environment (construction site) so it doesn't do much for my more "delicate" social skills that you need for talking to women.

Plus I was looking like iron man togged up in all my bike gear and just felt too conspicuous to approach in case it turned awkward.

I will go out tomorrow and sunday to try and force some approaches but I've not been feeling it this last couple weeks.

Really has felt like I'm forcing myself to do something I don't want to do and it feels so unnatural.

I didn't feel up to dealing with the awkwardness on a Friday night.

Well I pat myself on the back today because I forced out a super awkward approach.

I was in Aldi, which is a small shop.

I spotted this hot chick walk in.

She had a brand new Ford Ranger pickup so based on that I assumed she was with somebody quite successful as it's not the kind of car a single woman would own.

I couldn't approach her in the shop, I just couldn't do it in such a small shop where everyone could hear, even though I did one on Sunday in there.

So instead of hanging around, I went and did my shopping, then I observed that she had finished her's, I was at the till and I just got out as she was waiting to put her trolley back after loading the shopping it into her truck.

I did my usual line, told her she looked incredible and that I wouldn't mind getting to know her.

I felt super awkward togged up in all my biking gear and absolutely forced myself to do it.

She looked worried, hesitated for a couple seconds, then said "I'm taken" and then I was like "no problem".

I found this one extra awkward and embarrassing probably because I was hot and flustered in my biking gear, quite stiff and to top it all off I'd just got off working from a macho environment and had no female socialisation all day, so I get extra bonus points for making that approach.

I KNOW I need to go through this in order to get good with women, especially out of state and dressed in conspicuous clothing, but I don't always feel up to it.

So I deserve extra bonus points for this cringe worthy approach that I made this evening.

I salute you bro , most guys don't do this including myself.
I find it hard to do cold approach especially here in UK.
Do yoou do your approaches in Nottingham.?

Thanks bud, no I am down south myself.

But to me cold approach is the ultimate way to build confidence with women.

And you get the pick of the bunch.

You can go in there, it's efficient and they know what you want.

You've just got to be expecting that they aren't available.

I do find the more awkward ones like the one I described above don't tend to build my confidence up much compared to the ones that go well though.

I do find it hard to justify why I approached them though.

My standard line "You look incredible, I wanted to get to know you" is massively lame, but I don't know how else to explain my actions.

Approached 7 in a town I don't normally day game in.

I was there for a job interview but felt like I might as well make a day of it and fit some gaming in.

I motorcycled there and it was baking hot so I hid my helmet and trousers in the parking lot but kept my jacket and rucksack with me which made walking around a bit more cumbersome not to mention uncomfortably hot.

But given the circumstances I was proud of the approaching I did.

If the circumstances were different like if I had a car and drove there I think I would have probably gone all out and made 15+ approaches because it was a bigger town than the town I normally day game in.

I really feel like day gaming in a different town does a lot to get you out of your head because when I go to my local town I get paranoid and think that every chick who sees me is thinking "Uh oh, here comes the pick up guy".

And I'm also paranoid of re approaching chicks that I've approached before, but day gaming in a different town really takes the pressure off a lot.

My highlight was a Latvian chick who was really friendly and appreciative of the effort I made, although she did have a boyfriend but shook my hand and asked me some questions back. This one was also in a shop so extra points for that.

I also approached a chick who was with her mum but I didn't realise she was with her mum. I've done a few like that and the mums instead of being fierce like you might expect are actually much more friendly about it, they just make their excuses and drag them off.

Then a stunner walked by which was at the point where I'd already made the 5 approaches I was going to make but I thought "I'm not letting her go" so I approached her, she said she had a boyfriend and walked off.

But then I can't be sure but I think I saw her talking to someone outside a nail salon, just in the doorway, by pure coincidence I was walking past and I'm sure they must have been talking about me approaching her.

I over heard a part of their conversation, something like "Oh, he was really really cute" or something along those sorts of lines. And I was dressed in my smart clothes so it is not a stretch to think she might have thought that.

I was caught off guard because I didn't expect to see her again,, in fact I thought she walked the opposite way, so I don't know if it was actually her or not, but it was a tall blonde chick that was eye catching, but I didn't want to notice too much or it would have been awkward if she saw me just as she was chatting with someone about her encounter.

But the interaction with the stunner was quite short and she didn't seem particularly appreciative at the time. Maybe she suffered regret and that was why she was talking to the nail technician about it?

Another thing, before I approached the stunner I did do something slightly "chodish" for lack of a better word. There was this guy behind her, shorter than her and for some reason I asked him "Is she with you". I'm so embarrassed at the thought of stepping on another guy's toes, on his achievement, I guess I can relate to the struggle on a bro level much more. Needless to say, the short guy wasn't with her anyway.

So yeah, all in all, a good day. The most approaches I've made in a session in a long time.

So if anyone is having trouble getting out of their head, I recommend approaching in a different town for awhile.

Autopsy scrubs ftw :biggthumpup:

Chicks just love that creepy pathologist look, complete with face splatter guard.

Especially if it is followed up with the line, "Hi, you look incredible, I'd quite like to perform your autopsy when you die"

:biggthumpup:


But seriously,

I was in a supermarket where I don't usually game, but I saw this stunner.

It was just after work and I was in my motorcycling leathers so all stiff, unfortunately this attire makes me most self conscious.

(It's hard not to stand out being 6'1 dressed in what is essentially body armour).

I did not approach, this was compounded by the fact that I saw nappies in her shopping basket, so I figured she was in quite a deep relationship with a man, but she could have been a single parent.

But the point was not whether she was single, married or had a boyfriend, the point is to approach an find out instead of just assuming.

So by not approaching I failed my task.

But my motorcycle attire makes me feel quite uncomfortable and conspicuous.

Also my standard line of "You look incredible, I'd like to get to know you more" might be a bit full on for a closed situation such as a supermarket.

I need something more casual and less pressurising I think.

I dunno.

I need to just get more confident and, for lack of a better word, "brazen" about my work.

I don't like those awkward reactions. Those are my worst fear.

Today Brian got his ears treated. He really did not like it.


Peace,

kowalski

An interesting day.

I approached two women, one stunner. With the stunner, a duo of likely looking lads spotted her as she walked past, I overheard one of them say "Oh yeah" or something to that effect.

That spurred me to approach. She had a great figure from behind, didn't see her face until I got in front of her but she had a face to match.

The approach itself was weak, I was on my bicycle so it was hard to get her to come to a complete stop, so she didn't.

I had to awkwardly twist around to keep talking to her, so all I managed was "Can I just say" then jestered to her figure and said "wow".

She embarrassedly said "thanks" but walked on.

The second one was walking along and I got her to stop, murmured a couple of lines but then she hooked and it was when she hooked I ran out of stuff to say and cut it short.

I think I might have stumbled up on someone who was single but when the moment counted I messed it up! I've had a few like that where after they hooked I didn't want to make them uncomfortable through awkward silences so I went out of consideration, but I should learn to stay in the set and embrace the moment.

A third possible approach that I did not do was 6 chicks sat outside a bar/restaurant enjoying the sunshine and cocktails.

I hung around for 20 minutes and nearly approached the group on a couple of occasions (I got that adrenaline rush feeling that you get when you commit) but couldn't quite do it.

The outdoor tables had a few groups of other people sat relaxedly at them, and by that I mean there wasn't a background of conversation to cover any awkward moments/harsh rejections.

Eventually some likely looking lads turned up and approached them. I don't know whether they might have known them or not, but they started talking to them, went away and then came back again.

I did think of waiting for the group of chicks to leave but I figured they might have already noticed me hanging gingerly around for the past 20 minutes so I thought that would be awkward if I approached them and they'd already noticed me milling around there.

Even though I didn't approach I felt like I almost did. I really almost did.

All six were quite good looking so my plan would have been to go for the lighthearted approach and say "Hi chicks" in an over the top manner and tell them all that I loved them.

I've not approached a table full of chicks except when I went to the uni in the dining hall, but that was a noisier environment so I didn't feel such a spotlight effect.

I felt like I almost did approach that table, but having all six of them looking at me and the people at the other outside tables kinda gave me stage fright.

Something to consider for next time.

If I can just go up and say Hi and let them lead the conversation or if it falls flat then so be it, at least I expressed an interest.

Been working half of Saturday recently so haven't had a Saturday session to set me up for Sunday which doesn't help.

But I'm happy with how it's going, gonna do a taster session with my coach in London soon which will be my first formal cold approach training.

Approached a chick today in my biker gear, which I consider to make it extra hard.

Didn't make a "serious" approach, but made a "funny" one.

She seemed to be a young supervisor, no older than 22 I'd say.

She was talking with a collegue about pricing meat and I went up and got her attention, she thought I was gonna ask where something was but I decided to cut straight to the point

So "hesitated a bit and then blurted out "I love you". Her reaction was funny, she said "Awww, thanks" then just got back to the pricing meat conversation she was having with her colleague.

I was giggling to myself as I walked out, such was the hilarity of the whole situation.

So although not a serious approach, still quite an "out there" one and a nice awkward situation created.

I stayed in set for about 30 seconds whilst they talked about the meat pricing and then said "nice to meet you" to which I received a reply then went.

I had to pat myself on the back for making an out of state approach.

Then I saw this hot chick in Aldi but the sales assistant whom I've talked to before could see me so I didn't approach the Aldi one. Turns out she was foreign anyway so might have not understood my words.

Also had a quick conversation with some young girls in the chip shop about the football, but that was just a practice and they were quite rough looking anyway.

So all in all, a good effort for a work evening:biggthumpup:

Sunday, 7 approaches.

Chick 1

First one was a chick I actually went to approach before, but she was crying so instead I asked her directions.

This time I saw her sitting, went to approach her and didn't realise until I got nearer that it was the chick that was crying from last time.

This time I went through with the compliment, so I think she knew from last time what I was gonna do. Anyway, after a little while, her boyfriend showed up (I think last time she had an argument with him that's why she was crying) and she introduced me to him and he was cool with it, which was a first.

So that was a good one, maintaining calmness when it got a bit awkward as another guy appeared. The boyfriend was cool about it, I said "I was just complimenting your lady" when he came over and he took it well.

So then with them both sat down I wished them a good day and carried on with my approaching.

Chick 2

I then went to a Tesco Express where I saw two unrelated hot chicks in one go.

The first one, I hesitated as I locked my bicycle up, then ran down the road after her.

I got in front and I was like "Wait up a minute" and she was like "no I'm fine thanks". And that was the end of that one, perhaps she had anxiety.

Chick 3

And then a worse rejection yet, there was this other one, which gave me strong IOI's, looking at me as I was leaned against the storefront chilling, but then when I approached her and got in front of her she acted really standoffish, like she was expecting me to attack her:confused:

So I was in front of her and she backed away and then went to one side a bit and then the other.

Very strange, she was even more anxious than the other one.

So instead of carrying on with the compliment and asked her directions instead and got out of there sharpish.

Chick 4

After the two bad rejections in a row, I decided I would go to a different place in the town, whereby I would find some more targets.

I spotted one and stopped her in front of a coffee shop with various people sat at the tables (it was about 1200 in the day). She stopped which showed good compliance but then when I said "Wow" and gestured to her figure she was like "No thanks" and shot off straight away.

So that was three harsh rejections in a row.

I still get that shaky leg feeling after rejections which I don't like. It makes me feel like I've been assaulted so it's understandable why I don't like it.

And a chick stopping nicely and saying "I have a boyfriend" isn't what I am talking about. It's the ones that act like you are a rapist that make me feel bad.

Anyway

Chick 5

Probably the most attractive and youngest of the day, a chick dressed in tight sports gear, I was like "wait up" she stopped, I lifted my sunglasses and then said "I must get to know you more".

Then she said "I've got a boyfriend though, sorry" and I said to that "I didn't know" whilst maintaining calmness throughout.

Then she recognised someone else in town (a young male of about 17-18) and he came over just as she was saying she had a boyfriend and he was like "I'm not him" almost apologetically, so therefore becoming a temporary wing man in a way.

But that was like three nasty rejections in a row until getting a nice stop if nothing else. I could tell the chick was into it.

Chick 6

Then I continued down the road, saw two chicks walking and then said "I love you" to the hot one, she didn't stop but sarcastically said "thanks"

I am sure I did 7 but there is one I can't remember.

Anyway, I pushed through this one, was working half of Saturday so couldn't build up the momentum so to approach 7 on the Sunday was good.

And it isn't exactly a target rich environment where I am gaming either. That string of rejections after the first one made me wonder if I'd put on some chick repellent instead of sun cream!

First cold approach session since having sex with a prostitute on the Saturday and having a quick masturbation and ejaculation session on the Sunday.

Did I notice a difference in anxiety? Did I hell, I knew it was all bollocks but just wanted to see for myself. If anything I felt more relaxed and jovial when approaching after having had sex and a wank.

Anyway, five approaches, two of them milestone approaches.

First was in Primark, a solid, confident approach, she had a boyfriend but appreciated the gesture.





Second was in town, I paid the compliment and she said "Thanks!" but kept on walking. Didn't yad stop due to the last one I tried having the opposite effect.





Third (and this one was the first milestone one) was a mixed set, two chicks with a guy sat outside a highstreet pub.

I went over to the table and addressed him directly, and jokingly said "I love your girlfriends" and then gestured to each of them and said "wow".

This was all the while with other people sat at tables nearby witnessing the whole event:hihi:

He wasn't offering anything and although remaining civil, I could tell from his body language that he wasn't amused so I calmly said "nice to meet you anyway" and wished him a nice day before sauntering off down the high street.

What I couldn't figure out was how to involve the ladies in the conversation. I mean, I felt it best to address the elephant in the room head on with the guy, but once I had done that I wasn't sure how to get talking to the ladies.

Anyway I only did that because I knew they weren't both his girlfriends, so it was a way of finding out whether they were or not. But the conversation didn't go that way and I didn't want to make him angry so I took control and ended the set on my terms.





Fourth approach was me running after a chick, telling her to wait up (she didn't quite hear me correctly) but then when I complimented her as she was walking away she turned back with a smile to see me standing there (I try to make a rule of not following, as it appears needy). So that was okay, appreciated at least.





Fifth approach was a two set, I was unsure of age but I heard someone talking about "something rather something rather 21st birthday", so I figured they were around 21.

This was the second milestone in that I REapproached them.

I did not yad stop them due to my bad experience last week where the chick acted like I was gonna assault her.

Instead I opened them from the side. They did not stop the first time, so I gave them some space and then re approached again.

This was in front of a busy coffee shop and mall security by the way:biggthumpup:

The second time I reapproached I could see at least one of them smiling and blushing.

I quickly said something along the lines of "I love you both, I'd like to get to know you"

But they still didn't stop.

So I jokingly said "nice to meet you" and then closed with a "Bye!" which they replied to as well.

So although I couldn't get them to stop, I still approached and then reapproached in front of everyone. And I could tell they appreciated the reapproach as well.





So that's 5 approaches which counts towards another tick in the box and now I have far exceeded my initial goal of 50 approaches and I'm probably on more like 100 since I stopped counting individual approaches and only count successes now.

I'm starting to feel addicted to the thrill and validation once I get into state although I need to be able to approach when I'm out of state.





I'm sure I felt a lot less nervous since having sex and allowing myself to masturbate again, but when I am tired I still get inside my head too much.

Hopefully I can keep this momentum going as I don't ever want to go back to being shy of women. I just want to live in the moment and express myself instead of being in the shadows. I want these fun little interactions even if I don't get laid from it.




From what I noticed today, none of my targets felt uncomfortable or "weirded out". I put that down to being more relaxed and as a side effect being able to approach in a more natural/light hearted manner. And also having had sex the day before and a wank in the morning. And also dropping that god awful "yad stop" where you get right in front of them which seems a recipe for disaster in this day and age.



So yeah, once I get to approach on Saturdays again I'll be back approaching at full capacity:biggthumpup:

Saw three hot chicks today, was taking train to work instead of motorcycle due to unforeseen circumstances.

First one first thing in the morning after leaving train station, didn't approach, too inside my head, watched her walking off into the distance. Felt gut wrenching.

There was no one else about either.

Second one on my way back from work to the train station, wasn't sure how old as after school time but she wasn't wearing a uniform and was tall. There was also a man walking behind her whom I initially thought might have been her boyfriend but when I got closer I could see he was in his 40s so he wasn't.

By that time I was too up in my head about the whole thing anyway =/

Watched her again walk off into the distance with guy following close behind her.

Third one was in Sainsbury's back in my local town, thought she was cute, went to open but words didn't come out due to not feeling up to going direct, so we just ended up exchanging glances.

Then went back to reapproach but pretended to think she worked there as an opener and asked her where something was.

She was not impressed and said she didn't know.

Reapproached and told her I'd found the something.

Okay I didn't make it clear I fancied her but at least I spoke to her. She was the cutest I've seen all day, petite little tanned brunette thing. Early 30s maybe?

Just perfect, but I wasn't up to it, it's only Tuesday for crying out loud!



Next opportunity I get this week I'll be going in for the kill.

It's a god-awful approach if you fuck it up. You do it too close to them and it'll startle them. You give plenty of room and this doesn't happen.

I've stopped hundreds of girls this way and it's not only my personal favourite way to approach but once you get it right most girls like it a lot.

It does take them by surprise but once you've got their attention and they know what's happening it's all good.

Brian really hates the sound of my footsteps when he's on the leash sneaking through dry leaves and fallen twigs. I totally give his location away.


Peace,

kowalski

Cats hate everything

I don't think you really know any cats.

Green Room is a great movie. Yo!

Peace,

kowalski

Haha nah cats are cool. Just a lot more reserved and chill than dogs.

I'd really like to get one or the other, but I'm not at home much and it definitely wouldn't be fair on them. Nor do I even have a yard.

I haven't seen that. Looks to me like it's a bit like "Don't breath"

Dunno... I'm watching Don't Breathe right now. Will say if they are similar in a couple of hours.

I first watched Blue Ruin by the same director as Green Room. They are both very simple in situation set up but the execution is excellent.

Also, I watched the second in the Cloverfield series the other night. That was pretty great too. And, Ready Player One... which started well but really fell off as the story "progressed".


Peace,

kowalski

Half way through: It is very good but [spoiler alert] they shouldn't be being silent they should be making noise. So, I'm already not with them.


Peace,

kowalski

That was kind of wack and every plot move was telegraphed. I was about 80% on the old guy's side.


Peace,

kowalski

The plot twist with the girl he was trying to impregnate was fucked up though. I watched it in my place on a second date with a chick and as far as I recall I didn't expect that at all.

Not really and (disclaimer: I don't believe in justice) how is that not justice? They already fucked up going in there to kill and rob him and the other bitch, as far as we know, killed his daughter.

It's not worse than prison or war but both of those things are cool because they are done by governments. Fuck off.


Peace,

kowalski

All correct, but isn't it twisted as fuck to imprison a girl, raping her regularly in the hope she'll have your baby, because she accidentally killed your daughter? that's fucked up.

If I remember rightly the girl was actually pregnant, gets killed in the crossfire by the robbers, then crazy blind guy goes even more crazy because his rape baby is now dead too.

He never raped anyone. He kidnapped her, after she killed his daughter, and artificially inseminated against her will using a turkey baster. It is not clear that it was an accident that she killed her, maybe not. She hit her with her car and her parents settled out of court for $1million. Heavily implying that it wasn't a simple traffic accident. DUI?

His holding her for less than 1 year while she bears him a replacement baby, is totally fucked up... but is it more or less fucked up than the 8 -20 years she'd have spent in a US Federal prison if found guilty of killing the girl? I don't think you can compare and contrast. They're both fucked up outcomes.

Green Room is better. Simpler. You can pick sides. There are less points when the characters do dumb shit. So you can feel like maybe you could end up in their situation.

I'm not following characters with their bad decisions. After a few bad decisions, I actually hope they die. Fuck them. Bad writing / direction. These Don't Breathe kids were cunts from the first frame. Watching them die was great. Pity the girl got away.


Peace,

kowalski

Saturday, 7 approaches

3 BRUTAL rejections

I think I must have picked up the "chick repellent" instead of sun cream again:rolleyes:

Approach 1

Saw a lovely brunette with platted hair. Approached once with "I'm approaching you because I find you pretty", which was promptly ignored.

Decided to reapproach, BRUTAL rejection of "Can you just leave me alone please".

After which I made a SHARPISH exit.

Approach 2

Two set, went up to both, said "I love you and I love you" gesturing to each of them.

Heard them sarcastically say "Thank you" and then something else about seeing me doing it around town the other day and about it being "not cool".

This reaction crushed me so I got out of there as soon as possible and didn't bother to re approach or anything.



Approach 3

Saw two chicks walking, I liked the look of both, approached from the side of one saying "I'd like to get to know you".

To which she replied "No thanks" and that she was already engaged and she'd "never heard that from a random person before".

Again, I was crushed by this reaction and slowly walked off in the other direction to sniggers from passer's by.

Approach 4

Saw a foreign chick in the supermarket, said she was pretty and that I'd "like to get to know her more". She backed away at first, but then smiled and said "thank you"

But she didn't give me anything to work with to take it further and my state was in tatters after two BRUTAL rejections.

Approach 5

Weakly approached a chick with shopping bags, she literally ignored me and carried on walking. I did not reapproach, anticipating a bad reaction if I did.

Approach 6

Tesco Express approach, not many people about so felt confident, saw a chick walk in that I fancied, went straight in to her, no hovering about like I sometimes do, went in, opened with "I'd LOVE to get to know you". She said she was taken but thanked me for the compliment.

Approach 7

Best approach of the day and one of the best of my approaching career!

I think I was helped by there being no one else in the immediate vicinity when I stopped her.

I said she was pretty which she took well and said I'd love to get to know her , to which she replied "in what way".

So I committed and said "on a man to woman level" to which she responded positively.

Then she dropped the bombshell:

She was only 18!

We still had a chat and it went well.

This here is a PRIME example of what I mean when I say I WISH I was 18 again.

I really, really, REALLY wish I was 18 or even 21 or there abouts again.

But a nearly 11 year age gap isn't going to work with my baggage (or lack thereof). And the mentally dark times I've been through in my early 20s, an 18 year old doesn't need to know a person like that.

So we chatted for awhile and went out seperate ways.

Which I am not sad about.

The only thing I am sad about is my age and that's the one thing I can't change. It's a confidence boost if nothing else but I wish this was 2008 and not 2018:cry:

So yeah, glad I pushed through the brutal rejections and finished on a good note, but it was bittersweet at the end with the 18 year old girl because it just felt so weird.

I've been conscious 10 more years than her, 10 more years of memories, 10 more years of being an adult.

It's just such a mindfuck.

Theo Von is the pound for pound funniest man alive 2018.


Peace,

kowalski

Sunday, no approaches.

Still went for a walk around town, saw a couple of maybes, but didn't approach due to apathy. As I said they were "maybes".

There weren't many people around due to wind and rain anyway.

I had a look in some supermarkets, nothing about really.

But I must keep the momentum going. I really need to work on my "spur of the moment" approaches.

These are where I will meet most women day to day, mainly in the supermarket.

But it is also when I am "out of state".

Interesting post, a lot of that is contrary to what I've seen in day gaming videos though.

From what I understand, the best way to show dominant energy is to get right in front of them and stop them dead in their tracks. At least that's what all the day game videos say.

I am not needy at all.

A bad approach is better than no approach! The chick that blanked me was just rude. I even gave her another chance by reapproaching but she didn't want to know.

I find smiling weird, but I leave at least a metre of space. Often, I'll command them in a masculine way.

If that's not confident I don't know what is! I try to remain as dominating as possible.


From what I've seen on the videos and in the comment sections, the general wisdom is that going indirect is "hiding intent" and thus sets off a massive "creep alarm".

The reason I've approached her isn't to do with her shopping, I could care less about that, I've approached her because I am attracted to her on an instinctual level.

One step ahead of you bud!

One of my favourite's is "I love you" or to gesture to her and say "Wow!". Or to blatantly say "I'm approaching you because I find you quite pretty".

It's the approach that counts, not the out come!

If you don't go direct, what is your reason for approaching her!?

Again, all the material that I've read suggests that going indirect puts you on a hiding to nothing. You aren't learning to be up front with a chick at all by going indirect.

Asking for directions is the oldest trick in the book and chicks lose a lot of respect for guys that aren't masculine enough to go direct. It's the definition of creepy!

That's a waste of time because a lot of the women I approach seem to be married/engaged/in a relationship.

It hardly ever gets that far due to the above mentioned reasons.

South east.

I didn't spend any money on travel fare as I approach in my local town.

Trust me, there weren't any targets around, it was winding and pissing with rain.

The way I see it, indirect/situational is just for people who are afraid of rejection. You actually NEED rejections to make you stronger.

Also, it's a complete myth that being horny makes you more likely to approach. Read my thread on my experience with that nofap load of bollocks.

Being horny just leads to neediness in the best case or rapey vibes in the worst case.

http://www.puaforums.co.uk/general-c...nce-nofap.html


Going direct shows confidence and as you said in your previous post non confident techniques like not going direct will set off their creep alarm.

Haha so why you doing it again?

Guys, stop derailing the thread -
https://www.strangerdimensions.com/2...er-dimensions/


Peace,

kowalski

I'm just trying to get the balance right. To approach in the street if you don't go in guns blazing then you just get ignored.

So I really don't know what to do.

I'm not sure about showing empathy, I know you are not supposed to react too much to the woman's response otherwise it seems unmanly.

Well it's hard not to freak them out and at the same time get their attention. Otherwise you get too much in your head and overthink things, then try to go in a say a million things at once and start talking too fast.


Yeah I know, but I struggle to get the approach done if I overthink it too much.

I try to say it in a sort of jokey way, I might not always pull it off.


Smiling might be non threatening but surely it's also low value to smile at the chick?

Like you want her to like you if you smile.

[/quote]

Yes I watch both of them and they are the guys who I base my "vibe" on.

I've learnt a lot from their videos.


Getting laid from it seems like such a pipe dream at the moment so right now my focus is on doing it like a game.

Self amusement as they call it.

Anyway I did a couple today.

One young girl at the train station who worked at a bar until midnight (so at least I knew she was legal).

I hesitated around a fair bit until I finally approached her. I walked near her, then back away, then pretended to look at the information display, before finally approaching.

The conversation was so one sided it was beyond belief, but for some reason I kept it going until she got a phone call which I think she was relieved to get.

I opened indirect asking her which train she was getting, didn't even give her a compliment because the conversation wasn't going anywhere.

I was asking all the questions and she just wasn't interested at all, I should have made a move to get outta that one.

Then the train came and she got on.


Approach 2

An older Polish lady actually on the train (quite ballsy for me but it was quite a quiet train for a change)

This one felt much more natural, I asked her which way she was going, talked about what we each did for work, exchanged names etc, kept it going until she got off at her stop and it felt quite good and natural.

I did say Polish ladies were the prettiest, so quite a weak general compliment there, but expressed interest none the less.

This just felt like a normal and natural conversation, much better than the young girl at the train station.

Approach 3 (aborted)

Saw a younger chick in Sainsbury's when I got back to my local town, first saw her talking to one of her colleagues (she was off duty but worked there)

I did a couple walk bys but from her face she looked 16, although her body which a nice figure, so I didn't approach her.

From the brief glimpses I got of her face she looked really young, I couldn't really tell, so I didn't approach.

Maybe I should have just approached, but say what? How can I go low pressure, but direct?

Anyway, I'm really not sure whether or not I should have approached her, from behind she looked early-mid 20s, but from her face she looked young, this seems to be my biggest anxiety is age related.

It feels kinda awkward if I've just complimented a 16 or 17 year old girl on her figure, ya know?

Going out to everyone who loves improv comedy - Everything is Alive


Peace,

kowalski

Tom Torrero! Tony is so full of shit. If you don't think Torrero is creepy, you have 0 social skills and are a virgin. Don't even know or care who the others are.


Peace,

kowalski

I'm not really impressed by your tone here.

Who made you the moral police?

It's not illegal to talk to an underaged girl (even though 16+ is legal).

I've approached a 15 year old girl before and that was in front of a load of people waiting at the bus stop!

It's just a bit of fun and nothing wrong with approaching.

There is no point in having age anxiety.

Read Dan300's day game diary where he worries about approaching based on age and then realises there's nothing to worry about.

And DON'T forget, it's impossible to exactly guess a woman's age.

If you pussy out of approaching chicks who look too young that pretty much means you are limiting yourself to chicks 35+.