You're the one who's always going on about worrying about it man

You really can't tell the difference between say a 17 year old and a 34 year old? You for real?

Those particular posts were from back in 2014, and were probably more of an excuse than anything.

It's not an issue now as I've long since realised that in reality it's pretty easy to tell who's about 20+, which is completely reasonable to approach. I'm 33 and have no issue with it.

If she turns out to be 18, I'm still completely comfortable.

Part of me believes you’re harmless. An even larger part of me hopes so

youll be building pyramids next and responding in emojis

Reread tony77's hand wringing I quoted "man":rolleyes:

Pleading with me not to approach women who "look" young.

The prettiest ones always do.

You might be comfortable but that comes with experience.

As a newbie it's quite worrying having non PUA people trying to judge you for approaching women at every opportunity, let alone ones significantly younger.



Anyway, after boxing, on my cycle ride back and high on adrenaline from an insane workout, I made three approaches as dusk was falling.

Well, 2 and 1/2 maybe. Bear in mind this was as dusk was falling so I was a bit hesitant to approach in case they assumed I was a rapist.

Approach 1


Indirect asking for directions

Liked a chick's figure, got closer, grill was rough, age was older than I'd normally go for (mid 30s).

I am mentioning this one because she stopped DEAD to talk to me and I was making a point of looking into her eyes.

There was definitely some sexual tension in this one despite the boring subject matter, her face was a semi smirk throughout the interaction.

I bet she was beginning to moisten around her groin area. I wouldn't have minded to go back to her flat (it was in the rough part of town) and give her a good seeing to.

But after the brief conversation about directions I bailed because of her grill which was mostly crooked and yellow. Maybe I should have stayed in this one a bit longer and played with the prey to see how long I could keep it there.

I notice the ones that wanted me to stay normally say "byeeeeeee" after me.

Approach 2

Now this one is a PRIME example of why you should approach even if you are unsure of age.

I was pedaling up hill, saw this nice chick. Wasn't sure about her age at first.

I parked my bike next to a lamp post and ran back down the hill after her.

I opened with "I'd just like to compliment you on your figure...but I'm not sure how old you are"

To which she replied "I'm 21", which actually made me a bit more nervous because that is prime age and then I knew the game was on.

She was quite receptive and went on to ask me what I was doing and I don't think I even answered, such was my lack of state just after being surrounded by a couple dozen sweaty men.

It was such a bad approach, she was twisting her neck around to talk to me, before that I was standing in the road to give her some space but then cars came.

She said she was going to meet with some friends.

Then I was like "Oh, is that down in such and such" and she was like "Nah, just around their house"

Then I kinda froze on the spot and people where coming towards me so I closed with "Right I'd better let you go before this gets too weird".

She thanked me for letting her go and then I walked back to my bicycle somewhat confused.

I probably shoulda gone for the number but I wasn't really expecting to approach and I wasn't expecting her to be receptive.

But my learning experience from that was that I thought this woman might have been 16 when it turns out she was actually 21.

And I've had vice versa, approached a 16 year old who I thought to be early 20s, not once but twice and the second time she told me off.

Approach 3

Saw a chick walking, instructed her to "Wait!" she looked but didn't stop, so I told her anyway that "May I just say, you look splendid." To which she said "Thanks" and carried on walking.

She was probably married, late 20s I'd say.

Didn't re approach due to time of night.

Possible approach 4

A group of 4 chicks at a traffic light, it went red as I was cycling up to it so I stopped and they laughed and said "Thank you".

I laughed back but I didn't know how to approach them before they went into a restaurant.

I just feel like I'd have been ripped apart like a rag doll, they were early 30s I'd guess, quite elegant looking.

I wasn't really sure how to address the whole group.

Plus one of them was fat so I couldn't do my usual "I'd like to get to know you all better".

Possible approach 5

Early 20s nice blonde tanned curvy chick in Aldi.

There was an older couple with a trolley near her which I initially thought to be her mum and dad, but turns out they weren't.

I didn't even open her direct or in direct, I shoulda said something but after a minute she walked off to the checkout to buy her stuff and I couldn't approach her when she was in a line of people all in ear shot!

So I let that one slip.

Aldi is a really close quarters situation and I just can't bring myself to approach in that place.

But one thing I did notice was how many chicks were out on a warm summer's evening!

I'm kicking myself for letting a couple sets slip, I coulda had 5 approaches in a single Wednesday evening.

I tend to rest on my laurels after a few approaches, especially if they have been good ones as I don't want to overshadow them with bad experiences.

Roll on Saturday when I can go out and hit the streets for some focused approaching!

Look, man. You just have to get away with killing one girl. Then you can keep her on ice and cut her up, one-handed while you masturbate, consuming her bit-by-bit for the remainder of your life. If you make a pact with yourself to only get your sustenance from this one kill, you'll be dead soon and only one girl will have suffered. Then it's all gravy for the rest of humanity.

#minorityreport

That's probably the best option for your future.


Peace,

kowalski

Some of the things you say are hilarious.

I can't remember what I was going to say now, but...

Don't approach girls the way you are, you're freaking them out.

Right, I was going to be starting as a 999 call handler/dispatcher in September, unfortunately due to incidents at my previous two jobs my application has been terminated at the last minute based on my references from said previous jobs.

:argh:

I just read the email on my tablet on the train home and I sure as hell don't want to continue working on a building site.

So as you can imagine my state was thrown.

Despite this bad news, I tried two approaches

Approach 1

I saw a hot chick in Sainsbury's again, she was pushing a trolley. Initially I thought she was 16, but why would a 16 year old child be pushing a trolley if they didn't have a car?

I went to approach her and as we locked eyes I just couldn't say anything because she looked too young!

So instead we had a brief moment of sexual eye contact but I didn't say anything at all. At which point I decided to leave the store as soon as possible due to feeling extremely uncomfortable with what I had just done.

Now I think about it she was probably legal and went back to load her car up with shopping after that weird encounter.

So I missed out on a stunner because I thought she might have been underaged, despite pushing her own trolley:der:

Approach 2

Older chick, early 30s. Went up to her, she responded positively but didn't stop, so I gestured to her and said "Wow".

After which she increased the pace of her walking and ignored me.

Not sure why someone would take a compliment badly as I was GIVING value, not taking value.







So a dark day but I wish I'd gone through with the first chick in Sainsbury's but when I looked at her face I thought for a split second that she was 16 or even 15!

She was probably 18 and that is my preferred age but I can't keep passing them up at this rate, if some under 18's get caught up in my approaches then so be it!

I just don't want any repercussions from bystanders, that's my main fear. I know people like to jump to the "pedo" conclusion these days and take vigilante action.

Next time if I see a girl who's age I'm not sure of I should just do a non committal "Hi".

But in the moment it feels so wrong to even approach when they could be as young as 15 or 16 and I feel like everyone's watching me and waiting to pounce on me and kill me.

I approach them in a confident and masculine manner, which commands their attention.

Would you rather I approach like a pussy?

We'd rather you went on hunger strike till appropriate help arrived... or not, what's the difference?


Peace,

kowalski

These are the only 2 options?

Imagine calling 999 in an emergency and this whore fucking autopsy wanker answers the phone!


Peace,

kowalski

I approached a two set today, only after missing my stop and then getting off at the next stop!

I was waiting for my train back and then spotted a pair of likely looking ladies on the opposite platform.


To begin with I wasn't sure how old the girls were but I'd say late teens/early 20s. There was a blonde and a brunette, the blonde significantly prettier but the brunette more talkative and bubbly.

They were sat down so a trickier approach, plus there was another guy within earshot, but I pushed myself.


So I did, I stood right in front of them, waited for them to finish talking and then went DIRECT opening with "I've approached you two because I find you PRETTY".

When I said this, the other guy took note, I saw him look in my direction and felt he was observing me commit a sex offence.

So they looked at each other and giggled a bit, but were pleasantly receptive once I started talking.

I was only in set for about a minute, but it was pretty smooth.

They were bantering with each other in front of me which was a good sign that they were comfortable.

The interaction made me really happy.

I fancied the blonde more but the brunette one was doing more of the talking and seemed more into me, I didn't really know how to steer it back to the blonde.

In a two set situation unless one is really ugly I normally just compliment both of them so as not to pressurise one too much.

But the blonde one was the one that made me approach in the first place.

It was such a good interaction, but it was all due to them being receptive. If they weren't receptive it would have embarrassed me. But once I got the ball rolling, I really feel like I was able to take control of the interaction, as a man should.

I'm doing a course in London on Sunday with my coach so this'll give me a nice little boost.

I'm high right now and this thread is fucking gold

Went out today but later.

About 1530.

The crowds had dispersed and there weren't many chicks so didn't make any street approaches but saw a hot chick in the supermarket just before heading home.

Approached her and opened with ''I'm approaching you because I've found you pretty'' to which she smiled and said thanks but couldn't get her to stop and chat.

She ended the interaction herself with ''Hope you have a nice day''.

Gonna have a big report tomorrow after a taster session with my coach!

Today, I met up with my day gaming coach in London.

The experience was one hell of an eye opener.

I'm sure chicks are more approachable in London, but the first approach I did I was actually offered her number and to begin with didn't realise what was going on so sort of turned it down on autopilot.

Then my coach encouraged me to reapproach and get the number which I did and she provided willingly.

A hot half Indian chick I think? With an American accent.

I wasn't massively into her but did have the thought of texting her before catching the train home and going around to her place for sex, but I wasn't into her enough to want to get to know her and I didn't know how to frame it in the sense of ''Look, I want to have fun with you but don't want to get to know you''.

So maybe I'll get some advice on that before proceeding. It's actually cheaper to go to London than hire a prostitute for 1/2 an hour!

Then we had another few strong interactions, no more number offers though, but my coach had someone training to be a coach with him and we went after a couple of sets together. We had several conversations lasting 5+ minutes which doesn't usually happen for me.

What's more, it was also surprising the chicks I was getting send after were the ones I'd normally avoid approaching for fear of them being under 18.

There didn't seem to be a lot of teen girls dressed as young women like there are in my local medium sized town.


The main benefit to this was having conversation practice and also seeing a couple of example approaches. What I learnt was, when you fully commit, chicks generally respond positively. When you go in half cocked, that's when you get the weird reactions, as I noticed in a few approaches I tried after the session when I was tired, I got more worried looks than anything.

It was really nice to have the camaraderie as well instead of being out on my own.

It's definitely given me the little boost I needed to continue day gaming on the weekends.

It's weird though, a lot of the time when I approach in my nearby medium sized town, I can do everything right and chicks are still like ''u wot m8'' but in London they are a bit approachable and seem to know ''what's up'' more.

I want to keep day gaming until I relish the thrill rather than feel overcome with anxiety when I see a hot chick. It was definitely that I was able to get the chicks to stop more in London than locally.

The chicks seemed to be less socially anxious than in my town. All in all, there were quite a lot of differences, London in some ways seemed to be "easy mode" with fair less tricky situations.

Tuesday,

One situational approach

I cycled past a couple of chicks trying to get into a house with their keys getting stuck.

One skinny blonde with a curvier brunette, and it was the brunette I was after.

They had their car parked nearby, so I knew they were legal.

I stopped nearby on the path opposite and milled around for a bit deciding on whether to approach or not because I deemed the situation to be too distracting for an approach.

I cycled up the road and bumped into an acquaintance at the bus stop, so we chatted and he suggested that I go and approach after all.

They were still trying to get into the house, so I parked my bicycle and walked up to them.

As I was walking up, they approached me for help with lock, to which I agreed.

I jiggled the key in the lock a bit, moved it back and fourth and it unlocked with ease.

Up on unlocking the door, they were thrilled and thanked me a lot.

I turned to the brunette and said ''But wait, now I have to take you for a coffee:D''

Unfortunately this was met with a flat ''no''.

Which was a bit awkward, but they were still very thankful afterwards.

I wanted to cut to the chase on this one, I know I should have asked them a few questions, built comfort, etc, but I didn't want them to disappear with all their luggage into the house before I'd had the opportunity to make my intentions known.

I try to remind myself when it goes awkwardly that these rejections are good and that I need them in order to progress.

I guess I could have drawn them into a conversation but it was a work night, I wanted to get home and I'd already wasted time milling around not approaching, so I just had to get it off my chest.

If I am to ever meet women, it's situations like this that I must make the most of.

Well, I did a lot of approaches today, about 7 I believe. In my local day gaming town.

I don't actually remember all of them, which is most odd as I often do, but I will describe the ones that stick with me.

(Remembered) approach 1

A two set of model looking mid 20s. They were actually really nice, I tried running up to them, but failed, they took it well.

I tried running up a second time which they felt was funny. Then they said ''Try one more time'', but I still couldn't get them to stop, which I called out by saying ''You're not stopping'' and then laughed and said they were on important business.

So then I wished them good bye and turned around.

(Remembered) approach 2

Approached a chick, she stopped, complimented her figure, but then she walked on. So I didn't reapproach since I took her going off as a sign of disinterest.

Although she did have a positive reaction, so maybe I could have done that.

(Remembered) approach 3

Straight after approach 2, I then went to a women sat on a bench. This was my best approach of the day, I opened her standing up, so that I could gauge her reaction.

I then asked to sit down to which she agreed and we had a 10 minute chat before her sister turned up to which we chatted for a further 5 minutes.

To begin with she was confused by she quickly calmed down once I sat down.

(Remembered) approach 4

This was an interesting one, I spoke to a young girl waiting near the bus stop, as I was talking to her, her mum showed up.

Her mum was not too impressed, starting by asking ''Who are you'' to then I replied ''I'm chatting your daughter up''. I won't beat around the bush when it comes to my intentions.

She didn't take it well, telling me she already had a boyfriend and then saying that I look ''too old'' for her because her daughter was 18.

She asked my age and I told her I was 29.

She was not impressed by this and warned me off her daughter. As she and her daughter turned away I said loudly afterwards ''nice to meet you''.

What annoys me here is that she thought me at 29 was too old for an 18 year old ADULT.

This is a prime example of why I say I WISH I was 18 again, when the whole age range would have been open to me, without judgement.

So a generally successful day and I was glad about the awkwardness I encountered with the 18 year old girl, I held my frame when the battle axe mother turned up and made them walk away.

I need to think of better openers though. At the moment I'm improvising them and being as awkward as possible because it's hard to get into state.

Another thing, after the high of last weekend, when I am out on my own again, I've noticed that my approaches are Weak as Hell!

I'm not really getting in front properly anymore, I seem to have lost the bottle for it. The spot light effect is worse in my local town than in London and I still feel more so that I am doing something illegal in front of witnesses.

So I must get some more coaching on the approach.

Interesting experience in Sainsbury's

The long and short of it was that I was asked to leave the store for attempting to warm up on a shop assistant.

She was actually really rude, I said Hi, but she blanked me, so I said Hi again and she walked away.

At this point, I was seething with rage, so I decided I would hang around and make it as awkward as possible for her.

I can only imagine that she or other staff have been made aware of my approaching behaviour on previous occasions.

I decided I would make things as awkward as possible for her so I stood around the area.

She scurried back, no doubt after a little "pep talk" from her manager, so I reapproached her out of sheer rage and then she scurried off again to her superiors.

Then I was confronted by the manager and the security guard about my behaviour.

I explained that it was not illegal to make small talk with a woman I found attractive and that I didn't intend to make her uncomfortable.

I was advised not to ask personal questions (I asked for her name) anyone who's been to a supermarket will see that the collegues have name badges anyway.

SO I made my point and left.

But I'm still not done with her, when I see her again, I will say hi again and if she reacts negatively I will put in a complaint about her.

She had no reason to ignore me initially, that is NOT how you treat a customer.

I know no woman is worth getting into trouble for so I will keep my calm and chip away at her psyche every time I see her:2guns:

Lol. You were breaking the law and are lucky to have not got arrested. You are a total fuck up. Seek professional help, or kill yourself... but whichever option you choose, never talk to another human who isn't being paid to listen to you ever again.


Peace,

kowalski

No one gives a fuck who you agree with, Tony. You used Tom Terrero as an example of someone who is not creepy. You must be one creepy loser, if you aren't put off by Terrero... Dude, you haven't even noticed how fucked up this kid is who you are calling your friend.


Peace,

kowalski

You read his posts. Unless you're dumb you already know the answers to these statements.

To clarify, the first is a no. The second is a yes.

What makes you think I'm breaking any laws?

I was doing nothing more than being polite/friendly.

In fact, I've written a formal letter of complaint and handed it to the manager, who was quite understanding.

In my letter I suggested that the girl be reprimanded for her behaviour.

I have also requested to be compensated for my alarm and distress caused by the girl's behaviour in the form of vouchers.

Yes I do actually agree with you that I have some deep rooted issues to resolve, 15 years of being ignored by women being one of them!

And yes, once I get into my head I can often feel like everyone is ganging up on me, which sets a dangerous precedent which in extreme situations causes me to lash out.

I really should have walked away from this one instead of making a big deal of it but now I've written a formal letter of complaint. I got paranoid and felt that everyone in the shop had noticed my approaching behaviour.

The irony is, they do now! But at the time I was so enraged that she would treat a customer like that. I didn't even say anything remotely gamey either, for all she knew I might have wanted to know where something was.

So I don't think I'll use any of the girls in that store as warm up sets again. Obviously I'll still approach members of the public in that store but even then I'll have to be careful.

I felt more enraged that she was a store employee treating me like that than if she was a member of the public with no obligations.

I'm going to go out tomorrow in another town and try a few approaches, but I don't want to get in my head because I know that is dangerous.

What makes me think that is that I've read a lot of laws and I've read the law that your activities could easily be prosecuted under. It's called harassment. Look it up. It's a fact. You were breaking the law.

But who cares about the law. More importantly you are a creepy cunt and you are scaring people and they should be scared. You are lucky to not have got arrested, you are lucky to not have got your ass kicked, others are unlucky if you cross paths with them.

Being ignored by women is not your deep routed issue. You psychopath. Women are not ignoring you, they are avoiding you. And they are avoiding you because your so fucked up and they can sense that and they run.


Peace,

kowalski

You, are dangerous.

I echo everything k said but no further. I'm genuinely concerned for innocent people.

It is NOT harassment to approach women in supermarkets. Otherwise all others on this forum would also be breaking the law.

I am also NOT a psychopath.

I just want to get laid for free with young girls rather than shriveled up old prostitutes.

That's the same reason we're all here.

Women are anything but innocent, trust me on that, boy. You need to read "the rational male" by Rollo Tomalsi.


I think part of the reason for her being frightened is because I haven't masturbated for 3 weeks and she could smell my sexual energy which is frightening to women, but also enthralling and some of them are afraid of that feeling.

You obviously still have not read the actual law on this. I have. Therefore, only one of us can possibly know the answer to this question. And that one is kowalski.


Peace,

kowalski

That wasn't the reason, or part of the reason.

100% of the reason was because of you creeping her out.

Mike, I think you and I might be here for differing reasons...

Saw a hot chick in Aldi tonight (non staff), pretended to think she was the store assistant as I didn't feel up to going direct after the Sainsbury's incident knocked my confidence.

It was late so asked why she was up so late, then asked if she was local, then wished her goodnight.

I don't think I made it sexual enough, it just seemed too much like small talk to be anything meaningful, no teasing, no push pulling, just an exchange of a few words.

Couldn't seem to get her to invest in me, maybe if I stayed longer in the interaction, but didn't want to creep her out again.

Then I left and she left afterwards, I saw her as I was gearing up to ride off into the night.

A small and largely pointless interaction but it helps build the confidence back up.

Dude got kicked out of Sainsbury's so he's hitting on women in Aldi.

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Keep it up man. Top notch.

Update on Sainsbury's incident.

Sat down with store manager, was told that I had made several other colleagues uncomfortable by commenting on their looks.

I was advised by the store manager to "keep those thoughts in my head" and not always say what I think of a woman's looks.

This goes counter to what going direct is all about.

At some point during an interaction, you have to express interest, or they have no idea why you are talking to them and you're never going to get laid.

Needless to say, that store is not longer a viable warm up ground, as I can't use the staff there was warming up on anymore.

So if you can't even express interest in the most benign and polite way, how the HELL are you supposed to?

How is this not fake?


Peace,

kowalski

I’m at the gym this morning and there’s a strange chap who has long greasy hair and grins/gurns at the women making everyone uncomfortable.

It reminded me that I hadn’t checked the forum/this thread today...

I am Pakistani

That makes sense.

You getting laid with white girls in the UK will be damn near impossible, even if you weren't a fuckup. White British girls very rarely fuck Indians nor Chinese unless you are a gangster or some other type of badass... then you'll be able to get bitchez with hybristophilia.

Otherwise, no pussyhole for you


Peace,

kowalski

I AM GANGSTA:mad:

Nice n young:trampoline:

How's that working out for you?

I'd be pretty confident the authorities have in fact been made aware of his inappropriate behaviour and presence in Sainsbury's.