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Namadeus 07-01-2014 01:27 AM

Approach
 
Hey,

Just wanted to ask what your favourite or most successful opening strategies are. What exactly do you say to a girl?

Barney Stinson 07-01-2014 01:47 AM

"Hi, does my buzzom look big in this dress?"

Or you could try "hi, what's your name?"... that works too.


top-hat 09-01-2014 02:19 PM

I've been a bit busy with assignments to do this, but here's the latest happenings of Top-Hat.
Date: 5th January 2014
Met up with a new lad, who we were teaching how to do the stop. He was good from the get go, got 2 numbers the whole day, Blaaady beginners luck. Awesome lad though, gets me chilled out plenty of laughs.
Anyway, I started slow, probably because I had a little stomach bug. Did a load of sets most of em had boyfriends. One bird said to me after a few minute conversation, "I only gave you the light of day, because you seemed nice". Conversation is coming easier and easier every day. After hours of roaming around chatting up birds, finally got a number, had good conversation, she was a taken a back and shy and I said to her "let's start all over again, hi I'm...". She said thanks for the approach, he boyfriend just broke up with her. I took that as an opening said something funny grabbed her number. Then found out more about her.
This shows I'm slowly getting more comfortable with this as I'm getting more references.
After the number I was overwhelmed and complacent, I think I'll get past that slowly.
Date: 6th January 2014
We went out to the Ox and surrounding areas, I was knackered after going to the docs at 8 in the morning. I approached three sets and it was quite obvious I was too tired, I kept running out of things to say.
I then went to grab a red bull and sandwich. The first set back went well and worked quite well. That kept Tebbs quiet, as he thought I was complaining when I said I needed to eat. After that had some good conversation with more girls, but nothing good enough to grab their numbers.

top-hat 09-01-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Namadeus (Post 86745)
Hey,

Just wanted to ask what your favourite or most successful opening strategies are. What exactly do you say to a girl?

"Hey, you're cute"
Go do that then figure out what you need to do when you're comfortable with doing that.
Heck you can ask for the number straight after that.

Serendipity 09-01-2014 02:45 PM

Day gaming is totally exhausting. You're giving everything. Need rest, food and to know when to quit. Sounds like yiu had a good day.

top-hat 09-01-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Serendipity (Post 86813)
Day gaming is totally exhausting. You're giving everything. Need rest, food and to know when to quit. Sounds like yiu had a good day.

The average person walks 3 miles an hour, we go around for 4 hours. Which means I walk up to 12 miles(more like 10 miles) a day.

It is exhausting, lucky I have uni to keep me from tiring myself out.

Serendipity 09-01-2014 04:17 PM

A wile ago I tried just stopping girls outside kings cross station. I reckon I did about 12 in 15 minutes. All just very short interactions obviously. But there's so many passing by it's amazing. No need to wander around.

The best one was a girl who nearly jumped out of her skin as I approached her a bit too suddenly. But after she got over the shock she seemed quite pleased to be stopped. She moved into the side away from the people traffic to listen to me. But the I didn't recognise it as an opportunity at the time and didn't click into convo mode.

That's why it's so tiring I think because you have to give the same level of energy to every one. You can never tell which ones will turn out to be yes girls.

top-hat 05-02-2014 02:07 PM

The return of Top-Hat
 
I've got a few reports to write up on. I didnt want to write them initially, as 1 I was lazy and 2 I was pissed off with myself.

24th January 2014
So the first night out in a while, exams over. Time to have fun! I got back to my flat after my exam to see my roommates already ready and raring to go. The night before while I was revising decided I wanted to make vodka jelly. So ate that and had a few beers with my roommates and a couple of mates then hit up Shoreditch.
In the first bar played some table tennis then foosball. I then went out for a smoke and spoke to an Irish girl, about Irish stuff IRA stuff and other stuff. Asked her out and got her number.

In the second bar, went up for a dance, basically having a laugh. Went outside and my mates talking to some chicks, annoying them I'd say. So I went over said hello, and they were into it. My mates left and eventually, the girls and I went in. I separated from them, because I got all in my head and eventually went off to dance with them. Which yes I'm still shit at.
Two things annoyed me, 1 I didn't attempt to kiss any of them and 2 my mate kept butting in as I'm having a conversation with them. Some people just don't get it. (The next morning another friend who had his girlfriend there, told me they tried to persuade him to come back to theirs...the threesome was always potentially on the table." :rant: FACK FACK FAAAACCCKKK").

After this I went back into the club and we saw one of my roommates course buddies and a few from mine. The initial lot left back to the flat and I wanted to stay out so jumped back in the first bar with the new group. One of the birds who was my ex's mates took quite an interest with me. Which is cool only one problem think of a huge younger version of Whoopee Goldberg...aka YUCK! I was cool chatting to her (maybe enjoyed the attention meh i dunno) but at one point I was sitting down her sitting next to me throwing compliments at me putting her head on my shoulder while I was talking shit. Basically she couldnt take a hint. I did have an eye for her mate though who was not interested at all, and made that clear by hurling continuous sly comments throughout the journey home, which clearly she didnt understand I enjoy, and responded with some lovely neutral comebacks. I took them down the road to theirs gave Whoopee Goldberg a hug for being good chat and said "I like her" and walked off into the moonlight back home.

Positives
I can talk like a mofo when I'm drunk at least
Approaches come easy (also blame on liquid confidence)
Didn't go for m-m-m-monster kill (Hey look I've got standards and shit)

Negatives
Don't drink alot when I'm out, conversations become a mess and you arent present (I was in dreamland when I spoke to Irish bird)
Alot of people don't know how to talk to chicks
Stop being a pussy and go for the kill

top-hat 05-02-2014 02:36 PM

29th January 2014
Was at my su with a buddy, nothing exciting just drinking beers. Was told there is an event on there later that night. So call up my 2 buddies and drink for a bit, my mate goes to chat to some birds for me (don't ask me why), and I come in trying to be a wingman. Clearly goes shit. All my buddies leave and I see my boy from American football, him and his drama mates are chatting to some birds. My mate tells me this bird is mine, pointing a empty space previously occupied by (yes you got it) the bird I want.
I decide to be a good little boy and chat to everyone but her as I don't want to be a dick to my mate. 2 hours go by it's coming up to closing time I have finally exited the being sloshed stage of being drunk and had a light buzz. Then and there I decide, fuck it I'm talking to this bird 15 minute conversation being "bubbly" and "normal" and I grab her number. The night ends after this we say our good byes and clearly my friend is a little annoyed, but doesn't say anything. We end up going our separate ways and I go home.

Next day I text this bird and agree to meetup on Sunday, Sunday comes and I go to see family because I'm super nervous, she texts me somethings come up can we reschedule, I only read the first part in the notifications and am extremely pissed off. A few hours later, read the rest and say yeah sure Tuesday.

4th February 2014
Tuesday comes and I get about 3 numbers and 1 fb close in day game: best day yet. Later that night although thinking she was going to flake again, went on the date. She seemed very timid and shy, which was odd as I'd never experienced that before. Took her for a drink, bounced her to the bar in the last report and played ping pong, tried to get her to kiss my cheek, didnt happened but she replies "If you beat me at table tennis", I lose pretty hard then just pull her in and go for the close. We went to sit down and got into some deep conversations, couple more make outs and I take her to mine. Close the deal and think to myself "I like this one". Plan is to get her to mine again and see how it goes. Only thing I'm worried about is, I felt like including the fact she doesnt give me alot to work with because shes a standoffish and shy, I felt like I may have been touchy and needy, I let alot out on this one.

top-hat 24-02-2014 02:56 PM

I spent the weekend playing American football and a little daygame. The American football I enjoyed alot, my team which is still a rookie team still hasnt won a game, but I am definitely improving at it and since joining have gained about a stone in weight. I've set myself a target of gaining another stone and a half by the end of the year.

Right now everything is pissing me off, after seeing the Finnish girl a second time on Valentine's day she is being extremely flakey, saying she is busy. I sent her a message today saying "Right, last chance though. What you doing next monday or tuesday?". If it comes back win, if it doesnt life moves on.

This game is fucking annoying me, I'm improving everyday but have yet still to get back a date from game. Part of this frustration is also the no porn no wanking challenge going on, which I nearly got close to losing last night. After it I am still going to continue not watching porn but the latter will happen but definitely less than before.

My wing is telling me about a new theory about how women go for people the same level as you a 7 goes with a 7 an 8 goes with an 8 etc. But women have this ability to move up it. This is pissing me off because it's basically saying the highest I could get is a 7 maybe 8 at best (yes I'm putting numbers on it).

I am definitely still looking for a relationship because I am not a one night stand/friends with benefits sort of person, it's just annoying that nothing is falling into place, and I am not getting anywhere close to achieving what I want.

Serendipity 24-02-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by top-hat (Post 88013)
My wing is telling me about a new theory about how women go for people the same level as you a 7 goes with a 7 an 8 goes with an 8 etc. But women have this ability to move up it. This is pissing me off because it's basically saying the highest I could get is a 7 maybe 8 at best (yes I'm putting numbers on it).

It''s quite subjective because an 8 to somebody else might be your 10 if you are a seven. A lot of it is in the mind.

Stein 24-02-2014 06:16 PM

Yeah, don't know who came up with that but it's bullshit. People are attracted to who they're attracted to. It can be people more or less conventionally attractive than they are with practically no rhyme or reason. I've been with everything from a 10 to a 4, and it had nothing to do with where we were on some arbitrary scale relative to each other. Like Serendipity said, it's subjective. Most people don't even have a realistic conception of what number they are anyway.

This frustration is normal. It happens to everyone and it's a good thing. If you aren't getting frustrated sometimes you almost certainly aren't progressing. That kind of frustration is what gives you the mental nudge that actually moves things along and makes you better.

BroadswordWSJ 24-02-2014 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by top-hat (Post 88013)
My wing is telling me about a new theory about how women go for people the same level as you a 7 goes with a 7 an 8 goes with an 8 etc. But women have this ability to move up it. This is pissing me off because it's basically saying the highest I could get is a 7 maybe 8 at best (yes I'm putting numbers on it).

Instead of looking at it 1-10, try looking 1 or 0. 0 = You don't like her. 1= you do like her. I've been trying this lately and I'm struggling with it, but I think its a better idea.

HeroProtagonist 25-02-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by top-hat (Post 88013)
My wing is telling me about a new theory about how women go for people the same level as you a 7 goes with a 7 an 8 goes with an 8 etc. But women have this ability to move up it. This is pissing me off because it's basically saying the highest I could get is a 7 maybe 8 at best (yes I'm putting numbers on it).

There's a part in The Upside of Irrationality by Dan Ariely where he talks about people unconsciously protecting themselves from disappointment by not valuing looks if their unattractive. Telling themselves they are more concerned with character traits or they like faces with personality etc. and vice versa if you are attractive. He gives an example of the story of the fox and the grapes. A thirsty fox tries to reach some grapes cant reach them decides he didn’t want them anyway, they were probably sour. I only scanned the book so that could be all wrong. I would agree though men and women tend to end up with people of similar looks levels, at least that's the way it seems in the couples you see but there are always exceptions. Thinking like that all the time though would leave you feeling pretty negative, though it might be accurate.

Phenom 25-02-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by top-hat (Post 88013)
My wing is telling me about a new theory about how women go for people the same level as you a 7 goes with a 7 an 8 goes with an 8 etc. But women have this ability to move up it. This is pissing me off because it's basically saying the highest I could get is a 7 maybe 8 at best (yes I'm putting numbers on it).

Your wing is talking shit. Women are always looking to 'marry up' or at least achieve the most desirable male they possibly can considering their own sexual market value. This is why if you want a hot girlfriend you need to be the best possible guy you can. Go to the gym, be successful in your job and work on yourself as much as possible etc etc. The key isnt to bed a 10 its to be a 10.

Google Hypergamy. Its very real. There's a ton of good articles on it too.

I bet hypergamy has been at play in most of the cases where a guy has come on somewhere like here because he got burned by an ex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeroProtagonist (Post 88058)
There's a part in The Upside of Irrationality by Dan Ariely where he talks about people unconsciously protecting themselves from disappointment by not valuing looks if their unattractive. Telling themselves they are more concerned with character traits or they like faces with personality etc. and vice versa if you are attractive. He gives an example of the story of the fox and the grapes. A thirsty fox tries to reach some grapes cant reach them decides he didn’t want them anyway, they were probably sour. I only scanned the book so that could be all wrong. I would agree though men and women tend to end up with people of similar looks levels, at least that's the way it seems in the couples you see but there are always exceptions. Thinking like that all the time though would leave you feeling pretty negative, though it might be accurate.

So basically all that guy did was describe Cognitive Dissonance. Not sure how applicable it is to game apart from it possibly explaining peoples coping mechanisms for rejection.

Serendipity 25-02-2014 10:24 PM

I've noticed with some couples that not only do they look the same attractiveness level, they actually share similar features and look like they could be related. It's as if one of them or both had subconsciously selected someone because they looked like them.

Maybe there's a physiological reason for that which is linked to the attractiveness match thing which seems common. Another factor is people being insecure that they couldn't hold onto someone who they perceive as having more value than themself.

HeroProtagonist 25-02-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenom (Post 88059)
So basically all that guy did was describe Cognitive Dissonance. Not sure how applicable it is to game apart from it possibly explaining peoples coping mechanisms for rejection.

True and I am not presenting his points very well. Had never heard of Hypergamy before interesting stuff.

Serendipity 25-02-2014 10:32 PM

I know one guy who married a real howler. He told me he thought good looking girls were 'evil'. I think he got burned by one once.

Phenom 26-02-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serendipity (Post 88060)
I've noticed with some couples that not only do they look the same attractiveness level, they actually share similar features and look like they could be related. It's as if one of them or both had subconsciously selected someone because they looked like them.

I'd love for my ex mrs to read that statement.

top-hat 08-03-2014 09:23 AM

Nightgame Naughties
 
7th March 2014
Morning ladies and gentleman. I haven't done one of these in a while. As a couple of you've seen Sugarspin posted up a let's go oooot post, I'm a bit disappointed not more of you showed up but it's cool, i'll forgive you this time.

So we started out at Jerusalem above Oxford Street, Sugarspin and I chatted to few birds, Sugarspin is alot more energetic than me. Maybe thats just night game, who knows. None of them materialise as it's pretty much one big group for a leaving do. We chat shit, drink beers and being the student I am, I think better start saving the moolah and drink the Earth's beverage. We head off to le classique el Porterhouse and Sugarspin opens some sets I come in to wing in one of them.

Stein comes up to meet us, we chat more shit, then Stein and I head off to O'Neills. By this point I've been in my head far too long and I'm being a pussy, but still somewhat trying. Talk to a few people, a bird that Stein frequently sees shows up with a friend, more chatting. Later Stein says to me "Drink", I'm far too in my head so I agree and buy two drinks. From then on it's easier, we do a few more sets and Stein's set shows up again. We're chatting away having a laugh and I can tell the friend somewhat likes me, I go off to the loo and get a little texty message from Stein saying "she likes you". So I go up have a chat a bit longer, we go out chat more shit then I do my typical grab and pull method, then chat more shit make out a little bit more. Stein goes off home with his and whispers in my ear you can pull this.

We stick around chatting for a bit more, then take her to the bus stop. Yes bitches I'm classy...but no I have no money on my Oyster faack. So we walk up to the ATM I draw out a big phat £20 note and take her home by Taxi. we fork a bit and she's like "I'm too tired and drink", as per I'm cool, I can't seem to cum with birds on one night stands, probably the alcohol.

Note to self:
Put more money on Oyster, bitches love Oyster.
Alcohol induced pickup is a worthy investment.
Every interaction is full of awkward silences, embrace the shit out of them (they are your friends, bitches talk in them).
You can talk about your mother's vagina with girls, they love it.

May the God of game be with you.

Serendipity 08-03-2014 06:31 PM

I was checking out my oyster online account as I'll be using it a lot more soon. I see there's an option you can set up to automatically top it up when the balance drops below £10.

top-hat 17-03-2014 12:09 AM

I haven't done any approaches this week but had a few dates planned 4 to be exact.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday. 3 of which were online.

Tuesday, called me up on the night I got laid, and I told her I'd ring her back. Rang back on Sunday, she said she was working on her dissertation this month. She agreed to however meet me after work at 9. Convenient time for getting laid and the reason I wanted her first was to put me in a good mood for Wednesday. She called me at 10, whilst I was killing it on the poker table. And apologised, I said it's cool I'm playing poker and told her I'd ring her back.

Wednesday, was the Finnish bird whom out of the blue on Sunday texted me to meet up for a coffee. I've never done a coffee date before, and my conclusion is they're lame as shit, we had a date for like an hour and a half "catching up". Which is a nice way of saying: Letting her talk boring conversation, some of it was cool, most of it was fluff, plenty of awkward silences. I took her outside after I ate and made out with her. Which lightened the mood. I was however part to blame with it not being great, I think I was definitely out of touch and a little nervous.

Thursday was another internet date, after working all day on my dissertation, I went off to Westfields to meet her. I find her somewhere inside and take her out to a bar. I grab a beer for myself and she's like "I want a cranberry juice" and I'm like ffs well this isn't going to go well. We go out and the whole arrangement felt like a job interview, mainly because she just wasn't fun. She didn't stimulate me and I had to work harder than I ever wanted to. #awkwardsilences #atleastwednesdaytried. Well anyway later I do my usual walk around the mall, she goes off to get some tampons or whatever girls are using nowadays. She comes out I go for the kiss, she gives me this shitty closed mouth no fun kiss. Afterwards she relaxes a bit and I take her back to where I found her, made out with her again boom she makes effort and she's a little better.

Finally Sunday just didn't message me back to my "We still good for later"

I don't think I'll be doing anything other than my dissertation this week, will post up if anything happens otherwise.

top-hat 29-03-2014 10:41 AM

Near-hit menage a trois.
Typing this hungover over right now. Went out last night to my local, it was one of those random ones. A two drink turned lash. I really shouldn't have gone out but here I am.
Met up with a couple of mates, there was 3 birds with us the whole night. cute, somewhat cute and 5 beers 1 shot and 2 half cocktails cute.
Cute is taken by my boy, but she is chatting with me throughout the night.
The other two however are free bitches, so I use my seductive super powers to conveniently get somewhat cute to dance with me, guess what guys I can do salsa, may the pua juices flow through me. So I dance with her for quite a long time. I could've made out with her, but was probably a bit too pussy, it's been what feels like a month since I've pursued anyone. Later on I grab her again dance with her and make out with her...it's on. Afterwards at some point, the two say to me "we usually make out at half 1". So later on (way before half 1 I add) they're making out, I part ignore it (me = aloof or playing mind games - meh). Later on I get mine back start making out other comes along, starts making out too. Part of me doesnt want to make out with her, the other part says "threesome bitches". So I do some threeway ting ting. All my boys but 1 leave and So I'm pretty much left to fend for myself. We go smoke, somewhat cute and my boy go back in. And I'm left with the dilemma of making out with this chick or not, my mind says to me "Keep it the threesome warm", so I do. She goes off, my boy comes back and "gives me advice". "cute is a virgin, shes long game girl". I say cool, but my mentality changes I go from cool with making out with not cute to not. I do one last hoorah, by taking them to get food, then attempting to take them back to mine, I do, but somewhat cute books a cab, and it's there in like two minutes "fucking London".

The moral of the story is logistics and slow down the process of the booking of the cab: one extra minute could turn things around.
Part of me also didn't want this birds first time to be a threesome (I think thats what she probably wanted too, which is understandable), maybe that's my morals, or maybe an excuse.

top-hat 19-04-2014 11:34 PM

Quick little update, tried reinitiating with Girl from V day coffee date and some other night. Had a nice convo, then brought up meeting up and she told me straight. This is the second time they've told me straight. Bit annoying now that all my leads are officially gone but firstly at least she was mature about it and secondly my only exam is exactly a month from now so after that, fun, fun, fun and more fun!

Things to learn.
Don't do coffee dates, they're not my cup of tea (pardon the pun).
Don't get super high the night before a date, it may result in super creepy eye contact purely because you're trying to keep your eyes open.
Through failure comes success, the poontang is coming, note im purely writing crap to make myself feel better.

Other things to update on, I've really gotta stop smoking non-medicinal and otherwise.

Serendipity 20-04-2014 09:29 AM

Your right dude. Coffee dates suck. Pretty sure a woman invented that idea.

I'll have free time soon and when you're clear of the exam we'll go fishing.

dan300 21-04-2014 11:26 AM

I think it would be awesome for the girls first time to be a threesome.

Not many people could say they popped their cherry with 2 other people instead of one. She benefits from it too, she gets to try out a boy AND a girl in one go, thus discovering her sexuality :clapclap:

top-hat 03-06-2014 04:26 PM

I've been away from game for about 2 months finishing off my studies. I'd have preferred not to take a break the time I did, as I was really gaining momentum. Nevertheless, I am a free bitch for the next 2 months, which I'll probably spend in London and abroad before work starts in August.

I was meant to start two weeks ago but I took some time out due to a family problem occurring, which is still in the process of being fixed.

On Friday and Saturday it was obvious how out of shape I was. On Friday, the session merely revolved around the thought of getting back into things, small baby steps. The old AA chestnut was somewhat an issue, but approaches were done. On Saturday, I scrapped warmup sets (wheres x place) and went direct. Due to not having my boy with me to bust balls and talk craic with, the session mainly involved walking around barely talking for 3 hours. Which in my opinion is rather boring. There was one approach out of 5 which stood out, a nice half irish half UAE indie chick, she had a boyfriend but realistically my conversation was shite and my mood was nervous.

I think after a handful of sessions I'll be on point again.

Serendipity 03-06-2014 11:08 PM

You wanted to get back into it and by the sounds of it you're going the right way about it.

top-hat 07-06-2014 11:44 PM

I wrote an update for the last few days, but tab was accidentally closed. Basically
Thursday got a number, Friday got a number, I'm nearly getting back to it. Date tomorrow from Thursday and she is fine as wine even though she was wearing sunglasses, was a mish trying to get to her and my conversation was piss poor. Friday was a big improvement conversationally.

Friday night, got into a scuffle with one of my roommates friends. I was in the right, and the lad did not have the ability to control his anger. Later on at a bar he apologized, and I wanted to get the last hurrah so I took the beers he gave me and pointed at the bar maid.
"Chat to her she's cute" I said
He starts chatting to her and gets rejected. And leaves me standing there. I start chatting to the barmaid and said.
"I know my friend tried to pick you up....bla bla bla can I have your number you're cute".
She responds with "I've got a boyfriend"
I reply "No you don't" or something like that.
She gives me her number, I go back to my boys, with the lad there and say "Got her number".

Okay I know what you're saying, petty as fuck. But he's been a prick alot, ruined situations with birds, been obnoxious etc. I just needed that bit of validation and that "fuck you".

So yeah 3 numbers and a date. Excerrent.

Serendipity 08-06-2014 03:45 AM

It was great winging you. I saw your number close on that girl with the sunglasses on Thursday. She was very fit I thought and I managed to get a snap of that moment on my phone. I'll show ya it.

Forget about the assholes. You don't need to impress your friends.

You are doing fine dude.

top-hat 14-06-2014 10:20 AM

So last night, manz got laid. It's not too much to write up about because it was literally the easiest lay in the world. But I'll write a back story and drama so you boys don't feel like you came for nothing.

I go to the zoo in the evening they've got some festivities going on (beer, bitches, baboons). In the evening my boy calls me up saying he wants to have a mad night out, so I go back to mine and my roommate is playing beer pong: so the festivities begin.

We get pretty drunk and headout looking for a place to go. It's like 1:30 am when we walk past Catch. We need to find some peeps so we go past find them and then go back. At this point it's 2:09 and the guy says no go. As we're planning where to go, I see two lads from my course outside the bar talking to two chicks. I walk over just to say hello and end up inviting them all back to mine.

Throughout the whole journey back this one petite Singaporean/Philippine chick is like constantly at my side like a dog. We get to my gate and everyone but the girl leaves becauseshe wants to come in "to use the toilet". She uses the toilet then we go upstairs to my room and the deed is done. At one of the breaks she asks my name and tells me shes 35...well thats something to tick off the list.

Later on after a bit of forking, she goes super weird and tells me she has stds, she's clearly saying it to just get a reaction. At this point I stop all the advances she makes and tell her "you're 35 years old, surely you have the maturity to not say that shit". She responds "but it's fun". I thought they were supposed to get more mature as they get older. She then admits that she was making it up to teach me a lesson for having sex with so many people...I ask her how many times she thinks I've had sex she says 20.

I am now finding an open clinic. Fucking weirdo.

top-hat 06-07-2014 10:59 PM

I've been feeling a little shitty recently, university has ended, I've finally got my grades and I'm back home in Luton for a month. I'm only posting here because at the moment I've not really got anyone to confide in. I'm away from my wing(who's seeing a cute Canadian number), and my home friends aren't lads I'd talk about this to.

Firstly all it feels like is everyone is in relationships, all my best mates at home are with birds, and my best mates from uni are aswell. And as much as I am happy for them, it's not the same like they were when they were single.

This is probably adding to the feeling of loneliness I'm having, I've not done a single approach for about 3 weeks and as much as I'm now using my time to relax, get to the gym, get back on my BMX, play video games and see my mates, I'm getting this awful feeling of emptiness in my stomach. Yesterday, I went out with my boys and there was this extremely hot girl, usually I'd chat to anyone, but I'm scared, I'm scared about failing, I'm scared about the pikeys in the pub starting and saying "thats my bird" and I'm scared about making a fool of myself in front of my friends. This feels so out of character, but is also enlightening as it is showing me that I rely alot on my recent endeavours with girls, and it's stupid! Why can't I be my fun charismatic self. I even feel like Serendipity's going to shame me because I'm not doing any approaches.

Now I know what most of you'll say is fuck kid stop being a pussy and yeah I agree. So I've probably answered for myself, but at least it feels good to put it down somewhere.

BroadswordWSJ 07-07-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by top-hat (Post 90929)
I've been feeling a little shitty recently, university has ended, I've finally got my grades and I'm back home in Luton for a month. I'm only posting here because at the moment I've not really got anyone to confide in. I'm away from my wing(who's seeing a cute Canadian number), and my home friends aren't lads I'd talk about this to.

Firstly all it feels like is everyone is in relationships, all my best mates at home are with birds, and my best mates from uni are aswell. And as much as I am happy for them, it's not the same like they were when they were single.

This is probably adding to the feeling of loneliness I'm having, I've not done a single approach for about 3 weeks and as much as I'm now using my time to relax, get to the gym, get back on my BMX, play video games and see my mates, I'm getting this awful feeling of emptiness in my stomach. Yesterday, I went out with my boys and there was this extremely hot girl, usually I'd chat to anyone, but I'm scared, I'm scared about failing, I'm scared about the pikeys in the pub starting and saying "thats my bird" and I'm scared about making a fool of myself in front of my friends. This feels so out of character, but is also enlightening as it is showing me that I rely alot on my recent endeavours with girls, and it's stupid! Why can't I be my fun charismatic self. I even feel like Serendipity's going to shame me because I'm not doing any approaches.

Now I know what most of you'll say is fuck kid stop being a pussy and yeah I agree. So I've probably answered for myself, but at least it feels good to put it down somewhere.

I have some thoughts on this I'll post later as I'm too busy at work just now.

PostScript 07-07-2014 07:15 AM

Couple things spring to mind.

The first thing I noticed was the 3 week hiatus kinda sounded like avoidance (a psychological term meaning a way of coping with an anxiety or stressor), which makes me wonder if you were just a bit stressed out by exams/approaching/going back home…can you think of what it might be that's bothering you?

The other thing was that I wonder if you felt OK gaming at uni but that for some reason you feel a sense of shame or something for doing it on home turf?

The whole uni thing can be weird, it was a long time ago for me but you do get snapped from one reality to another when you go back home.

PS

top-hat 07-07-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PostScript (Post 90943)
Couple things spring to mind.

The first thing I noticed was the 3 week hiatus kinda sounded like avoidance (a psychological term meaning a way of coping with an anxiety or stressor), which makes me wonder if you were just a bit stressed out by exams/approaching/going back home…can you think of what it might be that's bothering you?

The other thing was that I wonder if you felt OK gaming at uni but that for some reason you feel a sense of shame or something for doing it on home turf?

The whole uni thing can be weird, it was a long time ago for me but you do get snapped from one reality to another when you go back home.

PS

I don't think the 3 weeks was avoidance. The first week maybe, the second week was pretty much partying and chilling with friends whilst we waited for the tenancy to end. And the last week I've been home, it's pretty normal to not see a girl till the weekend, I live in a village on the outskirts of Luton, everyone is working, so I'm usually stuck at home.

My game hasn't been in full swing for a while, I've had exams and a dissertation to deal with for 3 months prior to the 3 weeks downtime. The exams are something I've been extremely worried and it is quite clear that my results weren't coming fast enough. A part of myself is also extremely worried as I don't know where my life is heading. I am meant to start a 12 week training for a job in London bridge, but will be commuting in. This is however something which may or may not happen, as I missed my expected grade.

Gaming whilst at uni was never an issue, like actively anyway. It was the way I'd get laid the most (I think because I'm more relaxed when not it clubby pickup mode). I wouldn't however do alot of approaches. It was more girls that seemed to float in.

In uni the group dynamic is very different from Luton. In Luton everyone expects me to be quiet, sort of speak when spoken to and not actively a part of conversations. The group has changed alot and I am adapting(God that sounds pua weird) and feel like I sort of need to do some completely out of the ordinary(in their eyes anyway).

daleinthedark 07-07-2014 12:04 PM

Top-Hat it sounds like you have made leaps ad bounds in your self improvement and it seems you a perceived connection with your old behaviour and your old town.

I think it is important that you continue to be the cool, new you, so going where you want and doing what you want. There was a link to the site I think Stein or Phenom shared the other day but on there I found this article which talks about our 3 different faces - the face we see, the face we try to show and the face others see - give it a read

Just remember that your friends have changed too, the only difference is because they haven't seen you and the changes you have made, they expect you to be the same as you were when you last hung out. Make sure you don't fall into the trap of allowing their expectations to dictate your actions and the way you now are

tebbs 17-07-2014 12:05 PM

hello,

Not posted in ages. I think TOPHAT youll be feeling crappy for a variety of reasons, and you know how I like to see in black and white.

First up Luton is a terrible town to game in, I lived there for 3 misrable years. Its a dumb and a shithole, full of people that doent speak English and noone in your ethnic group.

Its an impossible place to work with. Hence why I moved, what makes it worse is your buddies up there are not wings.

2.Uni is over and now im afriad the real world is upon you, not only do you now have to work for a living, also youll find how people you know from school not only have they moved in different social circles, they will have moved in with girlfriends etc etc.

Ive always said when you go out at night you will see alot of 18-24 (aka students) and then youll see alot of 30+ (on a special night out, ie birthday's, hen do's, or a night out they oranised to catch up as they dont go out often) the reason you dont see 25-30 year olds is quite basically thats when they move in with the first long term boyfriends.

Youve had a good run mate, you've had a fantasic year if you look at your results, your one of the most postive people i know, and im a grumpy old cunt !!!

Youll be fine, you know you can crash at mine whenever you want, keep up the day game youll be fine. But its the big wide world now of work and life in general. Being a student is like being a holiday rep, its a fantasy world of niceness and parties.

Oh and shes from Kent, shes not a bloody Canadian !!!

top-hat 13-08-2014 09:54 AM

Hello my wonderful fellows, I've been back in London, where the grass like the woman to tourist ratio is non existent. However, it's definitely better than my beloved Luton. I went out twice in the last 5 days.

The first day was nothing other than dog shite, it being the first nice day back from England's torrential rain episode, all the tourists were out, and it being summer alot of residents were on holiday. However I did attempt chat to a few girls, due to the scarcity, the lovely aa kicked in numerous times.

The second day was alot better, I was out with my boy who since stealing him from the clasps of the strange nerds of saturday sarge, he has turned into quite the playboy. Anyway, it couldn't of gone any better. First approach in good chat and I get the number and it looks a good lead, if I hadn't messed it up(wait for it). What usually happens after I get numbers is I get complacent and do nothing, which was in full effect whilst I was teaching my boy's brother. The brother was being a big puss for a long time, but eventually he started doing some. After he started I also did some and here comes the second number, a nice little brunette number walks past me. I went up to her and she said she had to go off to work but I pointed her to come back. Told her I'd take her number and we'd grab a drink, then told her to run to work as she'd be late*.
I didn't do many after maybe 1 or 2. At the end of the day we sat down to check our numbers against Whatsapp(Tip 1). At this point I send my numbers a nice little message saying Hey name cool meeting you...what does super duper pua top-cunt do...I copy and paste one message to both girls without changing the name on the first girl (better conversation). I manage to save myself somewhat, but it will flake. Howver the second girl, who was way hotter came back and said she'd grab a cuppa joe today.

Here's another tip from a computer nerd: type in the phone number on facebook, their name will appear and their photos. DO NOT add them AND DO NOT look into them. This is just to remind you what they look like...I feel like I just gave power to some rapey mother fuckers.

*Please note redemption this was done in a a humorous manner, not a rapey "I have no social skills" manner.

top-hat 09-12-2014 03:42 PM

It's been a while since I've posted. Alot has changed since my last post.

Figuring out some sort of path I want to take now that university is over, has been one of the main reasons I've been quite depressed. My general plan is to stick around at my parents for the next year or two and either:
a) Stay at my job, if I'm happy.
b) Get a job in London or a city abroad.
c) Go back to university
d) Go travelling for an undecided amount of time, then a), b) or c)
Nothing is set in stone except for saving a good portion of my savings for at least a year.
As I work in Cambridge I have considered moving there, but I'm not sure if this beats saving a good amount of money. I'm only young so can decide in a year or two.

Gamewise I have really been improving:
Numbers are getting back to me more.
Text game is improving.
Conversations aren't at the peak where they were before but they are alot more fun than before.
I have promised myself to really work on my game for the next 6 months. I've always had university in the way before. So now I don't really have an excuse to go as far as logistics allow me.

The only problems I've had are with my wing. He broke up with his ex and although has been quite consistent with going out he's also been consistently arguing with me.

PostScript 10-12-2014 08:59 AM

Great that your "game" is improving man.

If I was your age again I would absolutely look to get a job in a city abroad, the broadening experience of new cultures, new people, standing on your own two feet in a foreign land…it'll all make you stronger long term.


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