being a 'nice guy' i think of as being a sure way to not get same night lay from a girl, i'll be honest i'm not in the game to fuk loads of girls on a one night stand. i'm looking for relationships and yea a one night stand every now and again, but i think that alot of pu techniques concentrate on snl only and short term sexual relationships, thats fine for alot of guys but i want a bit more. anyway got this from pua dharam looks to be right up my alley, NICE GUY GAME (E-BOOK) | PUA Training Blog | The Most Active Pick Up Artist Seduction Blog on the Planet

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looks good will have to read it through

Good stuff, feels a lot more natural to me than most pua material.

Nice guy game isn't really game from what I've seen. To me it seems to be good looking guys walking up to women, over-complementing them and essentially begging for their number. I've only seen a couple of examples though.

If you want same day lays, I think your best bet is going direct. Soul (Love Systems) is usually able to fcuk a girl within an hour or two by just being direct, confident and honest with her. Mystery's courtship process takes 7 hours. Go figure.

Soul is the man.

I doubt this very much although Im happy to be proven wrong...! Yes admittedly, he is a dude.

He certainly is.


I'm going mostly from his classic writings, but honestly mate, the amount of same day lays this guy apparently gets is ridiculous. I completely believe it tbh; just watching the guy work it's clear he's a fcuking social genius!

I have strong feelings on the whole "nice guy" game. I've been the "nice guy" for the last 10 years, and whilst it meant I've made friends with and had good relationships with lots of girls. Unfortunately, it got me absolutely nowhere game-wise. In fact, the occasional pulls I've had have been due to me being a bit of a douche, disregarding girls' feelings and just going for it.

It's a sad fact about life, not just picking up women, but nice guys really do finish last. It's not even as if this is the only way to get yourself into a proper relationship. I'm firmly of the belief that the stuff we learn in this elaborate game of ours can be used for any level of relationship at all. Suppose you go out and get a number, maybe a kiss close, using whatever method. At the end of the day you've initiated a relationship with someone, and it's up to you what frame you apply to it and from there where the relationship goes. As if to ram this point home, just read some posts on the field reports section and you'll see as often as not, PUAs come home with a couple of guys' numbers.
Hell, even the Apocalypse opener can result in a proper relationship. If you have enough about you and are confident in your own convictions, you can turn any interaction on a night out into whatever you want to get from it.

As a bit of an afterthought, it's probably worth mentioning that every single time I've been fucked over by a girl (and it's happened a fair few times in the past), I've played the nice guy game and it's failed me.

That's ultimately the reason I (and I daresay a few others) are here.

Bit of a grey area this. I don't see anything wrong with being a 'nice guy', where problems arise and you get trampled all over is when you become a weak and feeble guy who is a push-over.

I consider myself a nice guy, this serves me better than being a dick, allowing me to form friendships, establish good working relationships with colleagues and generally be thought of in a positive manner.

When you hear women talking about their ideal guy, many will say they are looking for a 'nice guy'. By this they mean they want someone like a fireman, a guy who is selfless, brave, has good values, takes care of others yet has a backbone and a masculine essence.

also, this obviously depends on the girl. And your calibration to her.

I think as you get better you start noticing naturally when you can speed things up. I get the impression Mystery can't do this. So he is not good for SNLs.

Girl the other week - makeout and foreplay in the bar within 30 minutes (tried to sex it up in the gardens, but to no avail), sex 1-2 hours later. Girl this week - continual messages, meetups etc...

I have done pure nice guy game in the past. With in texts and such. But it pisses me off slightly, so have gone more direct recently.

Calibration machines baby