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Part 1 - Conversation Strategy - Never have an awkward silence again -
01-03-2011, 01:36 PM
I’ve been thinking about what I’ve done in general to be successful quite quickly and I’ve been doing a few things naturally. I’ve been reading a lot and thinking about what I do, just so I can break it down so anyone can read it and maybe take something from this.
To get good at anything, where the possibilities are endless, you need to have a goal. For example to get a girlfriend or to have F-buddy’s or whatever you like. I think what all these techniques boil down to, with all the stuff you can learn and read, is to being able to formulate a relationship out of thin air or enrich your current relationships. The goals for me whilst I’m formulating a relationship are simple: • Have Fun • Get to know what shapes them as a person • Find out what their beliefs • Knowing whom this person is, their core identity • Get signals to find out how long it will take, and find the fastest way (intuitively) to create a strong and positive relationship • To experience something new • Stepping into the unknown and find out what is truly possible The evidence that I’m creating a relationship with a girl is: • A contrast, Before & After • Changes in Body Language • Stay in the dialogue, even when resistance comes. • Them telling me personal things The general operation (besides what I’ve learnt from Sasha) as in things I do: • Break through barriers of resistance or take the path of least resistance • They have a sparkle or twinkly in their eyes • Body language towards mine will be like a mirror – I’ll test this by pacing and leading • Progressing from quite general questions (which I consider conversation fishing) to quite specific questions that kind of hit the nail on the head, as in it creates a connection with them • Eye Contact, it’s very important, but only if it’s natural (i.e. not staring) • Associate into her experiences – visually imagine her experience • Staying quiet whilst she talks – as in listening for topics to talk about and also to find out more about her (incase she’s a nutter) • Watch for her becoming more interested, IOI’s and all that shite One thing I find very useful is in using, especially because I am solely doing daygame at the moment, for interactions in the street and also on date is a general map of conversation or Pattern, which is: Statement * Question * Question * Statement and so on And just repeating this and using the statements to lead and the questions to get the girl you’re interested in to pace you, in a sense. Also by asking her questions you’re finding out things about her, also you’re not just talking at her. Now you need to fill in the gaps of that particular strategy, with Mastery Subjects, in place of the Statements. Mastery Subjects are topics of conversation that you feel you are comfortable talking about. They are generally about what you are interested in and you can convey a passion for. Some simple examples of subjects could be sports, the nightclub scene, travelling, art, fashion, technology, psychology etc. What a mastery subject does is convey that you have a passion in that particular subject and also you can generate attraction within the statements. She may not be able to relate completely to the particular subject but she can relate to the passionate experience, as in the same sort of emotional feeling but with something else. Now you need to fill in the other gaps of this strategy, with Questions. To not make it an interview it’s best to elicit her values through open-ended questions. Eliciting values is very crucial but actually very easy to actually do. Ask her questions that involve her revealing her identity, Values and beliefs. This will create a lot of attraction and connection with you. Most guys don’t do this when they are on a date, well unless you’ve been on a ton of them. The idea behind eliciting her values is that you get her to open up and feel that you are actually interested in them as a person. Some simple ways to elicit her values are to ask questions like: What she wants? What she Likes? What she thinks she needs in life? What she thinks she deserves out of life? What she had in the past that she wants to repeat? What makes her happy? What makes her feel sexy? But also I recommend something called the question game, which I accredit Sasha for, and it’s really cool to play with a girl because it stimulates conversation (especially when your on a date) the link to the rules is The Question Game | PUA, Pick up artist, Sasha offering PUA training | Sasha PUA I hope this is useful and comment and add stuff that you think is beneficial to the different things I’ve mentioned. I’ll post some more things up that I find useful     
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01-03-2011, 01:59 PM
My Voyage to develop a social Persona and not be such a standoffish ignorant mofo was conversation.... it beccame an interview, a sure fire question round.
bang, bang bang never an akward silence I fucked up.....fail I put silences in there now, its not just about me showing an interest and holding ehr attention-- a conversation is 2 people getting to know each other, its a 2 way exchange the silences promt her to 'Invest' into the exchange. Is she refuses to Invest, fire her off as its a bad deal!
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02-03-2011, 03:27 PM
No No I'm an ex-student of Sasha's, look me up on FB, http://www.facebook.com/bellua , I run part of a property development company in just outside of Newbury in Berkshire, if anyone has heard of the most boring town in Britain, also I've got an MA in Applied Psychology and I did my dissertation on Body Language, Relationships and Conversation, So I thought it would be cool to post some shit on this forum to see what you guys think! I was on another forum but it kept crashing all the time so just thought to join this one.
Refl3x thanks for the input, I thought that sometimes I've been on dates and few times when it was really awkward so I thought about how to structure a conversation and I thought that using Sasha's question game is always good fun. I pumped this Lebanese girl a few nights ago and we played the question game and it lead to me finding out that she likes to have sex in public and when she picks her boyfriend up from Euston she's naked with a trench coat on and they fuck in public toilets and trains and everywhere. She is my ideal woman ha ha. But Also I've been thinking what other guys tips on going on actual dates, like are there any goals you set before you go on a date, what kind of things do you mainly experience when your date goes well (what kind of signs she gives you, what makes you know to go that step further etc) and also what specific things do you do or techniques you use on the date to make them successful? I'm really interested to here because I've only been doing this for about 6ish weeks and I've had really good success but I want to get better!
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02-03-2011, 03:28 PM
Oh shit there's something wrong with my FB link, if you want to add me send me a PM and I'll give you my name and also my location so you can find me! Would be cool to go out and do a daygame sarge with anyone!
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02-03-2011, 09:06 PM
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Ahhh fun! Don't take it personally Sasha, we just love calling people out on bullshit.
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02-03-2011, 11:30 PM
how can anyone think this much about the way convo works?? if ur thinkin this much about what ur sayin... surely ur not enjoyin it!!
who gives a fuck if she likes what u say! infact, fuck ur nonsense... i guarantee do what u just said to the letter... and i, with the same girl just be me!! im gettin laid 1st... why are u even botherin with questions! like u care... u just wanna fuck her. this thread, retarded <the end>
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02-03-2011, 11:34 PM
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does that mean i know him??
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