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Joe_Fresh · **Sexual Attraction Explained In-depth -** 02-02-2011, 12:20 PM

Found this on another forum looks pretty interesting.

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Sexual Attraction Explained In-depth

The way that most PUAs think of attraction nowadays is ineffective. Since the concept of attraction is inherently subjective, I'm not saying that the way most PUAs think of attraction is wrong; it just makes the process of seduction unnecessarily difficult. More often than not, they structure their beliefs about attraction in a way that makes seduction an uphill battle rather than a thrilling free fall into a night of passionate fucking. Rather than letting yourself struggle with a puzzle of useless routines and DHV stories, allow me to offer an alternative way to think about attraction.

When it comes to attraction, a PUA's focus should be on sexually framing every thread of an interaction with a woman he's interested in so that the woman feels aroused with SEXUAL attraction. All the other things about attraction that you've heard - preselection, humor, wealth, and other commonly known DHVs - act mainly as logistical assistance that allows a woman to backwards rationalize her feelings of sexual attraction for a man. They aren't actually part of the main force that pushes the seduction forward.

In other words, if you're not thinking of attraction as a purely sexual feeling of desire, you're doing it wrong. Practicing pickup from the community's currently conventional value-based view of attraction leads to a big roadblock that aspiring PUAs constantly run into: the awkward switch from a "fun and social" vibe to a sexual vibe.

For example, if a PUA is trying to "build attraction" by communicating to a woman that they are a leader of men, the vibe of the interaction becomes based on the perception of social value. Contrary to popular belief in the seduction community, social value does not directly arouse a woman. It only gives her a "this guy is acceptable to associate with" message from her social programming. Somewhere along the way this message has the potential to translate into "this guy is acceptable to have sex with," but it is by no means triggering an instinctual horny desire for her to spread her legs and enthusiastically invite you in. It's not directly eliciting emotions within her that make her want to grab you and ride your cock until the both of you pass out from pleasure.

Lets put things into perspective. Have you ever met a woman who wasn't strikingly attractive to you, but your guys friends thought she was really really hot? You take a second look at her after you hear what your boys think of her, and suddenly she seems a bit more attractive than before. I don't know about you, but this happens to me a lot. Compare this situation to a time you met a woman who was so hot and sexy to you that you instantly felt a surge of lust and pure desire pulsating through your body and mind. When a PUA is trying to "build attraction" through things like commonly promoted DHVs and other "provider" cues such as being a leader of men, the woman may feel a slight growth in attraction for him just like how any guy would feel about that woman his friends approve of. However, this becomes a slow and strenuous process if the goal is simply sex. Wouldn't you rather have the woman feel the same way you're feeling when you see that incredibly sexy woman of your dreams for the first time?

Before we move on, let's address one limiting belief that may have popped up in your head just now. Do looks actually matter? My answer to that question may shock you...

Yes. Looks matter. However, your looks will only be able to help you if you are well-groomed and fashionable. If you think you're inherently ugly, you're fucking wrong. Why am I saying that looks matter, then?

Evolution has made it so that the genetic pool of the human race seeks to be heterogeneous. If every human being had the same genes and looked completely alike as a "perfect 10," that would open up a Pandora's box of problems for our species's survival. Ultimately, we'd become fatally vulnerable to natural mutations due to the decreased ability to adapt from a lack of genetic diversity. Species that have a homogeneous gene pool (as opposed to a heterogeneous one like ours) are actually asexual. That means they don't have sex with other members of their species. They reproduce offspring independently.

For our species to remain sexual and genetically heterogeneous, our sexual attraction is rooted in the principle of opposites attracting. Combining two opposites is the best way to produce something completely new. Make a shit ton of new stuff and you'll end up with a really fucking heterogeneous pool of stuff.

Since opposites attract, you will be very sexually attracted to a woman with genes opposite to yours. This is why you typically feel grossed out when you imagine having sex with members of your own family (unless you're Beschatten). This also means that the woman of your dreams will be sexually attracted to you since you have genes that are opposite to hers.

Just like Gunwitch teaches, as long as you are sarging women that you are genuinely attracted to on a physical/sexual level, they will much more likely to be genuinely attracted to you in the same way. A big problem that a lot of guys trying to learn pickup face is that they struggle through sarges because they are trying to seduce the socially defined "hottie" instead of listening to their gut-level attraction.

Proper grooming and shit like that allows you to express your genetic attractiveness more fully. Socially "uncool" fashion and poor hygiene will stifle the signal of your genes' polar pull. That's why having a cool style is highly beneficial.

OK, now that we know that looks matter. We also know that whatever looks we were born with will only help us get what we want (having sex with women we are genuinely sexually attracted to). After we've made our genes more presentable through fashion and grooming, how do we play the game according to this sexually focused definition of attraction?

I break the system of increasing sexual attraction down into three main tools that you can use:
1. Sexual State Projection
2. Sexual Framing
3. Sexual Tension

Note that these tools aren't in any particular order. For the most part, the game is not linear. It is mostly circular.

Sexual State Projection

Projecting Sexual State is pretty much something straight out of the Gunwitch Method. Go read it here: [link]

Sexual Framing

Sexual Framing is a big one. I define sexual framing as anything that gets the woman thinking about having sex with you, whether it be of conscious thought or of subconscious storage of thought.

How do you get a woman to think about having sex with you? There are many ways to do so. One day I observed a "natural" casually interacting with a group of people I was a part of. I was shocked at some of the crudely sexual remarks that came out of his mouth, but my shock would quickly subside when I noticed how congruent and unapologetic he was with his frame. I justified his behavior in my head, "That's just who he is. He must just be a really sexually aware guy." Besides, he wasn't being confrontational or creepy or anything like that. He seemed like he was just being his own damn self, completely comfortable in his own skin.

What he was doing was essentially giving everyone ample opportunity to squeeze our imaginations and produce sexual thoughts by using sexually charged language. It was then I realized that I must take more risks by engaging in potentially socially inappropriate behavior that clearly steers an interaction toward a sexual direction. For example:

HB: So I was shopping the other day (something completely unrelated to sex)
Chief: What? Let's have sex? Well, OK then.
HB: ...
Chief: Oh wait, that's not what you said. It's not a bad idea, though.
HB: Huh?
Chief: OK OK You're convincing me. Anyways, what were you saying about shopping?
HB: *giggle giggle giggle*

Sexual Framing can be as simple or as advanced as you need it to be. It can be as simple as using the word "sexy" when describing yourself or something about her, or as advanced as the "Grand Master Style" where you calibrate extremely vulgar phrases with a "just kidding." It can be as simple as using the old "That's what she said" line when you get an opportunity to use it, or as advanced as a trance-hijacking NLP pattern.

Amongst the many schools of the pickup arts I've delved into, I also studied Speed Seduction. So, of course I can think of numerous ways to sexually frame an interaction using NLP. One great way I've found to do this is to simply speak in ways that presuppose that we're already lovers.

All in all you should keep this in mind when it comes to Sexual Framing: As long as you are somehow directly giving her the mental image of her having sex with you, you're doing it right.

Sexual Tension

Building Sexual Tension gives you that feeling of needing closure. The more of it you build, the more you'll want to fuck each others brains out. And, the greater the mutual desire for sex, the greater the likelihood of sex actually happening. It'll also make sex a lot more enjoyable for both of you.

Tension is something that's created when two opposing forces are combined somehow. To apply tension to sexual attraction, you must combine a force that's moving the sexual vibe forward and a force that actually holds the sexual vibe back. One of the most common ways to do this is to evoke sexual arousal within yourself and the woman while talking about something that's completely nonsexual.

Because of the way in which these techniques use opposing forces in harmony, any application of the push/pull dynamic, the concept of 2-steps-forward-1-step-back, and cat string theory to the sexual vibe of an interaction will build Sexual Tension.

Another technique that builds Sexual Tension is triangular gazing. While you use triangular gazing, you are communicating the fact that you are thinking about kissing her. However, since this desire isn't verbalized, you end up building sexual tension.

An extreme example of building Sexual Tension is Ciaran's Shock and Awe technique. While using Shock and Awe you are verbally and physically expressing your pure desire but demonstrating an attempt to suppress your desire at the same time. Read about it here: [link]

Adopting the mentality of sexual attraction that I have just outlined for you will increase your success rate in field dramatically. It certainly has for me. Many know this structure of game as "Fool's Mate." I just call it my standard game. Those who call this "Fool's Mate" are just following a structure of game that's slow and unnecessarily tedious.

If you want to have sex, why not focus on the sexual aspects of an interaction from the get-go?

Oh, and by the way... Combining this shit with an effective procedure of kino escalation and Vin DiCarlo's "Objection Game" is basically the complete model of my entire Outer Game. Now go out and get laid.

thoughts?

Nameless · 02-02-2011, 01:21 PM

That's pretty interesting, especially if, like me, you're shit at transitioning to a sexual vibe.
And, it let met to read Ciaran's Shock and Awe, which is probably worth giving a try

scuba boy · 03-02-2011, 06:11 AM

good post some interesting points!
thanks for passing it on.

Phil · 03-02-2011, 07:37 AM

gonna give this a read after work

rocknrolla · 03-02-2011, 04:28 PM

This is all well and good. Sinn talks about this in the seduction roadmap. Only question I have to ask would be, do you just want a long list of one night stands? If so then use this material.
If not then you need dhv's to ensure against fools mate. Women need to rationalise why they slept with you if you want to do it more than once.

As far as the NLP goes I don't have a problem as long as the intention when using it comes from the right place. If you are using NLP to try and manipulate someone you will only have good short term results. People can always tell when they're being manipulated.
Look at Richard Bandler and John Grinder who started NLP. Bandler teaches about manipulation where as Grinder teaches about pure intent. Look at pictures of them and you will see that Bandler looks a bit like gollum where as Grinder looks good for his age.

Hey I believe in Karma and you guys may not but there has to be something in that lol.

If it helps you then great but I think there are better models out there. It may be long winded but I think it will give better long term results. It's not just girls that get reputations.
We may all want to be as good with women as possible but it is important to realise that if women know you're a player you're at the very least gonna come up against more resistance if not be blown out entirely.

Hope this is helpful

Rock n roll

Midas touch · 07-02-2011, 01:28 PM

yeah, like that time that I wrestled a grizzly bear to the ground.