True, it's not about having everything your way. That's a power trip. What's important is meeting the needs of what both of you need. Take care of her, not dictate her for no reason. Do that, and she'll be wet for you.

Anyone notice she's obviously a dyke. Who listens to a lesbo talk about man-to-woman stuff.

I'd say that if a woman is of high enough value, entering into a relationship where you comprimise in order to make that relationship work is an extension of one's masculinity. Having that kind of relationship with a woman of high enough value is something worthy of defining one's masculinity and is therefore fulfilling to a man. Where a lot of men trip up is that they are tricked into this kind of set-up with a woman of lower value than they are worthy of, simply for the sake of appeasing that woman, which comes from a position of scarcity/neediness. It's this supplication which has led women of low value (ie bitches, whales and hippocrocapigs) to believe they rule the roost and can expect more from men who are of far higher value than they (the women) are worth.

I know it's chauvinist, but we're the chaps here. We rule the roost, we decide what's going on and what woman is good enough for us, not the other way round. That's just the way it is; it's how we're hard-wired. When women try to stick their oar in, men don't like it and we retreat to our last bastions of masculinity. Some of us say "no, fuck you" and join the pick up community. Some go on 4chan and go completely fucking mental. Unfortunately, most just hand over their balls and give in to the hope that giving women what they want will somehow keep everyone happy and everyone will win. It won't. It will comprimise their inherent values as men, remove their reasons for having masculinity and lead to the collapse of the male to female attraction and thus relationship. No woman wants to be with a man who doubts his own masculinity, so in the case of a marriage where the man has married the woman to supplicate her demands, will lead to a collapse.

And Kowalski, her assertion of 80% or whatever was only a small part of her point - that women deem men to be unattractive and are too demanding. I am satisfied that her reasoning behind male psychology is sound. I'm also satisfied, through anecdotal evidence admittedly, that women are too demanding of men in terms of attractiveness/value in any case. I've noticed that women of average value and women of high value tend to reasonably expect to attract the same standard of man. Even proper fatties whose only hope lies in men who have had 8 or more pints comment that boys who are way out of their league aren't attractive enough. I feel like shaking them and saying "look love, you're plain, a bit dumpy and average to talk to. You're not going to get a model so stop complaining about not being swept off your feet".

Are you 12?

Well the first thing is, learn to recognise the signs. Know when you are dealing with a dysfunctional impossible woman with fucked up values and faulty social and cultural conditioning, fuck her (if you want/must) but always have the self confidence and assertivness to walk away afterwards.

That's half the battle.

Once the woman you are dating isn't a dysfunctional unreasonable cunt everything else becomes alot easier (trust me).

And then it's not about compromise it's about the COMPLEMENTRY dynamic of your masculine qualities and her femmine qualities that you and your (sane sexy/ femmine /respectful/ respectable non-headcase) girlfriend bring to the relationship table and the way in which that connection enriches and advances both your lives.

height is mathematical, attraction isnt

Great answer Joker and that really answers a lot of what i've been thinking but in the same way it still boils down to the luck of the draw of whether you get a girl where you have complementry dynamics.

Sure you can take your time, see what's out there and take a calculated, educated and intuitive decision with whom you pursue a relationship with but I guess it still comes down to a maybe it will work maybe it won't.

At least you have the choice and opportunity to choose whether to end up there rather than settle or feel forced into it...

Someones grumpy

Well it's only really luck up to a point. I mean you CHOOSE who you decide to get into a serious relationship with right? Developing the ability to meet and attract new women regularly eliminates the need to 'stick' with one fate happens to have 'dealt' you in the event that she starts behaving like an emotionally dysfunctional cunt...

You might get a 'bad egg' from the supermarket right? That's 'bad luck'. But deciding to go ahead eat it anyway? Well that's plain stupid.