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Default 17-02-2010, 01:17 PM

I believe there is something too this, the secret is kinda glamourized so it will sell a lot of copys but if anyone is interested in this stuff just look into noetic science its pretty much the next step on from quantum physics and trys to prove or disprove any theories relating to the mind and its affect on ones surroundings


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Default 17-02-2010, 03:12 PM

Very bold claims, noetic science doesn't seem very scientific to me more like “New Age” repackaged.
Quantum physics has tangible results I don't see much peer review or scientific method in noetic science.


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Default 17-02-2010, 06:54 PM

i have 100 percent belief in the secret and what it teaches
they teach the exact same concept as almost all religions
which is ask and you will recieve
the secret is just a unglamorfied version of alot of other religious teaching which have often been misinterpreted by the metaphors that blanket them

just like flicksters quote
“The mind is everything. What you think you become.”-Buddha
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Default 17-02-2010, 07:51 PM

Every one has a valid point on this, this is uncharted territory (at least in our age) and unless we explore new seas we will not find new lands.
Im quite a spiritual person incase you haven't allready guessed lol

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Default 18-02-2010, 10:34 AM

Thats another valid point as in you have a point of view that just like many sciences and theorys can neither fully disprove or fully prove that this stuff is real, it is simply another point of veiw from your own perception....it's up to the person who has that veiw to choose if it is valid or not it's also up to the reader of that veiw to choose likewise, I choose to see it as valid as in opposing theories just like apposing forces can work in a common denominator just like matter and antimatter, born from the same energy source but behave in different patterns from oneanother but can not exsist alone.


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Default 18-02-2010, 11:43 AM

If everything is valid then all debate, advice, logic, reason ends. You need some kind of structure to explain things (provided by the scientific method) or me saying "apple monkey banana jizz bitch" is a valid response to your post or me just mashing on a keyboard is too.

Granted it's up to the individual to choose a point of view but it doesn't mean I have to agree and accept it.

I can't see how they work together at all. With our current understanding of science they don't fit together, you may say "ah but that's our current understanding!" but noetics hasn't proved anything there are no tangible results it's just a random theory with as much validity as any other random unprovable theory in the world like scientology or david icke's lizard men.

Science can exist with out noetics so I don't see how your antimatter analogy works, people didn't discover noetics and come to the conclusion that this explains how science works. Science is a method, a way of thought and reason, it doesn't need a positron from noetics to exist it is not a physical entity.

You should have a look at James Randi Educational Foundation
he offers a million dollar prize to people to prove psychics, paranormal activity etc but no-ones claimed it.

You might wonder why i'm against spirituality and new age concepts, well first I don't think the core beliefs are true (some of the teachings are though) I think this kind of thing can be pretty dangerous in certain circumstances, for example homeopathic treatments for Aids and malaria.
Doctors condemn homeopathic treatments for Aids and malaria - Times Online


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Default 18-02-2010, 11:46 AM

Oh and YouTube - The Chaser's War on Everything - The Secret


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Default 18-02-2010, 04:48 PM

Ok ok ive been educated i dont know what valid meens lol

But still i choose to believe in the advances of Spirrituality and Science combined

and my anti matter remark was not a conclusion it was an example that opposites can exist in the same universe, ok I know antimatter reacts negatively with matter so not the best of examples but still I hope you get my point..


like i said peace


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Default 18-02-2010, 07:31 PM

you are your only problem and yourself is the only answer

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Default 19-02-2010, 09:08 AM

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.


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