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Default 18-05-2011, 09:22 AM

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How well will that fare as a response?
Is that really all Aristotle had on this? Seems very weak to me, politically manipulative and of it's time even. Surely there is a higher or deeper source of right and wrong that just fitting in with the herd? Doesn't seem to me to address the issue at all but maybe I'm not getting something.

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Default 18-05-2011, 10:15 AM

The truth is a powerful thing, the truth conquers all
people only hide the truth when they are hiding negative underhand things about themselves or hiding weakness.
Ask yourself what is your own truth-- maybe to expose your own truth is to display everything that is bad or weak about yourself that way you cannot help but face it and resolve it to become a better person?


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The truth is, there is no spoon
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Default 18-05-2011, 03:50 PM

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The truth is a powerful thing, the truth conquers all
people only hide the truth when they are hiding negative underhand things about themselves or hiding weakness.
Ask yourself what is your own truth-- maybe to expose your own truth is to display everything that is bad or weak about yourself that way you cannot help but face it and resolve it to become a better person?
Acceptance of your own flaws and weaknesses and a lack of fear for showing them -s in itself a mark of a strong person.
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Default 18-05-2011, 08:36 PM

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How do you feel about ethics and morals in life in general, not just PUA?

What are your own standards you live to...

Did you go through any particular journey or discovery to realise these ethics?
Sounds like someone has a paper to write on Ethics and Morals...

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Default 18-05-2011, 11:49 PM

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Sounds like someone has a paper to write on Ethics and Morals...

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Nope I study electrical/electronic engineering at college, I work in an internal sales office, I was just curious on like, the rules you guys live by, and how you realised your own morals ethics...
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Default 19-05-2011, 05:51 AM

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This is me not Aristotle, I'm extrapolating using my own intuitions and ideas.

You seem to be taking the discussion in a meta-ethical direction, to discuss, maybe, if morals are objective or subjective. Try the intro and first chapter of this book J. L. Mackie - Ethics~ Inventing Right and Wrong (0140135588, 1991) (if my memory serves me he gives all his arguments concisely in those early pages), it is a nice easy read that gives a good account of the argument for subjectivity.


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Leave it out, you realise I ask you as you're like our resident "pick up/philosophy wiki" and I can't be arsed to actually do the reading myself! I suppose I do seek an over-arching ethical position. I mean, it must be subjective as what flies in a little African tribe ain't gonna fly in London, but then again if you zoom out to a world view it doesn't seem right. The more i think about it, these are just concepts that exist within ourselves not in objective reality so how can it be objective...it can't. Still leaves me with the German Nazi sympathiser problem though, how can that be ethical or moral to have gone along with it, the whole not fighting culture being moral/ethical bit, that's what throws me off.

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Default 19-05-2011, 07:27 PM

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Triangulation
So I'm assuming the triangulation aspect is meant to illustrate that in seeing from wider or other perspectives, the basis for making moral/ethical decisions becomes increasingly objective. If so, that sounds logical. Am I projecting an idealised or perhaps conditioned personal view of what the ordinary German citizen should have felt about what was going on, onto said German? Is that why I'm stuck? Man this is getting circular, happy to knock it on the head if you like!

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