Name: Ryan
Age: 18
Location: Manchester
Occupation: Apprentice
PUA Experience: currently N/A

aspiring DJ/Producer

looking for weekend day & night game wings in Manchester, or for someone with good game to coach me (for a price obviously)

I want to get this aspect of my life sorted now so I can bang hella bitches in my 20's

Peace

Welcome. Loads of working class mancs on here. What have you read about Pua? Best off forgetting 90% of whatever it is. Get a feel for the vibe and ethos on here (minus the flame wars, trolls and bullying of the mentally ill), meet the people and go from there. PROCEED WITH CAUTION with any material, video or guru.

But yeah get some fundamentals down and meet people off of here. Very anti pua on here.

Fundamentalso are like approaching, being normal, closing, knowing how to isolate and get her home, date ideas etc

Thanks for the welcome

Ive looked at all the different PUAs i could find on YT, some of them seem to be on a massive ego trip.

Ive read "How to become an alpha male" by John Alexander. Ive also torrented pimp, shift & daygame so i know the theory behind it all just need to get out there.

There is no theory. This is not a driving test. I've been meaning to work on a "how to" guide on this forum with everyone on here contributing to it but cba.

Try this. And I'm dead serious:

-Drop everything you've read. Stop reading or watching pua for a very long time.

-Go out and make conversations and interactions with women, even guys.

- Be normal, be cool.

-If it goes well either A)ask them on a date, or if its a night out B) get them alone from their friends and just spend the night with them and then re-join with their friends until you go back to yours or hers place.

- If you get a date then the date is basically an evening of avoiding talking about why you are really there (to bang) and getting her back to yours.

- Another point which is harder to explain and other posters could do way better on writing about. It is about being 'direct' in the way you act but also as if the idea of having sex is COMPLETELY out of your mind.

Example: You may be touching her a lot and dancing, you may have even kissed but when she mentions about sex or going back to yours, you're like "Is that all you think about? let's have a normal conversation for one second".

I can't speak for anyone else but basically every lay I ever had was always borderline platonic right up until we got back to mine. But in a way it was completely the opposite. This is what I mean by 'normal', you're not trying to be dirty or talk sexy or smooth etc.


About 95% of all my close-calls were where I ended up trying to sex talk, escalate too quick, be a bit rapey etc which was always ingrained in my head. If I figured this out right at the beginning I would have had a lay count in the very high double figures rather than the low double figures. I always thought the more sexual and escalating you were the better. Its almost the opposite.

Rant over.

Thank you for the advice. I will avoid watching any pua stuff for a while & thanks Jaz for the welcome

I already have a lot of social interactions with guys and girls when i'm out, I can hold a girls interest quite well but don't really escalate. I don't go out a lot but when i do it's to events and I always chat to lots of girls and even get opened quite a bit.
I always have good "game" in terms of saying what i want, being self amused, and being very direct but I think thats just due to the unnatural amounts of serotonin in my brain.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have to be on something to interact with people & I can hold a girl's interest sober as well and I have had girls interested in me but never ones i'm attracted to(I should probably lower my standards).

Once again thanks for the advice, I will definitely take it on board.