hi guys i have no problems with the approach , or openers
but after the opener the convo goes dead and i end up just asking stupid generic questions....

any help what to do when the convo goes dead?

Pedro this seems to be a fairly problematic area for a few aspiring PUAs. Fortunately this is an area where I tend to do well, so I'll try and impart some knowledge to you.

Firstly, I'd recommend reading Juggler Method. It's available on most torrent sites (not that I'd ever condone filesharing ), or if you can't find a torrent just drop me a PM and I'll send you the PDF. This guy is fantastic for not only getting fun, interesting conversation going, but also at using it to zone in on his goals. So read him, he's good!

Secondly, some tips. The most important thing to understand is that, as a cool, confident, awesome guy, you can talk about whatever you like. There's a post on here (I think it's in Seduction Tips and Techniques) about coming out with something completely random and turning it into an open ended question. One of the examples is:

"I've got a gigantic Monopoly board. Do you want to be the top hat or the racing car?"

Other things you can do are to launch into fun stories. Like Juggler says, the content of these stories matters very little (Juggler famously claims to be able to pick up women by reading out his grocery list), it's more the way you tell them; with passion and self belief and sincerity.

I'd also point out that, slightly further down the conversational line, this natural pause in a conversation can be a good make or break moment. If the conversation reaches a natural end, an absolute givaway of an IOI is if the girl tries to reinitiate conversation. Obviously, couple this with a some others and you're ready to escalate and start some smooth talkin'!

Hope this helps dude.

For me personally I don't have this problem as I've had verbal diarrhoea for as long as I can remember.
I think the best advice mate, is for you just to treat it like you were talkin to a friend (within reason!). I mean, when was the last time you scripted a conversation with someone you were familiar with? The more natural the conversation goes, the more comfort you are going to build with a woman.

Another option, which I found VERY helpful when starting out, is to learn a few routines for when it goes quiet,, like the types Mystery talkes about in the MM.

Either way, you should just immerse youself in as many interractions as possible, and you will find that it is quite easy to keep conversation flowing, and that it is not at all a daunting prospect.

The more you do it the better you shall get!

Ritz

I used to have big problems with this but It will get easier as you get more confidence and the more you don't care what people think.
Then you just blurt out whatever comes into your head, if you think "what will she think if I say this" then it's probably going to come across as forced.

That's why I think canned stuff works, not because of the content (although there is some merit to it) but because it comes with a seal of approval from someone who is good and has a track record of being successful. So therefore you don't feel as conscious or "think will this work?" because you know it works because a pickup artist is recommending it.

You can just bypass this though by having a strong sense of self and not seeking approval from other people. Also I've noticed when I just ramble random shit if the girl's my kind of girl she'll join in and be whisked away to my ace random world of stuff, if she's boring and dull it'll be like pulling teeth but even then you can still get somewhere.

Nice one, I knew Kowalski would come up with the goods on this one!

Scarlet Yohansen looks so hot in that RSD piece!

Oh and the article's pretty good too

cheers guys, im not posting much at the moment but im making loads of notes from all your field reports and looking at all the past threads

i couldnt agree more with kowaski, as when i first started doing this i would open and struggle to move the convo past the opener. I realised i was thinking way to much about what i need todo, and ended up losing near on all sets. But i worked out before i go out i just clear my head and everything you learn't will come out, with out you realizing.

But when i used to run out of stuff pebbles and little fun games are always good. To merge it i always use "ok for shits and giggles" wheather i go on to saying give me ur hands or what ever the game is it doesnt matter just seems to help with drying up convos. but what kowaski was bang on.

You seem to be the man kowaski in here, ur the man i will be pm in the furture lol

An important point to note is that it's better to be totally comfortable and relaxed with nothing to say, than to think you need to fill the spaces with random jabber.
I too have found myself racking my brains for something to say in the past though!

Yep! I fully admit that this was one of the biggest fears I had, and still sometimes have, when talking to women. Just yesterday I was sat next to a smoking hot indian girl in college, and we were having a nice little chat about whatever, and it just came to a point where I had nothing else to say! Simple as! So I just turned round and started to get on with my work, and after no more than a few seconds she restarted the convo with a question about where I lived or something, and bang it was back on!
So because she could clearly see that I was completely relaxed with the silence and wasn't really trying at all to keep her attention, she naturally felt attracted to me. Awesome - if only I had known what I know now all them years ago!