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Default 16-05-2012, 09:13 PM

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I just wish you'd both shut the fuck up, because I keep foolishly clicking on this thread each time it's updated wondering if, actually...something interesting might be happening.
orite dickhead! no need for the offensive. think its past ur bed time


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Default 16-05-2012, 10:29 PM

Haha! Yeah it was a little harsh, but it's seriously boring the crap out of me (and probably many others).
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Default 16-05-2012, 10:36 PM

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Haha! Yeah it was a little harsh, but it's seriously boring the crap out of me (and probably many others).
ye well imagine how stressed i got sayin the same shit over and over. i think he must be foreign coz he doesn't seem to grasp enrish.


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Default 16-05-2012, 10:36 PM

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LOOK!!!! IM NOT SAYING AS A CONVO PEICE U CANT TALK ABOUT IT, IM JUST SAYING THAT WISHING TO THE UNIVERSE WONT GET RESULTS

is it just me?? is anyone here getting him, is it me, i really want someone to explain to me if im not explaining myself clearly coz im pretty sure im sayin the same shit over and over & he just isnt listening
SORRY PHIL .I WAS JUST WINDING U UP....DON'T REALLY CARE WHO BELIEVE IN WHAT BUT JUST WONTED TO SEE YOUR REACTION IF I PUSH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE...SORRY AGAIN ...IT WAS QUITE ENTERTAINING ...not anymore
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Default 16-05-2012, 10:37 PM

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IT WAS QUITE ENTERTAINING .
u need to get out more


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Default 17-05-2012, 11:48 AM

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u need to get out more
The 1int3rnet$ is the new out Phil


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Default 17-05-2012, 03:35 PM

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The 1int3rnet$ is the new out Phil
hehe.. yeah man u r right ...it is a really new out ...I come here to chat with u guys who I will probably never see in the real life , we discussing those unpredictable creatures called women, giving each other some kind of advices and almost everyone is happy ...accept for PHIL whose problem about the book spread onto 4 pages so far ...
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Default 17-05-2012, 05:04 PM

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Also, a theory of everything is not possible.


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Whoa there, hold the phone Kowalski. I'd dispute this. Accepting that a Theory of Everything is not possible is another way of saying it is unknowable. That's another way of saying that it is infinitely complex and thus unnatural. That's another way of saying it was "created" by a being of supernatural credentials, ie God. Are you really saying that?

This probably has nothing to do with the actual discussion, I just can't let such a bold claim in the world of physics go unchallenged. If the universe is an organic entity that conforms to rules of some sort or another, it is knowable. The only way it will not conform to rules of some sort is if its fabric of being is interrupted by a supernatural rulemaker that dictates a certain rule should be broken, ie God. And I don't think that's realistic to be honest. The laws of supersymmetry suggest that a theory of everything is out there somewhere, we just haven't discovered it yet. Maybe it requires another dimension in mathematics, maybe more computing power, maybe both. Either way the universe has evolved according to some strict uncontravenable laws and thus its behaviour is predicable. It's just a matter of time before we work out the formula.


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Default 18-05-2012, 07:47 AM

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Accepting that a Theory of Everything is not possible is another way of saying it is unknowable. That's another way of saying that it is infinitely complex and thus unnatural. That's another way of saying it was "created" by a being of supernatural credentials, ie God. Are you really saying that?
Blanca, you've got that the wrong way round. IF 'God' existed then yes, there would be a theory of everything. One that's been around for thousands of years...God. That's what God is, a theory, an attempt at making everything containable and understandable while inducing fear into those who (at the time) did not understand the concept of science to maintain law, order and hope in society.

The very fact that physicists have to create AN ENTIRE NEW DIMENSION everytime they discover a particle, or something unexplained would lead me to believe a theory, or formula, would now have to contain the near, and likely infinite variations for the laws of physics in all known dimensions. The current estimated number of dimensions is 13 at my last physics lesson, and 99.99% of us can only get our puny brains around the concept of 4 (including Time).

Research some quantum physics, that will fuck with you. You will not understand it (no one does, that's why it was invented - an explanation of the unexplained accepted by the scientific community because no one else can explain it either) and then try and get your head round (in theory) the potentially horrendous formula that would contain every aspect of everything, ever, with the link to explain how it all becomes relevant to one another.

So now, ask yourself (and this is VERY hypothetical) if, just if, we had such a formula, it would quite possibly be infinite in length, and incomprehensible by everyone. So why would anyone want to put themselves through that kind of hell, when they'd never get their head around it anyway?

For those who don't agree, I'll give you the closest thing we have to a formula of everything. The most famous formula of all time (for said reason):

E-MC2
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Default 18-05-2012, 04:51 PM

well, if you want to talk philosophy...

a 'theory' of everything *is* possible, but a theory by definition is between a hypothesis and a principle. A theory works until it breaks down. You can have theories for anything, but you've gotta test them. If you can't compute the theory though, it breaks down into a new hypothesis, or if it holds up enough over time that the general consensus is that it's true, then it becomes a principle.
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