Forgot to reply to this bit - anyway, I am actually meeting a female friend for a meal (not through a site), and would love to know how to take things further.

Even if I don't get sex with her/a CouchSurfing girl, I'm sure I will enjoy my time with them anyway, and make a new friend as I did with the woman on the continent.

Fair point, I did say it, but still don't like them!

Look, all I want is to get some help with a situation I have/will be in. I'm not bothered about other ways of picking up women. That's something I can, and will work on at home (I am actually working on this), but I will be on holiday. I want to spend time enjoying the holiday too, not picking up women.

I've thought about ways that would be easiest for me, and this way (which I have used before) seems to be the best way for me. That being the case, do you know of ways that I can turn a coffee meeting into sex?

Coffee meeting -> sex

You need to extract her to a venue of your choice. So you need a reason to get her back. She will most likely not go by just offering her sex. This would make her feel a slut. Show her your cool drawings at your place, or something on your laptop, or even just to show her your cool place and you will cook her a cool dinner..

You need to establish kino with her ASAP to make sure you're not just "friends". Start touching her. Incorporate sex into the conversation at some point. Compliment her and let her know you are attracted to her in some way.

Then get back to the room and its ON

daleinthedark's turning a date into sex guide:

Find girl to go out with. Dont ask her our, tell here you are going out but by all means take her opinion into account when choosing activity/place and time. Don't do this arrogantly and lets pretend she loves italian cuisine
"We have to go to this great Italian I know at the weekend, how is saturday for you?"
That way you are telling her when and where you are going but in a way that sounds less like a command.

On the date. Tease her like you are kids (if you remember flirting at high school) use excuses to touch her and push her. If she has described it as a date do not be afraid to just slip your hand into hers and hold it. If you would like to hold hands, over the table remark about her rings and just take her hand (with the ring on!), toy with the ring for a bit and then just leave her hand with yours, hold eye contact (important) then carry on like it never happened.

After the meal/date take her for a walk. Continue to hold hands then at a convenient point just turn her into you and just kiss her outright. I personally like to walk along the beach, mess around dancing then whilst spinning her, turn her into me and plant 1 on her lips.

After that have a laugh, kiss some more, walk and dance some more then head back to 1 of your places to drop whoever off first. Once there ensure you are invited in using a line like "oh i have to see the [cat/guitar/imprisoned family members] you were telling me about." or if you are confident enough "so are you going to invite me in?" Once in continue kissing her but this time be more passionate. I like to push girls up against the wall and go fast and hard with a kiss, hands all over her, she reciprocates, clothing is removed, use your imagination and try not to wipe it on the curtains.

This may or may not work for you. Currently this has an 80% success rate for me for me. It only lets me down when girls are on (and she usually relieves me via other methods) or logistics such as parents being in stop play...

Thanks to both of you for your replies. Just have a few questions/comments:

Agree with you on this, just saying sex would make her feel like a slut. The only problem is that I'll be staying in a hotel, and I can't think of any reasons why she should come back there, unless you can think of any...

I didn't know what this is so had to look it up! The problem is that I'm not a touchy-feely type of person. I assume that touching a woman makes it automatically sexual. I'm going to have to read a lot more into this.

Again this is something that tends to come out all wrong (i.e. too full-on) when I do. If you can suggest some good things to say that would really help.

As I will be in a strange city, it might be easier for her to take the lead. That doesn't mean if she picks somewhere really expensive we'll go...

Again, as I will be staying in a hotel in the centre. Therefore I'll be the one to leave first (yes, we'll walk together there, as she wouldn't want to leave someone in a strange city), so I need a reason/way to get her up to my room.

Thanks again for your replies. I know I have stuff to read up on...

In the past few days, I've not come up with a definite, but I have come up with some ideas, and more questions so I want to see what you think:

I have looked up some of the best topics to discuss on dates, so I will use them.

Do you think I should put on a really full-on English accent like Hugh Grant's or just talk normally (I'm not common!)?

I have a work colleague who I tease quite a lot (but is married). I'm going to use some of the techniques I use with her on the coffee dates.

Not sure if this would work, but if we ask talk about relationships, say something like she's too attractive for me, and how would I attract a woman like her. I would then jokingly follow those steps.

I might try linking arms - I know this could make me come across more of a friend, and will probably only work on someone older, but it could work at the end. (I'm still researching kino, but this is an idea to start with.)

I might try and get her back to the hotel bar after the restaurant. I still can't think of any reasons to get her back to the room, do you know of any?

Let me know what you think so far.

I think, that you are overthinking everything and will ruin this as soon as you change your voice tonality.

CHILL OUTTTTTT

I think this sounds really mechanical.

Try to go to a bar instead of a restaurant - having a table between you restricts physicality.

Just have a normal conversation - talk about something that is passionate to you. 'Best topics to discuss on dates' sounds like an attempt to impress, not express.

Sit close to her, look her in the eye whilst talking....if the vibe is there you will find yourself naturally touching her anyway.

IF you reach a stage where you think you can take her back to the hotel, no reason needed - just say 'adventure time' and walk to the hotel. Engage with logical questions (e.g. 'where are we going') in one of 2 ways - (1) completely ignoring it and talking about something like the weather, or (2) tell her straight, e.g. 'we're going to have sex'.

I hope this is useful - ultimately, remember that she is not the last woman on earth!

I dont know much tbh man.But i read a thread recently Jaz wrote about a year ago about honesty http://www.puaforum.co.uk/seduction-...-%3D-poon.html
Ive just been trying that.I met up with a chick this weekend gone and first thing i did was look her up and down and said "U look hot today" then started to walk off saying come on then,through out the time i was with her i said exactly what i thought (a departure from the usual of analising what i was going to say to see if she would agree or not ie in my head) and although i fluffed the kino and a few other bits,it was a good laugh....for a change
So my suggestion just say what you think try not to worry about techniques 2 much if you suck you suck just try to have fun,if you blow her out you do simple as.
Ive accepted im currently blowing everything out going and will continue to till i start to figure stuff out a bit more.

I can see how this would come across, but it was only a list of ideas to try, not to do every time!

Prefer restaurants as I like my food, but I am open to bars. I think I'm just going to have to think a bit more about this bit.

It's just I read somewhere about the best topics to talk about on dates. However, I like your idea better! It will also mean I'm a lot more comfortable.

Will try and do this.

This is the exact advice I wanted to hear! Not really into reading body language, so not sure of what some good ways to tell would be, but I can always just give it a go.

Thanks for this - it was very useful. Good point too!